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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:14 PM Mar 2014

Why do you think Bernie Sanders voted for the Affordable Care Act?

I'm going with option two.

What about you?


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Why do you think Bernie Sanders voted for the Affordable Care Act? (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 OP
DU rec... SidDithers Mar 2014 #1
Because it was better than nothing and Dems had traded away what he really wanted... polichick Mar 2014 #2
FFS treestar Mar 2014 #6
Didn't say HE traded it - DEMS traded it. polichick Mar 2014 #7
He didn't even have any power to influence it! treestar Mar 2014 #10
Who said he did? I think you missed my point. polichick Mar 2014 #12
If you are looking for a reasonable discussion, stay away from these childish OPs. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #17
Of course you're right. polichick Mar 2014 #18
Your point is to trash all Democrats with Bernie as good guy treestar Mar 2014 #31
Apparently reading isn't your strong suit - but nice try. polichick Mar 2014 #34
Socialist? lol TBF Mar 2014 #25
Very pragmatic of him treestar Mar 2014 #32
Bernie on the ACA: Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #8
Big deal. "A good day?" Your obsession with this Bernie bit is silly. polichick Mar 2014 #11
Read the link Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #13
Almost anyone on this site would agree with what he said... polichick Mar 2014 #14
Here's the rest of what he said that day: Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #19
. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #3
Very good - haven't seen that one. polichick Mar 2014 #5
He didn't want to scuttle it, even with the problems. Hoyt Mar 2014 #4
DU hasn't been trolled enough today Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #9
K&R. Let the twisting begin. Whisp Mar 2014 #15
Because he was pushed polled without being given an acceptable option? Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #16
Because he hates the public option think Mar 2014 #20
He knew it was better than nothing. Bernie2016 Mar 2014 #21
Because he's a moderate socialist. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #22
Because Will Pitt is a poopiehead and a big ole meanie. n/t QC Mar 2014 #23
Thread win. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #24
? Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #27
Careful now, BJ. Is it safe to engage?? You may need to bust out one of these Number23 Mar 2014 #38
Papers Please! Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #39
Jan Brewer is a novice compared to these folks Number23 Mar 2014 #40
You can't think of any other reason? nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #26
Some poll that is. :) nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #28
let it go already. Union Scribe Mar 2014 #29
It's %$^&*()+_@34=-&^* Obama's Fault.. I don't care who voted for it!!!11 Cha Mar 2014 #30
bzzzt. lousy poll. because he was voting for the least bad- and because of the funds cali Mar 2014 #33
He was voting ProSense Mar 2014 #35
Seems like an easy poll. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #36
Yes. I try to make them very straightforward Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #41
divide bobduca Mar 2014 #37

polichick

(37,152 posts)
2. Because it was better than nothing and Dems had traded away what he really wanted...
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:17 PM
Mar 2014

- what the people really deserve.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. FFS
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:22 PM
Mar 2014

He is the only socialist in Congress. He didn't have the power to even try to "trade it away."

If he were going to stand on principle, he would have voted against it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. He didn't even have any power to influence it!
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:29 PM
Mar 2014

He would have had to trade a lot more away. Which he did by voting for it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. Your point is to trash all Democrats with Bernie as good guy
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:32 PM
Mar 2014

Yet he "trashed" your values to vote with the Democrats.

TBF

(32,056 posts)
25. Socialist? lol
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:02 PM
Mar 2014

Bernie is independent and is really not a socialist in my view. He's very liberal and he voted for this act because it was the best they could get at the time.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
8. Bernie on the ACA:
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:27 PM
Mar 2014

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the Affordable Care Act. Sen. Bernie Sanders welcomed the ruling. "Today is a good day for millions of Americans who have pre-existing conditions who can no longer be rejected by insurance companies. It is a good day for families with children under 26 who can keep their children on their health insurance policies. It is a good day for women who can no longer be charged far higher premiums than men.

"It is a good day for 30 million uninsured Americans who will have access to healthcare. It is a good day for seniors who will continue to see their prescription drug costs go down as the so-called doughnut hole goes away.


http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/a-good-day

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
13. Read the link
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:35 PM
Mar 2014

he said those words the day the Supreme Court upheld the ACA.

Bernie believes in Progress, unlike many of the self-proclaimed progressives pounding away from behind their keyboards.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
14. Almost anyone on this site would agree with what he said...
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:37 PM
Mar 2014

That doesn't mean we shouldn't have done more for the people and less for the corporations.

Like I said, you are obsessed.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. Here's the rest of what he said that day:
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:45 PM
Mar 2014

"In my view, while the Affordable Care Act is an important step in the right direction and I am glad that the Supreme Court upheld it, we ultimately need to do better.
If we are serious about providing high-quality, affordable healthcare as a right, not a privilege, the real solution to America's health care crisis is a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system. Until then, we will remain the only major nation that does not provide health care for every man, woman and child as a right of citizenship."
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/a-good-day

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. He didn't want to scuttle it, even with the problems.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:22 PM
Mar 2014

If it appeared it was going to be defeated, he would have voted against it and said it wasn't good enough. Politicians play that game all the time.

But, he knew it was better than nothing, and if it had been defeated there would have been no significant health care legislation for at least a decade just like when Hillarycare was defeated.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
9. DU hasn't been trolled enough today
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:28 PM
Mar 2014

But the real answer which is not in the poll is so that someday his vote could be used as a perceived cudgel by those who really have nothing to add.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. Because he was pushed polled without being given an acceptable option?
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:42 PM
Mar 2014

Because the People elected a candidate who promised a public option and no mandates then acted as if he'd said the opposite the moment he was elected?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
38. Careful now, BJ. Is it safe to engage?? You may need to bust out one of these
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:45 PM
Mar 2014


The Birthers have come to DU!!!

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
39. Papers Please!
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:51 PM
Mar 2014

DU's very own Jan Brewer.....who knew?

This Hoosier girl has her papers in order if the need arises.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
40. Jan Brewer is a novice compared to these folks
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:05 PM
Mar 2014

My favorite was the post from someone quoting a post of mine where I stated quite clearly that I am "currently" in Australia which was somehow irrefutable proof that I am Australian! I don't even want to PRETEND to understand how some of these minds work around here.

I'm a Georgia Peach and always have been but apparently I missed where Georgia was separated from the United States. Did someone let the Atlanta Braves and the King Museum know? Do you think France will be interested in a reverse Louisiana Purchase??

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
33. bzzzt. lousy poll. because he was voting for the least bad- and because of the funds
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:38 PM
Mar 2014

he got for CMCs- do you even know what that's about?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
35. He was voting
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:21 PM
Mar 2014

"because he was voting for the least bad- and because of the funds"

...to save lives.



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Obamacare “How many people will die if the Affordable Care Act is repealed?” Sanders asked at a hearing he chaired Thursday on what would happen if Obamacare is repealed. The hearing came on the 10th day of a government shutdown forced by House Republicans insisting that any deal to reopen the government defund the health care law. Watch excerpts from the hearing, Read Greg Kaufmann’s piece in The Nation

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http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/the-week-in-review-101113

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