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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:25 PM Mar 2014

Anita Hill: Biden Did 'Terrible Job' Running Clarence Thomas Hearings

CAITLIN MACNEAL – MARCH 20, 2014, 6:08 PM EDT

Anita Hill, the woman who accused Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment, on Thursday said that as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Vice President Joe Biden did a "terrible job" overseeing Thomas' confirmation hearings in 1991.

Hill said on HuffPost Live that Biden failed to call witnesses and experts to testify who could have shed light on the sexual harassment claims made about Thomas.

“I think he did two things that were a disservice to me, that were a disservice more importantly to the public," Hill said. "There were three women who were ready and waiting and and subpoenaed to be giving testimony about similar behavior that they had experienced or witnessed. He failed to call them."

Watch the interview via HuffPost Live:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/anita-hill-clarence-thomas-biden-hearing

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Anita Hill: Biden Did 'Terrible Job' Running Clarence Thomas Hearings (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2014 OP
Yup. I knew that. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #1
Me, too. deutsey Mar 2014 #17
Yes, it's a typical complaint of a minor participant who doesn't understand the "big picture". FarCenter Mar 2014 #21
Looking at the composition of the SCOTUS today, LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #24
I Agree, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #2
Well Joe, what say you? Your presidential ambitions will be tied to your response to Anita Submariner Mar 2014 #3
And his response when Bushy asked him to bow down and approve killing hundreds of thousands rhett o rick Mar 2014 #9
Yes he did. What happened to Anita Hill was a disgrace. Autumn Mar 2014 #4
can't really argue with that... surrealAmerican Mar 2014 #5
Yes, he did do a horrible job at that. MADem Mar 2014 #6
Bush wanted a young, reliable Federalist Society conservative, and senate Democrats... JHB Mar 2014 #7
thanks for reminding me of the backstory on this.. well done.. eom 2banon Mar 2014 #10
I'm glad she finally spoke out. Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #8
she is correct noiretextatique Mar 2014 #11
No, those hearings were the debut of the BFEE trick of using minority fronts to stymie Dems UTUSN Mar 2014 #12
To clarify: Totally agree on the injustice to Hill, just noting the bafflement of the Dems UTUSN Mar 2014 #16
Agreed. blue neen Mar 2014 #13
I remember being quite frustrated MurrayDelph Mar 2014 #14
I would think VP Biden has been kicking himself for this ever Cha Mar 2014 #15
I hope he has, and continues to do so. Paladin Mar 2014 #18
Yup bigwillq Mar 2014 #19
That was definitely the low point in Joe Biden's political career. bullwinkle428 Mar 2014 #20
a lot of people (including many liberals) failed her. nt La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #22
I watched it live and Biden Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #23

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
1. Yup. I knew that.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:28 PM
Mar 2014

I always wondered what the backroom deal was. It was clear that Thomas was slated for confirmation. I'd like to know what Biden got in trade. If he wasn't ashamed of himself, he should have been.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
17. Me, too.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 11:05 AM
Mar 2014

I know that the wheeling and dealing that go on in politics are not always for the faint (or pure) of heart, but sometimes there's a higher value that just can't be up for sale in the backroom. This was one of those times, imo.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
24. Looking at the composition of the SCOTUS today,
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:30 PM
Mar 2014

I wonder which of us understood the "big picture" least.

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
3. Well Joe, what say you? Your presidential ambitions will be tied to your response to Anita
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:32 PM
Mar 2014

I watched those hearings and Joe did do quite a lousy job by blocking testimony.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. And his response when Bushy asked him to bow down and approve killing hundreds of thousands
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:51 PM
Mar 2014

of Iraqis. May all those responsible for that horror, rot in hell. Democrats, Republicans, Christians, everyone that decided that their political careers were more important than two hundred thousand innocent children that died horrible deaths.

Dont run Joe.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Yes, he did do a horrible job at that.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:43 PM
Mar 2014

I think he's learned from his errors, though.

I think Anita Hill is a hero for these times.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
7. Bush wanted a young, reliable Federalist Society conservative, and senate Democrats...
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:47 PM
Mar 2014

...didn't want a fight.

The reason Thomas was put on the SC was...

...NOT because he was the most qualified jurist. He wasn't.
...NOT because he was the most qualified black jurist. He wasn't.
...NOT because he was the most qualified black conservative jurist. He wasn't.

He was the most qualified black conservative with reliable but obfuscatable views on abortion & other subjects, and was young enough that he'd stay on the court for decades.

The Democratic senators were initially ready to give him a pass, since 1) they didn't look forward to another SC nomination battle, and 2) initially the black community was receptive to Thomas -- not enthusiastic, but not inclined to oppose -- and a fight against him wouldn't be well received.

At the time I thought Thomas should have been voted down just because of his lackluster record and ignoring conflict of interest (Thomas failed to recuse himself in a case involving the Ralston Purina company, where his political mentor Sen. John Danforth owned millions in stock and had brothers on the board of directors. Thomas' decision in favor of Purina directly benefitted his pals).

Black opinion didn't shift until later in the process, after Thurgood Marshall made his "a black snake is still a snake" comment. The senators were finally forced to take a harder line when the harassment charges leaked out, and giving Thomas a pass would piss off another Democratic constituency: women fighting workplace harassment.

But all that happened too late: by that point conservatives were ginned up in support and the rest of the establishment didn't want another highly-visible fight, so the Thomas hearings were kept to a he-said-she-said with Anita Hill (Angela Wright was shunted off to the side), giving the senators their excuse to just put it behind them.

So here we are, a quarter-century later, and he's still a lackluster jurist who ignores conflicts of interest, and is a reliable conservative operative in the courts.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024571481#post47

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
8. I'm glad she finally spoke out.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:47 PM
Mar 2014

I hope the tide is turning and Democratic leaders will begin to understand that we're looking for champions of truth.

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
12. No, those hearings were the debut of the BFEE trick of using minority fronts to stymie Dems
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:07 AM
Mar 2014

The trick being, taking somebody ostensibly from one of the opposing party's constituent groups, a token, thereby putting the opposing party in the bind of seeming to be attacking the constituent group.

The bind was exacerbated by the sexual harassment, since Dems like Ted KENNEDY had their own histories to deal with.

They (all the Dems), back then, really, I believe, could not see a way clear how to counter-attack. The trick was superficial on the part of the BFEE, and they have used it over and over again ever since -- Miguel ESTRADA, Alberto GONZALEZ, Condo RICE, Colon POWELL, Linda CHAVEZ. How stupendously FAKE this tokenism is, was particularly obvious every time Orrin HATCH took the cameras, as in, "The Dems claim to represent minorities, so how can they oppose Mee-gwell ESTRADA?!1" Besides that his lying was always betrayed by his Shirley TEMPLE delivery.

The Dem strategy, or lack thereof, was to use the Uncle Tom attack, which is true in itself, but not effective enough.

In all the years since, I don't think the Dems at the strategy decision making level have settled on the simplest and most effective reply to the BFEE trick, which is this: [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Openly DITCH the Uncle Tom attack, say, "Whether this person is betraying their own home group is for their own conscience to deal with. What matters in our political debate is that this person claims to be a Wingnut and we should take them at their word. And therefore we Dems oppose them on the grounds of BEING A WINGNUT. It don't matter their gender, race, ethnicity or anything else. It is enough that they are a wingnut and their policies are bad for the country".[/FONT]

What slides by, also, is that the Orrin HATCH rationale is RACIST in itself: He says a nominee should be supported BECAUSE of the race or ethnicity or whatever-issue. That's racist.

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
16. To clarify: Totally agree on the injustice to Hill, just noting the bafflement of the Dems
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:52 AM
Mar 2014

A common dilemma for Dems - being put over this or that barrel, as with DASCHLE under Shrub, most of the Dems during the phony Iraq hysteria (being called unpatriotic or weak)

MurrayDelph

(5,294 posts)
14. I remember being quite frustrated
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:43 AM
Mar 2014

with his high opinion of his skill.

When Star Wars introduced the horrible character JarJar Binks, I kept thinking of him as JoeJoe Biden ("Meesa Senator. Meesa clever&quot

Cha

(297,196 posts)
15. I would think VP Biden has been kicking himself for this ever
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 01:01 AM
Mar 2014

since our country has had to learn exactly who this Clarence Thomas is.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
18. I hope he has, and continues to do so.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 11:19 AM
Mar 2014

I'm a fan of Biden's, but the treatment of Anita Hill at those hearings was reprehensible. I'm glad she's speaking out about it.
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