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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:29 AM Mar 2014

Iran seen building a fake Aircraft Carrier

WASHINGTON — Iran is building a nonworking mock-up of an American nuclear-powered aircraft carrier that United States officials say may be intended to be blown up for propaganda value.

Intelligence analysts studying satellite photos of Iranian military installations first noticed the vessel rising from the Gachin shipyard, near Bandar Abbas on the Persian Gulf, last summer. The ship has the same distinctive shape and style of the Navy’s Nimitz-class carriers, as well as the Nimitz’s number 68 neatly painted in white near the bow. Mock aircraft can be seen on the flight deck.

The Iranian mock-up, which American officials described as more like a barge than a warship, has no nuclear propulsion system and is only about two-thirds the length of a typical 1,100-foot-long Navy carrier. Intelligence officials do not believe that Iran is capable of building an actual aircraft carrier.

“Based on our observations, this is not a functioning aircraft carrier; it’s a large barge built to look like an aircraft carrier,” said Cmdr. Jason Salata, a spokesman for the Navy’s Fifth Fleet in Bahrain, across the Persian Gulf from Iran. “We’re not sure what Iran hopes to gain by building this. If it is a big propaganda piece, to what end?”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/21/world/middleeast/a-ship-being-built-in-iran-looks-awfully-familiar-to-the-us.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

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Iran seen building a fake Aircraft Carrier (Original Post) n2doc Mar 2014 OP
equally likely to be American propaganda Enrique Mar 2014 #1
No, it isn't, don't be silly. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #11
ok, i'll be wise Enrique Mar 2014 #12
I think I know how they're going to use it. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #2
Sounds like their F-313 'stealth fighter' that couldn't fly jsr Mar 2014 #3
Maybe it's for a movie or something? Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #4
Or it might be a training site for Iranian forces Savannahmann Mar 2014 #5
A couple of guesses stevenleser Mar 2014 #6
It's really small with no power plant pintobean Mar 2014 #9
The Iranians could Sinistrous Mar 2014 #7
... CFLDem Mar 2014 #8
Double fake Turbineguy Mar 2014 #10
Let me guess... NV Whino Mar 2014 #13
Building it for North Korea. VScott Mar 2014 #14

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
1. equally likely to be American propaganda
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:33 AM
Mar 2014

I predict with 100% certainty the chest-pounding reaction from a lot of people here in the U.S. to this story. "Ha ha those primitive Iranians are trying to imitate our American might!" And I can see how that reaction might be being orchestrated.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
12. ok, i'll be wise
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:46 AM
Mar 2014

and I'll assume that the information coming from military sources regarding Iran is to be taken at face value.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
2. I think I know how they're going to use it.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:34 AM
Mar 2014

Sympathetic magic. They'll blow holes in it with rockets, sorta like sticking pins in a giant voodoo doll, thereby sinking the REAL Nimitz.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. Maybe it's for a movie or something?
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:42 AM
Mar 2014

I don't quite get the point behind the story, since everyone is pretty sure this carrier is harmless and has no real practical military use...

I'm betting satellites can find a lot of curiously-weird-but-harmless oddities being built somewhere...

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
5. Or it might be a training site for Iranian forces
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:47 AM
Mar 2014

The US Military regularly builds towns to practice siezing that resemble foreign towns. They call this MOUT. Or Military Operations in Urban Terrain. I remember reading about one at Fort Bragg that was built to assist the training of Delta Force when they were planning the rescue of civillians during the Iranian Hostage Crisis under President Carter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_One
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOUT

The Special Forces built a copy of the Son Tay prison camp to practice raiding during Viet-Nam. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivory_Coast

Imagine the usefullness of having a dummy carrier to practice approaching with submarines, airplanes, even suicide attacks. Iran has a few Kilo class submarines that were sold by the Russians. They might be planning on attacking a carrier with them, and using the mock up as a training tool. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilo_class_submarine

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. A couple of guesses
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:50 AM
Mar 2014

1. Target practice in war games meant to simulate an attack on an actual US carrier.

2. A helicopter carrier or primitive aircraft carrier.

WWII era aircraft carriers were pretty primitive by today's standards. I don't claim to be a ship designer and the ability to marry the operational requirements of today's combat jets with an appropriate platform takes a lot more expertise than I have but I am wondering how low tech you could get away with and still have something on which you could do some basic flight operations.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
9. It's really small with no power plant
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:07 AM
Mar 2014

and no arresting gear or catapult. It would have to be towed and could only be used for helos and/or jump jets.

Sinistrous

(4,249 posts)
7. The Iranians could
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:51 AM
Mar 2014

sink it, or threaten to sink it, in the strait of Hormuz. Heaven knows they are strange enough to think there would be some propaganda benefit from using a mock-up of a US vessel.

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
8. ...
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:59 AM
Mar 2014


Xerxes must be rolling in his grave. Maybe they could power this thing by attaching magnets to him.

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