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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:43 PM Mar 2014

Obama says U.S. military strikes could not have stopped Syria misery

Obama says U.S. military strikes could not have stopped Syria misery

(Reuters) - The United States could not have stopped the humanitarian crisis in Syria with military strikes, President Barack Obama said...asked in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley whether he regretted not applying U.S. force in Syria, where the three-year civil war has killed more than 140,000 people and displaced millions.

"It is, I think, a false notion that somehow we were in a position to, through a few selective strikes, prevent the kind of hardship that we've seen in Syria," Obama said.

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Obama said the United States would have a hard time committing to putting troops on the ground in Syria, a commitment he said could have lasted "perhaps another decade."

American troops have been involved in a decade of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"And it's not clear whether the outcome in fact would have turned out significantly better," Obama said.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/28/us-syria-crisis-obama-idUSBREA2R21O20140328
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Obama says U.S. military strikes could not have stopped Syria misery (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2014 OP
He is absolutely right. cali Mar 2014 #1
Do you remember people telling you how wrong we were to think so at the time? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #2
Uh, no. Because I did nothing remotely like that. cali Mar 2014 #3
No? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #4
yes. I was adamently against any U.S. military intervention of any kind cali Mar 2014 #8
What? Almost every DU'er posting was against intervention in Syria. Stating otherwise KittyWampus Mar 2014 #6
Save for a core of very loud, very conservative bomb-frotters, yes Scootaloo Mar 2014 #9
The strikes ProSense Mar 2014 #7
Of course. Obama, as most of us, would rather use diplomatic dialogue rather than military lumpy Mar 2014 #13
Yes, and ProSense Mar 2014 #14
Just remember that with dictators, you sometimes need to also point a gun at their head ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #19
His keystone cop way of getting there was impressive. Vattel Mar 2014 #20
The "keystone cop way" ProSense Mar 2014 #21
Hahahahahaha AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author ProSense Mar 2014 #23
Kick ProSense Mar 2014 #24
Good to hear the president saying this. /nt think Mar 2014 #5
Kick! n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #10
Well yes and no AngryAmish Mar 2014 #11
"get technical" ProSense Mar 2014 #12
What about pressure on Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey fuelling the conflict ? /nt jakeXT Mar 2014 #15
Thanks PS Cha Mar 2014 #16
But, Obama pushed for US strikes on Syria last year. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #17
The strikes ProSense Mar 2014 #18
These aren't the droids you're looking for neverforget Mar 2014 #25
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Do you remember people telling you how wrong we were to think so at the time?
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:51 PM
Mar 2014

we had to send Iran a message!
we just wanted brown children to die!
We love chemical weapons!
Why don't you just vote for Assad?!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. No?
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:54 PM
Mar 2014

I'm pretty sure you were against military strikes against Syria, weren't you?

Point I'm making was that there were a hell of a lot of DU'ers who were very much for such an assault on Syria... And who were very insistent that those of us who were NOT for such attacks were just the worst, most despicable people.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. yes. I was adamently against any U.S. military intervention of any kind
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:56 PM
Mar 2014

and now I get what you were saying.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. What? Almost every DU'er posting was against intervention in Syria. Stating otherwise
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:55 PM
Mar 2014

is revisionist, at best.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. The strikes
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:56 PM
Mar 2014

"Do you remember people telling you how wrong we were to think so at the time?"

...on Syria's chemical arsenal, which even the administration stated was less preferable to Assad cooperation in terms of disarmament, is separate from what President Obama is addressing in the OP.

The use of military force in terms of ground troops and involvement in the war was never on the table. The President said so at the time. The focus was disarming Assad.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
13. Of course. Obama, as most of us, would rather use diplomatic dialogue rather than military
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 07:32 PM
Mar 2014

solutions. I think he has demonstrated that against all odds.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. Yes, and
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:04 PM
Mar 2014

"I think he has demonstrated that against all odds."

...some of the taunting is coming from Congress.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
19. Just remember that with dictators, you sometimes need to also point a gun at their head
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:29 PM
Mar 2014

Because otherwise they won't change their position.

President Obama wanted widespread chemical "WMDs" out of the equation. Not more never ending peacekeeping, bleeding us dry. With a combination of diplomacy and threats, that's exactly what he got. At zero cost.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
20. His keystone cop way of getting there was impressive.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:40 PM
Mar 2014

He claimed authority to launch an attack that candidate Obama said the president didn't have. But then he went to Congress for authorization anyways. He argued forcefully for the importance of a military strike, only to be turned down by Congress. Then Kerry makes a rhetorical point that the Russians take at face value. And suddenly diplomacy worked!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
21. The "keystone cop way"
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 09:57 PM
Mar 2014

was a product of media speculation and a lot of people helping them to push it.

I mean, the description of events as such creates the impression that Obama's acheivements are based on luck.



Response to AnalystInParadise (Reply #22)

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
11. Well yes and no
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 07:19 PM
Mar 2014

He is actually correct, the American people have no stomach for war right now and the Alawites will fight to the last man...because if they lose there will be no Alawites left.

But to paraphrase noted philosopher Larry Holmes, if you want to get technical the US military could win the war.

But the president is right in all but my pedantic, stupid example.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. The strikes
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:24 PM
Mar 2014

"But, Obama pushed for US strikes on Syria last year."

...on Syria's chemical arsenal, which even the administration stated was less preferable to Assad cooperation in terms of disarmament, are separate from what President Obama is addressing in the OP.

The use of military force in terms of ground troops and involvement in the war was never on the table. The President said so at the time. The focus was on disarming Assad.

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