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Superior Court judge who sentenced a wealthy du Pont heir to probation for raping his 3-year-old daughter noted in her order that he "will not fare well" in prison and needed treatment instead of time behind bars, court records show.
Judge Jan Jurden's sentencing order for Robert H. Richards IV suggested that she considered unique circumstances when deciding his punishment for fourth-degree rape. Her observation that prison life would adversely affect Richards was a rare and puzzling rationale, several criminal justice authorities in Delaware said. Some also said her view that treatment was a better idea than prison is a justification typically used when sentencing drug addicts, not child rapists.
Richards' 2009 rape case became public this month after attorneys for his ex-wife Tracy filed a lawsuit seeking compensatory and punitive damages for the abuse of his daughter.
The fact that Jurden expressed concern that prison wasn't right for Richards came as a surprise to defense lawyers and prosecutors who consider her a tough sentencing judge. Several noted that prison officials can put inmates in protective custody if they are worried about their safety, noting that child abusers are sometimes targeted by other inmates.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2014/03/28/sunday-preview-du-pont-heir-stayed-prison/7016769/
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)There are two separate systems of "justice" in the U.S., one for the rich, and another for the rest of us.
steve2470
(37,481 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,847 posts)It's perplexing.
And let me just say,,, I have a three year old daughter. Anybody who could imagine doing something of this nature to a three year old child is depraved. I don't think there is any amount of rehabilitation that could make him not a child molester.
This judge is wrong. WRONG!
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Jan R. Jurden is a judge on the New Castle County Superior Court in Delaware.[1] She has overseen the court's mental health court since 2008. Former governor Ruth Ann Minner appointed her in May 2001.[2] She was reappointed in 2013 for a term that will expire in 2025.[3]
http://judgepedia.org/Jan_R._Jurden
Divernan
(15,480 posts)and lost out on that just last January. Keeping in mind that most publicly traded corporations are based in Delaware, the judges' appointments/selections come with an implied quid pro quo: The governor appoints you judge; you look after the best interests of Delaware's corporate "citizens". I suggest that played a large part in her leniency toward a rapist who was a DuPont family member.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303309504579181600208743392
In addition to the chancellor, the candidates include Carolyn Berger, a current Delaware Supreme Court justice, and Jan Jurden and James T. Vaughn, Jr. , both judges on the state's Superior Court, according to the person.
Let's hope the negative publicity on this DuPont heir favoritism is enough to spike her hopes for future judicial promotions.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Delaware is home to over 50 % of publicly traded corporations. The appellate judges are all appointed by the Governors with the expectation they will look after the best interests of the state's corporate "citizens". This DuPont heir rapist is part of the good ole' corporate owners' white boys club, so the judge protected him. Corporations have a proud tradition of economically raping the US (off-shoring,etc.) and this case extends that right to physically rape US citizens, even 3 year olds. Her most recent appointment to the bench lasts until 2025.
This judge was appointed by two Democratic governors. The first was Ruth Ann Miner; the second was Jack Markell.
http://ballotpedia.org/Ruth_Ann_Minner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Markell
Calling Third Way Manny!
Wind Dancer
(3,618 posts)This is a perfect example!
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)This country is fucked.
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)TexasTowelie
(125,678 posts)and disgusting.
dickthegrouch
(4,309 posts)If affluenza were truly infectious, the 1% wouldn't be well on the way to becoming the 0.1%
Orrex
(66,710 posts)And every day thereafter.
dickthegrouch
(4,309 posts)Somebody give me a degree in statistics, quick.
LisaL
(47,358 posts)Affluenza strikes again.
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)The only people usually referred to as 'heirs' in the US media are those who have vast family wealth coming down to them. And 'du Pont' is a family lineage along the lines of 'Rockefeller' or 'Morgan' or 'Carnegie'. Old school robber barons of the industrial age, who qualify as 'old money' nowadays.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Is the air to Dupont wealthy? Is that what you are asking? Really? Why else would he get the Affluenza treatment?
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)roberth.richards.jpg
Robert H. Richards IV(Photo: Submitted)
Richards is a scion of two prominent Delaware families the du Pont family, who built the worldwide chemical empire, and the Richards family, who co-founded the prestigious corporate law firm Richards Layton & Finger. Du Pont family patriarch Irenee du Pont is his great-grandfather. His father, Robert H. Richards III, was a partner in the law firm until his 2008 retirement.
Richards IV is supported by a trust fund and paid $1.8 million for his 5,800-square-foot mansion near Winterthur Museum. He also lists a home in the exclusive North Shores neighborhood near Rehoboth Beach as a residence, according to the state's sex abuse registry.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2014/03/18/du-pont-heir-faces-child-sex-lawsuit/6565107/
LisaL
(47,358 posts)It's like, a totally debilitating disease and shit.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)How do these judges sleep at night?
They make me want to
mazzarro
(3,450 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)...
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Silent3
(15,909 posts)...no matter how terrible their crimes, should be subject to the unchecked, arbitrary abuse of other prisoners as an unofficial, extra-constitutional we'll-look-the-other-way extension of their legally-mandated punishment.
Rhiannon12866
(250,741 posts)Very well said! Prison reform is so long overdue! When so many who were convicted of nonviolent crimes emerge from prison worse than they went in, something is terribly wrong with the system. More needs to be done to rehabilitate instead and those with addictions to drugs and alcohol need treatment, not jail. Here in NY, there are new county programs addressing this and are helping countless people get well again and start over.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If he has been found guilty by a court, he belongs in prison. We should all be treated as equals before the law.
Rhiannon12866
(250,741 posts)I was addressing post #80, which I thought made a good point, rather than the OP.
It's true what you say. The vile in me longs for the most rabid punishment for the overlords, but the righteous seek justice without the self-negation of revenge.
You understand this intuitively I think.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)And it does nothing to better society either.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)'someone will kill you the first night your charges are known in the prison'.
You'd have to stick him in solitary for the entire span of his stay, and he still might wind up dead.
A cop sentenced to prison would last longer than this monster would. They'll straight up kill him.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)However there is a cure for it, sue the bastard into poverty.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)That doesn't address the problem at all.
treestar
(82,383 posts)How blatant. You can bet someone not a DuPont heir would go to jail.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Who would fare well in prison?
Unbelievable!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)in our criminal, justice, govt, military, educational, and religious systems thru out the nation.
CFLDem
(2,083 posts)It is not a cultural phenomenon.
Disgusting and out of touch that you would think it is.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)CFLDem
(2,083 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)CFLDem
(2,083 posts)upon reading your reply.
Getting raped is immaterial to affluenza since it can happen to anyone, whereas getting a lenient sentence for raping is a perfect example since it only happens to rich f&cks.
Any questions?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)you are wrong. and it has been shown how wrong you are, repeatedly on du, with you in some of the threads. all over the place men are raping, and not being punished. our boys raping and towns protecting them even as they put the rape on net. no... you are wrong. from calif, to two in montana to a couple in alabama, just regular ole joes, in their forties, raping girls, conscious and not let off with little or no sentence cause....
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CFLDem
(2,083 posts)Thats why they make the news.
Context, Sea, context.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)that a black defendant in that same situation would have gotten away with probation??
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)are not that income bracket.
black men are mostly discriminated against in the judicial system
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)While it is true that wealthy whites fair much better, if you look at the statistics about rape and child abuse you will find that prosecution for said crimes is consistently lower than other crimes, in spite of any evidence. This is true regardless of social/economic strata.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)although it's been in the works since 2009. We are the first forum to discuss her decision. Only 2 news articles have hit the web today.
Let's see if the public responds with an outcry
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)redqueen
(115,186 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Put him in protective custody, put him in solitary if need be.
Affluenza? And how does rape, especially of a 3 year old, by the very parent who should be protecting the kid only become a '4th degree felony'? How is it Delaware doesn't have that as a first degree felony?
Don't get me wrong, I think we incarcerate far too many people, for far too many crimes. But if you're going to throw anyone in jail, surely it should be people who rape their own 3 year old daughters.
I'd say it's time for that judge to retire from the bench. She's clearly lost her capacity for rational decision making.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)of pot often get far more severe sentencing. We often live in a twisted country.
Orrex
(66,710 posts)On the grounds that they "will not fare well" in prison either.
LisaL
(47,358 posts)So our prisons should be vacated using that judge's logic.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Hell, he might not survive an hour in the general population.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)
Judge Jan Jurden
You can ask her why she let's baby fuckers off the hook...little cash payout maybe?
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)I'd say the three-year-old didn't fare too well, but Jurden apparently cares more about sick pedos than babies.
Interesting to get hold of her bank statements. I can see no other reason for this travesty.
Poor kid, to know that MONSTER is still out there....
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)put money in a relative's name, or a dummy corporation set up for her, or an offshore account. Someone got to her with LOTS of money, especially since she is *known* as a "tough sentencing judge".
Always follow the money....
Peace,
Ghost
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Moostache
(11,009 posts)Justice is one of them, and this judge should be forced to wear a price tag lapel pin for the rest of her life.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Judge earns in the lowish six figures. A million bucks or two would be a drop in the bucket for this family.
I wonder what could have happened here?
steve2470
(37,481 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)ie rape. But the poor or black people deserve that punishment.
treestar
(82,383 posts)"Sure, they have protective custody, but that is solitary confinement for 23 hours a day. We're not a third-world society," Hurley said.
"Sex offenders are the lowest of the low in prison," Hurley said. "He's a rich, white boy who is a wuss and a child perv. The prison can't protect them, and Jan Jurden knows that reality. She is right on."
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)those who are not so affluent and charged with the same crime?
malaise
(293,122 posts)Impeach this criminal judge
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)Just think of it as early retirement on a very good pension.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Solly Mack
(96,429 posts)Money, well known name and family connections - and you can buy your way out of anything.
I wonder what a comparison of her sentencing in other rape cases would reveal.
Our prisons suck but is that a good reason to not jail someone? (Because if it is...)
Would a poor man get the same consideration?
polichick
(37,626 posts)Solly Mack
(96,429 posts)City Lights
(25,578 posts)I am fucking outraged!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)to scare of ex-husband, she's facing 20 years in prison.
City Lights
(25,578 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)While she won the right to a retrial, the claim has been made that she wasn't eligible to have the 3 20 year sentences served concurrently, so if she loses again, she'd be facing 3 consecutive 20 year sentences for firing a gun and completely failing to hit the husband or either of the two children in the house.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)No peace!
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)should be locked up and the key thrown away. As for this judge, she should get some sort of consequences for only giving this child rapist probation. In fact, I agree that she should be impeached.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)http://beforeitsnews.com/power-elite/2014/03/this-is-the-face-of-evil-du-pont-heir-rapes-own-children-no-jail-time-being-sued-for-damages-video-2445140.html
freshwest
(53,661 posts)alp227
(33,148 posts)Its an infowars wannabe crank site.
malthaussen
(18,426 posts)That's a problem, right there.
-- Mal
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Ernest Hemingway: Yes, they have money.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)In June 2008, he avoided mandatory prison time by pleading guilty to a single count of fourth-degree rape in a deal arranged by Maurer and prosecutor Renee Hrivnak, court records show.
Hrivnak could not be reached to discuss the plea deal, but Joseph Rogalsky, spokesman for Biden's office, said, "We cannot comment on that."
Superior Court Judge Jan Jurden sentenced Richards to eight years in prison but suspended that for Level II probation, which requires monthly visits with a case officer. Jurden also ordered him to pay $4,395 to the Delaware Violent Crimes Compensation Board, records filed with the lawsuit show.
"This self-confessed, admitted rapist and child abuser didn't go to jail, and, in fact, he stays in luxury where he has always been," attorney Thomas C. Crumplar, who represents the children and Richards' ex-wife Tracy, said during a news conference Tuesday.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2014/03/18/du-pont-heir-faces-child-sex-lawsuit/6565107/
Dorian Gray
(13,847 posts)what the family history is here...
But if those were my children, I would spend the rest of my life trying to force him to pay, in some way, for this crime.
hootinholler
(26,451 posts)Had he been sentenced it would have been at a club fed anyway.
jmowreader
(52,917 posts)What do you think, 20 years in solitary confinement in the Delaware State Pen, followed by 20 years in the Delaware State Hospital trying to fix what 20 years in the hole did?
Ka hrnt
(308 posts)"Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones get caught."--Honore de Balzac.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)marble falls
(71,169 posts)Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)From the article cited in the OP:
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2014/03/18/du-pont-heir-faces-child-sex-lawsuit/6565107/
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and what her punishment might have been had she failed to reach the "right" decision.
Seriously,
I wonder how his 3 year old victim is faring as a result of his perverted abuse?
Texasgal
(17,236 posts)with rape culture.
Disgusting!
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)but never do anything.
2banon
(7,321 posts)not only should she be disbarred, she should investigated for corruption, tried, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison. and this news needs to go viral.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)LAGC
(5,330 posts)LuvNewcastle
(17,697 posts)But would that matter to a judge in my case? They locked me up for 3 months because I had an old fine I couldn't pay. This guy RAPED HIS OWN DAUGHTER and was sentenced to treatment and probation. There's a completely different "justice" system for the wealthy, and I for one am sick of it.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)everyone knows that...
lillypaddle
(9,606 posts)bizarro world.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)madmom
(9,681 posts)affluenza, shouldn't we be trying to find a cure? It seems their disease is a curse to all of us.
LAGC
(5,330 posts)Relieve these unfortunate, put-upon rich people of all their ailments...
qazplm
(3,626 posts)(don't get me wrong, the main problem is a problem!!)
They are "right" when they say that the prison system can't protect him from harm as a "rich, wussy, perv."
But when the "solution" to that legit problem is not to fix the system to make it possible to protect even folks like him from harm, but instead to not have him go to jail at all, we've got a huge problem that hits two areas (the fact that rich "pervs" like him get off while poor accused get thrown under the jail, and the fact that our prisons are simply holding pens where there is little treatment, little rehabilitation, and the only benefit to society is temporary removal).
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Something in an amputation via machete perhaps.....
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2banon
(7,321 posts)Although, I doubt she would have been stupid enough to stash her pay off where it could be audited. Du Pont no doubt would have taken the precautions to make the pay off shore.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)...where anyone at all, rich or poor, no matter how terrible their crime, is so easily subject to abuse by other prisoners.
If you think the penalty for raping a three year old should be frequent beatings and rape, advocate for that to be the actual legal sentence, work to remove the constitutional protection against cruel and unusual punishment if that's what you want the real penalty to be.
Don't, however, put on a masquerade of constitutional protection and a civilized penal system while looking the other way with a wink and a nod, hoping other prisoners do your dirty work (while victimizing plenty of other people whose crimes aren't anywhere nearly so bad at the same time).
LuvNewcastle
(17,697 posts)In fact, they think it's funny. It's sick that society reacts to prison rape with laughter. There are plenty of people in prison right now serving time for nonviolent offenses, and nobody cares about them. How much resentment would you build up before you're released from prison? And we wonder why there's such a high rate of recidivism in this country.
CSStrowbridge
(267 posts)What is fourth degree rape? I'm curious, but it is not something I want to Google.
I wonder if there was any financial connection between the judge and the defendant that led to this ruling.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)ilty of rape in the fourth degree when the person:
(1) Intentionally engages in sexual intercourse with another person, and the victim has not yet reached that victim's sixteenth birthday; or
(2) Intentionally engages in sexual intercourse with another person, and the victim has not yet reached that victim's eighteenth birthday, and the person is 30 years of age or older, except that such intercourse shall not be unlawful if the victim and person are married at the time of such intercourse; or
(3) Intentionally engages in sexual penetration with another person under any of the following circumstances:
a. The sexual penetration occurs without the victim's consent; or
b. The victim has not reached that victim's sixteenth birthday; or
(4) Intentionally engages in sexual intercourse or sexual penetration with another person, and the victim has reached that victim's sixteenth birthday but has not yet reached that victim's eighteenth birthday and the defendant stands in a position of trust, authority or supervision over the child, or is an invitee or designee of a person who stands in a position of trust, authority or supervision over the child.
(b) Paragraphs (a)(3) and (a)(4) of this section do not apply to a licensed medical doctor or nurse who places 1 or more fingers or an object inside a vagina or anus for the purpose of diagnosis or treatment or to a law-enforcement officer who is engaged in the lawful performance of his or her duties.
Rape in the fourth degree is a class C felony.
71 Del. Laws, c. 285, § 10; 70 Del. Laws, c. 186, § 1.;
- See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/decode/11/5/II/770#sthash.udFiW2p8.dpuf
CSStrowbridge
(267 posts)So fourth degree rape is... rape. Or am I missing anything?
"The sexual penetration occurs without the victim's consent" ... isn't that the textbook definition of rape? If this is fourth degree rape, what's degrees one through three?
On a side note, these laws should also include "forced to penetrate" and not just "sexual penetration".
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)who murdered someone a few years ago? Inbreeding, maybe?
alfredo
(60,253 posts)They define the laws that apply to them.
The idle rich are parasites that can't can't survive without a host, still they believe they are superior to the host that provides their sustenance.
alfredo
(60,253 posts)For that.
peabody
(445 posts)Who the hell fares well in prison?
uberblonde
(1,220 posts)And everything in it. Not a surprise to most people.
CanonRay
(15,974 posts)Again, and again, and again.....
salib
(2,116 posts)She was paid off and successfully threatened.
Just a game anymore to these people.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)BainsBane
(57,448 posts)Of course not.
lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)the judge should be sent to prison for the very obvious "different strokes for different folks" thingy.
williesgirl
(4,033 posts)factsarenotfair
(910 posts)bloomington-lib
(946 posts)Princess Turandot
(4,906 posts)who offered him a plea bargain to a crime with no mandatory sentence requirements.
.......But in June 2008, just days before a scheduled trial, prosecutor Renee Hrivnak offered Richards a plea to a single count of fourth-degree rape, which carries no mandatory time, and he accepted, admitting in court that he abused his child.
............Fourth-degree rape is a Class C violent felony that by law can bring up to 15 years in prison, though guidelines suggest zero to 2½ years in prison.
At his February 2009 sentencing, Hrivnak recommended probation.
This occurred in 2009; it came out now because of a civil action filed by his ex-wife.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)Guy paid a few thousand in fines - make the fines reflect the wealth. How 'bout a few million?
She's worried about his welfare in prison, ? (yeah, we share your concern, lady) have his 'wealthy' ass pay for extra security.
Hope at the very least they gave him about a hundred thousand hours of community service, first job for our boy: pick up litter, mop some floors, paint some walls, sweep some streets.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)are nothing more than rhetorical constructs that don't exist outside of the imagination and people will think you're nuts or dismiss you as a nihilist.
Fixing real problems with make-believe solutions is very difficult.
chillfactor
(7,694 posts)disgusting!
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)This is utterly sickening. I'm tired of seeing the rich get off free for the most heinous of crimes.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(19,019 posts)But there are still the lawsuits which will hopefully destroy him financially, and I sincerely hope that the "rich, white boy who is a wuss and a child perv" spends the rest of his miserable life looking over his shoulder.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)Control-Z
(15,686 posts)I know many probably think she won't remember. And for her sake I hope she doesn't. But it is not unusual for very young children to remember such traumas.
The animal should rot in prison.
The judge should spend some time there herself.
raccoon
(32,232 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)See, this is why so many of us are outraged by income inequality and the double standard of justice.
This is not what the founders envisioned for the nation.
This is a convoluted version of justice.
This judge Jurden deserves a swift kick in the ass.
I've got news for you, Judge, prison has an adverse affect on everyone, not just the wealthy and well connected. Guess you never gave that a moment's consideration.
zentrum
(9,870 posts)...she was bought.
nikto
(3,284 posts)So he made it with the baby.
Terrible act for an ordinary person.
But not really so bad at all for a wealthy person.
It's because they're better.
The New America.
Get used to it.
eridani
(51,907 posts)The Wizard
(13,604 posts)"Obscenity who really cares. Propaganda all is phony."
(Bob Dylan, "It's All Right Ma"
Does the Judge have a Cayman Islands account?
loudsue
(14,087 posts)I'm sure the judge has family members that she doesn't want to see committing "suicide". Either that, or she's on the payroll. Good ole USA: third world justice system.
Either
Bought off
Paid off, or
knocked off.
The mafia culture permeates every level of our government.
woodsprite
(12,547 posts)After he set precedent by going after that downstate
pedophile doc. I know he had a shitload of counts
against him, and he was in a position of trust. BUT
who does a kid usually trust more than their Dad.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)I say we just break out the guillotine.
Use it for both this sick rapist pedophile and the judge that protects him.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)It looks like it was originally two charges and they dropped one and lowered the other during the plea bargain.
If he'd been in Oregon with the Class B felony there would have been prison time involved.
I have no problem with him getting treatment (and I think he should), but it does seem like his status got him a much better deal then most facing those kind of charges would get.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,847 posts)This judge.... she totally got it wrong.
WHile I'm sure he needs psychiatric counseling, he should receive it while in jail.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)TxDemChem
(1,924 posts)That is all I can even say.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)pragmatic_dem
(410 posts)yesphan
(1,604 posts)fair as well after sentencing.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7834281
salin
(48,958 posts)charged with murder. http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1998-09-18/news/1998261062_1_du-pont-family-moseley-john-du
He died in prison as well.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2004/may/27/du-pont-heiress-husband-dies/
Something is awfully wrong in the family.
This story is outrageous on so many levels - especially with the willful damaging of one's children, for sexual pleasure. Those poor children.
Deep13
(39,157 posts)lupinella
(365 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:04 PM - Edit history (1)
This is wild end of empire stuff. Never I thought I'd see the day.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Good grief!!!
KansDem
(28,498 posts)
I wouldn't fare well!
rafeh1
(385 posts)I doubt this would be the same punishment for a an african american from watts.
We have a criminal justice system run by criminals for criminals and of criminals. Where the rich criminals go scot free and the poor innocent plea bargain.
Innocent until you run out of money is the rule and plea bargain guilty pleas the result.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)nilesobek
(1,423 posts)I betcha she got a nice payoff or consideration.
TNNurse
(7,497 posts)1) The judge should lose her job.
2) He should do some time in a facility, not house arrest.
3) If there is concern for his safety in a prison, I am good with solitary.
4) He should not be alone with children, ever. If his own want to see him when they are older, that is their decision.
5) His children should get his money, not when he dies, but now in a trust.
6) Guilty is guilty, money should not buy innocence or lighter punishment.