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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 11:17 PM Mar 2014

BOOM, there it is: AP/ABC News Confirm breaking 7M QHPs by Midnight

BOOM, there it is: AP/ABC News Confirm breaking 7M QHPs by Midnight

by Charles Gaba on Mon, 03/31/2014 - 10:58pm

Source: ABC News, 03/31/14: AP Sources: Health Law Sign-Ups on Track to Hit 7M

Beating expectations, President Barack Obama's health care overhaul was on track to sign up more than 7 million Americans for health insurance on deadline day Monday, government officials told The Associated Press.

...Two government officials confirmed the milestone, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter ahead of an official announcement.

OK, I've updated the "official projection" to 7,080,180 just for the hell of it, but I'm not trying to pretend that I had this thing nailed to the decimal point; my last real projection was between 6.9M - 7.0M, so I'm willing to divide 7,000,000 into whatever the final number is to find out how far off I am.

Believe me, I'd be perfectly happy if the final number as of 11:59pm ends up being 7.1M, 7.2M or even higher

http://acasignups.net/14/03/31/boom-there-it-apabc-news-confirm-breaking-7m-qhps-midnight

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BOOM, there it is: AP/ABC News Confirm breaking 7M QHPs by Midnight (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2014 OP
Benghazi!!!!! NightWatcher Mar 2014 #1
Kick! n/t sheshe2 Mar 2014 #2
the republicans are in a tizzy.. chillfactor Mar 2014 #3
but we're 'cookin' the books' spanone Apr 2014 #4
If projections before open enrollment was 7 million, and the actual tops 7 million alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #5
I think possibly if the initial problems had not been as bad as they were davidpdx Apr 2014 #19
Suck it, Carnival Cruz. stg81 Apr 2014 #6
Nice flamingdem Apr 2014 #7
Benghazi! Benghazi! Death spiral, cook-the-books... nikto Apr 2014 #8
Cheers to us and suck on it eleventh hour derpers trying to squelch it. you lost. Cha Apr 2014 #9
Been watching that blog like 538 on 11/6/12 SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2014 #10
See? It's an even bigger failure than they said it would be! Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #11
K & R Iliyah Apr 2014 #12
Excellent! n/t onestepforward Apr 2014 #13
Yes! and can't help but enjoy seeing repug heads explode. nt UtahLib Apr 2014 #14
US population approx. 315 Million. delrem Apr 2014 #15
Since this is the count from the exchange, truebluegreen Apr 2014 #16
Everyone should be equal. delrem Apr 2014 #17
Pardon me for saying it, but "duh." truebluegreen Apr 2014 #18
So what's *your* point in responding at all? nt delrem Apr 2014 #24
I will ask the same. nt truebluegreen Apr 2014 #31
Everyone should be equal. nt delrem Apr 2014 #33
The Homeless (who deserve insurance too) are in the 14.6-22.1 Million number Motown_Johnny Apr 2014 #21
Right, I wasn't paying attention delrem Apr 2014 #25
add ~10 million for the SCHIPS expansion Motown_Johnny Apr 2014 #27
You're comparing sign-ups to population. jeff47 Apr 2014 #29
It's too early for the "all or nothing" meme. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #30
Repubbies going to have their diapers in a stinky twist today Berlum Apr 2014 #20
TYRANNY! IMPEACH! JaneyVee Apr 2014 #22
K&R napkinz Apr 2014 #23
Happy Dance! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #26
Excellent news! Spazito Apr 2014 #28
Obamacare Enrollment Is Far From Over ProSense Apr 2014 #32

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
3. the republicans are in a tizzy..
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 11:45 PM
Mar 2014

they never thought ACA would take off..now they are saying the White House is "cooking the numbers"..LOL..defeat very difficult on the recons....

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. If projections before open enrollment was 7 million, and the actual tops 7 million
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 12:25 AM
Apr 2014

Was the opening period really "disastrous?"

Can a project still be "disastrous" in any of its phases if it meets its benchmark projections?



They will keep saying "disastrous" of course, but it's clear as day: slow and steady wins the day.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
19. I think possibly if the initial problems had not been as bad as they were
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 06:28 AM
Apr 2014

that 10 million would have signed up. Oregon's health exchange had a tough start as well. Still I'm happy ecstatic the numbers came in as strong as they did.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
8. Benghazi! Benghazi! Death spiral, cook-the-books...
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:29 AM
Apr 2014

Squawk! Squawk!!


Polly wants a "distraction-cracker"!!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. K & R
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:52 AM
Apr 2014

corporate media sorta admits to the sorta numbers, BUT what ummm what if . . bullshit is kicking in.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
16. Since this is the count from the exchange,
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 02:30 AM
Apr 2014

very few if any. "Homeless" sign-ups would probably be in the Medicaid expansion.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
21. The Homeless (who deserve insurance too) are in the 14.6-22.1 Million number
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 06:41 AM
Apr 2014

not the 7 million number.



http://acasignups.net/


^snip^


The Actual Numbers: 14.6 - 22.1 Million

by Charles Gaba on Tue, 04/01/2014 - 12:58am

7.08 Million Exchange-based QHPs (estimate)
+ 71,000 SHOP QHPs
+ 9.0 Million total OFF-Exchange QHPs (estimate from the Rand Corp.)
+ 4.71 Million New "Strict Expansion" Medicaid enrollees
+ 1.80 Million New "Woodworker" Medicaid enrollees (estimate)
+ 3.10 Million 19-26 Year Olds on their Parent's Plans (estimate)
- 3.70 Million Cancelled Non-Compliant Policies

(see? I told you I'd subtract these once I knew the total number of off-exchange QHPs!)

= appx. 22.1 Million People (at the high end) or 14.6 Million (at the low end)




Have you not been paying attention?



Edit to add: Medicaid enrollment does not stop. This deadline is only for private insurance policies. Homeless people can still gain insurance by signing up for Medicaid if they have not already.







delrem

(9,688 posts)
25. Right, I wasn't paying attention
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 12:54 PM
Apr 2014

Wasn't paying attention to the fact that low number (7 million) was only for "Marketplace purchases" and didn't account for "direct purchases" (even when the people fall into the same risk groups) or, I suppose, medicaid enrollments.

But even 18 million (splitting the difference) is a low number compared to the general population and I don't see how it can account for the very poor and/or homeless...

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
27. add ~10 million for the SCHIPS expansion
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:18 PM
Apr 2014

which was passed when we had control of both houses of congress and signed into law by Pres. Obama.


Then add the fact that employer based health care is now required by every company with more than 49 employees (edit to add: working over 30 hours a week).


The estimate for uninsured varied, but 42 million was a reasonable average of the estimates (if memory serves). I dare say that the number of uninsured has been cut in half since President Obama was elected.


Sure, if you want to compare it to over 300 million it doesn't seem like much. That isn't fair though. Most people had insurance already. When talking about newly covered individuals, the people who already had insurance are not part of that narrowly focused conversation.


jeff47

(26,549 posts)
29. You're comparing sign-ups to population.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:22 PM
Apr 2014

Sign-ups only cover people who newly enter that insurance program. So it doesn't cover the people who were already on Medicaid, for example.

Additionally, you're leaving out other insurance programs. Medicare covers about 50M people. VA covers another large group of people. And there's also the very large number of people who get employer-based insurance - that alone covers the majority of the 315M. For now.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
30. It's too early for the "all or nothing" meme.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:26 PM
Apr 2014

It's only been going a few months and it's hitting its target.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
20. Repubbies going to have their diapers in a stinky twist today
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 06:40 AM
Apr 2014

The Republicons just hate it when something good happens for Americans.

Spazito

(50,326 posts)
28. Excellent news!
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:19 PM
Apr 2014

I was very hopeful this would be the case given the tremendous uptick in the number of signups over the last 4-5 days.

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