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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 10:33 AM Apr 2014

Bryan York: If ObamaCare Benefits You, You Don't Exist

If ObamaCare Benefits You, You Don't Exist
by BooMan
Tue Apr 1st, 2014 at 12:43:44 AM EST

According to Byron York, if you are getting Medicaid benefits or you are 26 years or younger and getting coverage on your parents' health insurance plan, you simply do not exist. There are an estimated seven and a half million people in this country that fall into one of those two categories and now have access to health care that they would not have enjoyed if John McCain had won the 2008 election, but they don't count.

The (Los Angeles])Times says the numbers break down like this: 4.5 million previously uninsured people are now on Medicaid; 3 million previously uninsured young people are now covered because of a provision that allows them to stay on their parents' policies until age 26; and 2 million previously uninsured people have purchased coverage on the Obamacare exchanges. In all, it is "the largest expansion in health coverage in America in half a century," according to the Times...
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obamacare-uninsured-national-20140331,0,5472960.story?page=1#axzz2xYDV8HQV

...The part where Democrats essentially blew up the health care markets, imposed the individual mandate, and caused premiums to rise and deductibles to skyrocket? That hasn't been such a success. If the Times number are correct, all of that -- placing new burdens of higher costs and narrower choices on millions of Americans, in addition to setting the stage for coming changes in employer-based coverage -- has resulted in two million of the previously uninsured gaining coverage.


Let me explain the logical error here, in case it isn't immediately obvious. Byron York says in the first paragraph that 9.5 million people now have health insurance that they would not otherwise have. In his the second paragraph he says that two million people now have health insurance that they would otherwise not have.

How did he subtract 7.5 million people? He refused to acknowledge that they actually exist.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2014/4/1/04344/96289
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Bryan York: If ObamaCare Benefits You, You Don't Exist (Original Post) kpete Apr 2014 OP
Because the WH and HHS do not provide the number of people newly insured. Mass Apr 2014 #1
This is the new meme ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #2

Mass

(27,315 posts)
1. Because the WH and HHS do not provide the number of people newly insured.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 11:10 AM
Apr 2014

These numbers are not available (nobody asked people who registered on Medicaid, the exchange, or their parents' insurance what their previous status was- For example, people in MA who were on the exchange or Medicaid had to reregister, and they are counted in these numbers). In addition, people who registered on the exchange include a certain number of people who had a private insurance which was cancelled by the company or that they did not like).

All you know is how many people signed up on the exchange or on registered for Medicaid.

So, the GOP has been contesting the WH numbers on this basis. 7.5 M is certainly way too high, but nobody knows what the real number is (and nobody will know until many months now). So, expect a lot of these EXAGGERATED complaints from people who do not like the law.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
2. This is the new meme
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 11:35 AM
Apr 2014

The publisher of some local rag came out of his hole to do an op-ed piece declaring 5 million people want a hand out and "real Muricans" will never be a part of it.

Fuck these assholes.

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