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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Rude Pundit: U.N. Climate Panel: "We're Fucked. Hello? Is Anyone Listening? We. Are. Fucked."
When I said I was taking a break from DU last night, I'd forgotten that I promised meegbear I'd do the Rude One Posts for him while he's on vacation...so this isn't me...I'm not here...this is not actually happening... - not wrpYou wanna shit yourself on a Tuesday? Just look at what the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said it has "high" or "very high" confidence will happen or is happening as a result of the world's governments being filled with greedy motherfuckers who are doing nearly nothing to deal with the causes of global climate change:
"Impacts from recent climate-related extremes, such as heat waves, droughts, floods, cyclones, and wildfires, reveal significant vulnerability and exposure of some ecosystems and many human systems to current climate variability." That scary sentence was given with very high confidence. It's followed by this scary sentence: "For countries at all levels of development, these impacts are consistent with a significant lack of preparedness for current climate variability in some sectors." You get it? We're not prepared for what's going on, let alone for what's coming. That's because too many of our putative leaders get their science from the Bible and Rush Limbaugh, not necessarily in that order.
At best, the report says, the globe is at the beginning of adaptation to a new reality. It's fascinating that, while pretty much every other continent is moving ahead with planning for the fucked new world, "in North America, governments are engaging in incremental adaptation assessment and planning, particularly at the municipal level." So while Asia is "mainstreaming climate adaptation action into subnational development planning, early warning systems, integrated water resources management, agroforestry, and coastal reforestation of mangroves," we're sitting on our assessing asses and hoping Jesus bails us out at the last second like Bruce Willis swinging in on a firehose.
Let's just catalog the horrors occurring now due to climate change, shall we?
Glaciers shrinking? High confidence. Animal and plant extinctions? High confidence. Food insecurity? Reduction in crop yields? Higher food prices? High confidence. Disruption of food and water supplies? Very high confidence.
And, hey, here's some shit that's probably gonna occur (remember: "high" or "very high" confidence) at some point, maybe even in our lifetimes, so no weaseling out and passing it on to the kids:
"A large fraction of both terrestrial and freshwater species faces increased extinction risk under projected climate change during and beyond the 21st century, especially as climate change interacts with other stressors, such as habitat modification, over-exploitation, pollution, and invasive species." That's a rich gumbo of ways we're dicking over nature until nature decides to bite us hard on our fat asses.
"Due to sea-level rise projected throughout the 21st century and beyond, coastal systems and low-lying areas will increasingly experience adverse impacts such as submergence, coastal flooding, and coastal erosion." Submergence? That means, um, underwater. It doesn't matter how many guns you own, Florida. You can't stand your ground against the fuckin' ocean.
"All aspects of food security are potentially affected by climate change, including food access, utilization, and price stability...Heat stress, extreme precipitation, inland and coastal flooding, landslides, air pollution, drought, and water scarcity pose risks in urban areas for people, assets, economies, and ecosystems." These two together pretty much mean we're gonna be eating each other by the end of the century, no zombie apocalypse needed.
And then there's the disease and starvation and death: "Until mid-century, projected climate change will impact human health mainly by exacerbating health problems that already exist. Throughout the 21st century, climate change is expected to lead to increases in ill-health in many regions and especially in developing countries with low income, as compared to a baseline without climate change. Examples include greater likelihood of injury, disease, and death due to more intense heat waves and fires; increased likelihood of under-nutrition resulting from diminished food production in poor regions; risks from lost work capacity and reduced labor productivity in vulnerable populations; and increased risks from food- and water-borne diseases."
Let us say, and why not, that you're playing on some train tracks in the dark with another person. You hear a train horn in the distance. You might say, "Hey, we should step off these tracks." The other person says, "That train is so far away. Who cares?" So you stay until you hear the horn again, quite a bit closer. You say, "That's close enough. C'mon, we can play elsewhere." But the other person says, "We're not going anywhere. That train is probably not even coming this way." Then you see the front light of the train and the tracks are vibrating. "That's it," you say. "We're leaving." The other person scoffs, "No, I know all about this train. It's gonna switch tracks right up there" and points to where you don't see any other tracks or switches. "In fact," the other person says, "I'm so sure that I'm going to tie us to the track just to prove I'm right." You respond, "What the fuck? How about we step off the track and see if I'm right?" The other one says, "Because then we'd stop playing" and ties you both up so you can see if you get run over by the quickly approaching train that is obviously on your track.
That's not a terrible analogy, but it's incomplete. Let's add this: To distract you from even thinking about or talking about the train, the other person takes out an iPhone and turns on CNN where you see absolutely nothing about the train, only about floating plastic bits in the ocean and a missing plane. Ahh. Now you won't even notice when the locomotive wipes you the fuck out.
Compared to every other minor story or internet meme covered by our media, the IPCC report is pretty much a tree falling in a forest where it might make a sound, but everything around it is extinct, so it can't be heard.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/04/un-climate-panel-were-fucked-hello-is.html
malaise
(268,993 posts)Love me some Rudie
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)when they are practically mandated to not give a fuck about climate change because giving a fuck would hurt their shareholders. More DU-centric, we argue about whether Snowden is a hero or asshole, and what happened to his girlfriend.
Maybe the government knows how fucked we are but doesn't want it getting out and causing a panic. So instead, they divert our attention to the deficit, or food stamps, or some other such thing that, by comparison, doesn't matter a shit. how long will that go on until people say, wait a minute, this is really fucked up and we gotta do something about it?
Yeah, go back to watching Friends.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)There are times when I think the human race has survived despite itself.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
I read that somewhere.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)...filled with them.
"It snowed yesterday! See, the World isn't warmin'!!! Duh!"
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)...so I'm going to give this another kick.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)in a long while.
maindawg
(1,151 posts)We have been witness to man inhumanity toward man.We know that we are very cruel and even vengeful creatures. We have tortured one another in every conceivable way. We have dominated the weak for centuries, eons. We have eliminated entire cultures, caused extinction of species we never even discovered and used this planet for our purposes without rest for thousands of years.We literally cut down every tree in Europe by 1500 ad.
We are monsters. Because our ability to use our superior brain function is limited.
We know the limit. Its science. We know how to bend the will of a population through language techniques. Mind control is a science that we have developed to the point that using mass media, it is possible to achieve the result of a populace whom are completely fooled. Completely convinced of a falsehood.
To set out to achieve these goals is evil. It is legal though, due to the deregulation and elimination of protections against exactly these crimes
Mans inhumanity toward man.
Now we are threatening the very planet we live on. While radioactivity is leaking into the pacific ocean , no one cares. The nations of the world are ignoring the 5 alarm disaster that is unfolding and the country of Japan does not even seem to care. Am I missing something?
Monsanto is hell bent to own the entire worlds food, they are recklessly killing every thing in their path. Leaving a trail of destruction.
Can you imagine a world with no fish,no clean water, just monsanto's magic seeds, and lots of cameras.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)How do you feel about the report which is linked to within the rant?
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)The swearing means little to me other than it being an emotional expression most relate to. It's the Rude Pundits schtick.
hatrack
(59,585 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)and your response is "foul language"?
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Why do you think my opinion is so funny?
And yes i do believe in man made climate change.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)the polar ice caps are melting, Greenland is falling into the ocean, we are spewing toxic pollutants into the air, into the ground and into our water supply, and we are 60 years ahead of the absolute worst case scenario that climate change scientists could come up with 5 years ago.
And your worry is The RUDE Pundit dropped an "F" bomb.
Sorry dude, sometimes Fucked is the only word that fits. Especially when talking about climate change gets, at best, a quick glance and then it's back to ponies, haters, and Snowden.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Two potential response paths can address the risks posed by climate change: mitigation and adaptation. Mitigation acts to reduce the magnitude of future climate change, and adaptation acts to adjust to the new conditions or moderate their impacts. Mitigation efforts include reducing GHG-emitting activities or developing additional GHG capture systems (such as tree-planting); these efforts are the focus of this CAP. Adaptation actions include limiting vulnerability to climate-change impacts through various measures, while not necessarily dealing with the underlying cause of those impacts. Adaptation actions can also act to mitigate emissions, but that is not their primary intent (Figure 1.2). Efforts to help the Water Authority adapt to future impacts of climate change were addressed in the Water Authoritys 2010 Urban Water Management Plan (2010 UWMP); the purpose of this CAP is to reduce GHG emissions.
http://www.sdcwa.org/sites/default/files/files/master-plan-docs/06_CAP_w_appendices.pdf
I won't even bother where I actually quoted this. But this is from a government Master Plan.
rudolph the red
(666 posts)If communities are accepting the facts and working to help.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)it takes a lot of effort for media, any media, to run this. Trust me on this.
American media is still pretty much in not covering this shit mode.
My mom lives in Mexico City. They had a hail storm (actually two, in 24 hours) that paralyzed large tracts of the city. I posted from there as the first one was ending. Of course a few here question that since well, CNN never had footage of that, and when I posted Televisa's footage, it was not reliable... just the BBC of Mexico, but it is not reliable because it is not on MSNBC. (That is the racism we have here right under the surface)
Imagine this from the National Weather Service, because this is exactly what happened down there. The equivalent head of NOAA came on the tv and radio, it was a presser that every local news media ran, and explained what happened, and why. Hell, even CNN en Espanol played along. This man, with a PhD in meteorology, also blamed climactic change for the it has been undeniable for now three decades, climate change in Mexico.
That is the kind of shit we need. Not the storms, the head of NOAA giving a national presser and the media not trying to give time to flat earthers. In fact, flat earthers are not even given the time of day down there. In the meantime Norm Coleman (a well known climate change denier and general crank) is the weatherman at channel nine (KUSI) here in San Diego.
I like to compare and contrast and what I see here I don't like.
Soylent Brice
(8,308 posts)fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
Oh shit, now I've ruined our chances of people waking up to the harsh realities of climate change.
Gee golly.
Shucks, I'm sorry.
Just in case:
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)If you ask me that is way the OP used fuck not once but two times on the front page just to look trashy.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:53 PM - Edit history (3)
If things go the way predicted, "trashy" will be the least of your concerns.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)fucking no.
Duval
(4,280 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Well fuck me.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)Go Rude. You're my inspiration.
I bet the person offended would watch Carlin, Maher and Rock and say "that's not funny. He said fuck. How amateurish!"
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)n/t
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stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)And It still looks trashy.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)it will fall on deaf ears.
You must be a trip at parties.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)It's been there since DU was established.
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)so are many other species.
hatrack
(59,585 posts)They can migrate, or switch food sources (or keep going up until they run out of mountain). That's about it.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)is where we are. 60 years ahead of The. Worst. Case. Scenario.
Yet deniers are still treated like they have a rational point of view.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)nope, why do that? It might be inconvenient.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)niyad
(113,302 posts)what is that old comment about what to do in case of nuclear war--bend over and kiss your *** goodbye.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)have and will sacrifice their environment for economic advancement to pull themselves out of the vicious cycle of poverty. . .and wealthy countries (USA) will do their best to skirt any law that cuts into the profits.
There has been no sustainability training or discussion. The Earth is an infinite resource.
Again, states really need to require a basic physical and human geography class as part of the humanities curriculum. However, that class (the one I teach) would not sit well with people who think climate change is a hoax.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I'll stick with Andrew Revkin and other *actual* legitimate commentators, thanks.
Out of Time Man
(141 posts)...as well as many other factors, cause me to be deeply disturbed and frightened by the future.
As it is currently painted, the future looks bleak. I can only hope that humanity collectively gets its act together, and we come together as a species instead of tearing each other apart.
polichick
(37,152 posts)politicians who continue to whore for corporations instead of looking out for our children continue to be rewarded in this totally fucked up country.
hatrack
(59,585 posts)Thank you, Will - and Meegbear, enjoy your vacation!
Autumn
(45,079 posts)taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)and apparently don't give two shits about greenhouse gas emissions.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Name them.
I'll wait.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)I live in Texas where some people actually need an F-150 for their land, but living here in suburbland, I can't tell you how many halfwits drive an F-150 that have condo's and apartments and own no land what so ever.
geardaddy
(24,929 posts)Thanks for subbing for Meegbear.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)"So while Asia is "mainstreaming climate adaptation action into subnational development planning, early warning systems, integrated water resources management, agroforestry, and coastal reforestation of mangroves,"
China Is Building a "Coal Base" the Size of LA
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/theres-a-coal-base-in-china-the-size-of-la
and...
in my opinion, he gives the climate denialists the benefit of the doubt when he uses the "playing on train tracks" metaphor.
That conversation wouldn't have even taken place. It would have gone like this instead...
Person #1: holy shit, did you hear that train whistle? there's a train coming, we better get off the tracks!!
Person #2: I don't believe in trains.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)calimary
(81,261 posts)"When the last tree is felled, JEEEEEEsus will come back!" So sayeth james watt, reagan's God-forsaken choice for "interior secretary."
Don't you guys get it? Our Lord Jesus is actually not so much our Savior as He is a Cosmic Custodian - "Jove's Janitor," if you will - and we can expect Him to return in glory with a heavenly mop and bucket to clean up the big mess we reckless, thoughtless, selfish humans have created all over this planet on land, sea, and air overhead. And maybe He'll wave His magic wand and just "fix" it all and restore it to good health so we don't even have to be careful with what the Creator created.
See? Easy-peasy! Just go ahead and don't even think about it. Just fuck everything up. Jesus is coming! He'll clean up our mess, for sure!