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Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:26 AM Apr 2014

New Captain America opens. Prepare for RW heads to explode.

This is going down the road of The Patriot Act is bad. Mark my words. And the RW ain't going to like it. Make some popcorn and get ready for the show (the movie AND the backlash). What will make it especially fun is that they are going to have to criticize the Captain Frickin' America. The cognitive dissonance will be delicious.

Edited to add: Review from Nerdist that touches on some of what will make the RW looneys mad).

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New Captain America opens. Prepare for RW heads to explode. (Original Post) Goblinmonger Apr 2014 OP
... Fumesucker Apr 2014 #1
I saw it already... it was very well done. DCBob Apr 2014 #2
So Fox News will have an aneurysm, then. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #4
yes. see it in the theater if you can. DCBob Apr 2014 #5
See it. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #14
That makes it a see, then. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #15
Well, stay for the post credits ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #18
Please be Spider-Woman. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #20
Yeah, me too ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #21
Looking forward to it Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #3
Maybe. They have a way of disconnecting from the real meaning of things. Like "Born in the USA." Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2014 #6
92%? Wow, haven't seen a RT score like that since The Dark Knight. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #7
Lego Movie opened with a RT score of 98%. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #9
Yea, I heard the plot is good, but I find the lead actor to be very bland quinnox Apr 2014 #8
You know you're old when your first thought is... pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #10
In the mythology of Captain America, that still makes you young Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #13
Oh, I've GOT a helmet! 11 Bravo Apr 2014 #17
Could be worse TlalocW Apr 2014 #22
On the other hand Cirque du So-What Apr 2014 #11
They're still trying to get over that Nick Fury is black ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #12
I dunno. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #16
If your characterization of the film is true whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #19
I doubt it. n/t FSogol Apr 2014 #23
Captain America Robbins Apr 2014 #24
I actually think it takes a stab at the current admin Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #25
As far as superheros are concerned, Captain America is pretty crappy. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #26
"Captain America: ..." Is About Obama's Terror-Suspect Kill List, Say the Film's Directors PoliticAverse Apr 2014 #27
I think both sides will see what they want to see. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #28

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
2. I saw it already... it was very well done.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:34 AM
Apr 2014

The MIC out of control with only Captain America to save us. Yeah.. the looney RWingers might take it personal.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
4. So Fox News will have an aneurysm, then.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:37 AM
Apr 2014

Is it worth seeing in the theatre? I'm a huge Marvel comic fan, but Captain America is not at the top of the list (I do read several of the Avenger comics so I read stuff with Captain America). Thor is my homeboy so I saw that opening night.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
14. See it.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:13 PM
Apr 2014

I was not a fan of the first CA movie, but this one places third for me in the Marvel series behind the first Iron Man and Avengers now. And I liked Thor 2 The Dark World and placed it third until last night.

Lots of Black Widow kicking ass and the Falcon has real potential. Plus a ton of SHIELD back story revealed as you probably gathered from the article.

I would advise not seeing it in 3D. The action scenes are just too fast for it.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
15. That makes it a see, then.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:27 PM
Apr 2014

I would order first Iron Man, Thor 2 (Thor geek), and then Avengers. Loved the silver comic feel of the Thor 2 plot line. And I'm a sucker for Lady Sif.

I'm torn on Black Widow. I like her but it seems like there are more higher level Avengers they could develop (I know why she's in there--I'm not stupid).

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
18. Well, stay for the post credits
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:33 PM
Apr 2014

The next potential female Avenger turns up.

I really feel like a Black Widow stand alone is going to happen. Maybe use Hawkeye in it as the secondary hero like she is in this one. There's a sight gag at one point in the film that tips off more of their relationship.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
20. Please be Spider-Woman.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:36 PM
Apr 2014

Please be Spider-Woman. Please be Spider-Woman. Please be Spider-Woman.

I'd be happy with She-Hulk, too. Somebody sassy.

I am amazed at the people that leave before the end credits at a Marvel film.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
21. Yeah, me too
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:40 PM
Apr 2014

I even stay for the end END credits sequence, which is often worthless comedy. This time it's slightly more dramatic, though not that revealing.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,835 posts)
6. Maybe. They have a way of disconnecting from the real meaning of things. Like "Born in the USA."
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:40 AM
Apr 2014

As long as it's got lots of flags and shit blowing up they'll walk out of the theater going 'America, Fuck Yeah!!'

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
8. Yea, I heard the plot is good, but I find the lead actor to be very bland
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:52 AM
Apr 2014

in the previews. Kind of kills it for me.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
10. You know you're old when your first thought is...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:58 AM
Apr 2014

Peter Fonda ("Captain America&quot and Jack Nicholson in 'Easy Rider'


 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
13. In the mythology of Captain America, that still makes you young
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:10 PM
Apr 2014

Captain America Comics #1, March 1941

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
11. On the other hand
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:01 PM
Apr 2014

the plot involves a government conspiracy (lest we forget, the big, bad gummint is currently headed by an Islamic Kenyan commie, yunno), so the RWNJs may well identify with Captain America et al. If this had come out during the years when Commander Cokespoon was in office, the reaction may well have been different.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
16. I dunno.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:29 PM
Apr 2014

The Marvel Civil War series was predicated on the government forcing super-powered individuals to register themselves. The books depicted some Tea party-esque types screaming about super-powered people as an analogy for racial bigotry but most RWers sympathized with the anti-registration faction of the series seeing a stronger analogy in gun registration and government overreach.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
19. If your characterization of the film is true
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:34 PM
Apr 2014

look for quite a few hawkish, authoritarian DUers losing their shit too.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
24. Captain America
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:16 PM
Apr 2014

I am more a X-men fan.I call my favorate comcis X-Men,Spider-man and Batman.At times I can be critical of Marvel studios considering how much I disliked Iron Man 3 and my weak responses to Thor films but I consider WS to be best MS film beating the avengers and
First Iron man. It is miles away better than first cap film.

It takes jab at the government needs more to stop threats before they happen.

This Is Scarlett Johansson and Samuel L Jackson's best film In MS films.They In film alone will cause RW to go a bit crazy

Robert Redford's casting Is brillent and this Is throwback to 1970's thrillers. His casting was a coup.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
26. As far as superheros are concerned, Captain America is pretty crappy.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:43 PM
Apr 2014

Super strength and an adamantium shield?

Yawn.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
27. "Captain America: ..." Is About Obama's Terror-Suspect Kill List, Say the Film's Directors
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:45 PM
Apr 2014

There are currently no plans to screen Captain America: The Winter Soldier at the White House, as far as the film's directors have heard. But if it makes it to the White House family theater, President Obama would be watching one big-budget, action-packed, and Scarlett Johansson-starring critique of his controversial terror-suspect "kill list."

This isn't me reading things into a mainstream comic-book movie. It's what the directors themselves will tell you.

"[Marvel] said they wanted to make a political thriller," Joe Russo, who directed the film with his brother Anthony, tells Mother Jones. "So we said if you want to make a political thriller, all the great political thrillers have very current issues in them that reflect the anxiety of the audience...That gives it an immediacy, it makes it relevant. So [Anthony] and I just looked at the issues that were causing anxiety for us, because we read a lot and are politically inclined. And a lot of that stuff had to do with civil liberties issues, drone strikes, the president's kill list, preemptive technology"—all themes they worked into the film, working closely with screenwriters Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely.

Read the rest at: http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2014/04/captain-america-winter-soldier-obama-kill-list-politics-drones-nsa

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
28. I think both sides will see what they want to see.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:50 PM
Apr 2014

Some on the left like me, see a neocon conspiracy, whereas those on the right see a soshulist conspiracy.

Others think both sides are the same.

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