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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:54 PM Apr 2014

"Rapebait" Frat disbanded for promoting sexual violence.

After the email blew up the internet, Peterson offered a sincere-sounding mea culpa, saying that "rapebait" was a nickname his frat bros had given him and that joking about sexual assault is very, very wrong indeed. Georgia Tech put ΦKT on probation. Lesson learned, right?

Not really. According to GT's Technique, Peterson and his ilk carried right on acting like toddlers pumped full of testosterone after the incident last October, and after an investigation, the school's administration concluded that Phi Kappa Tau engaged in a "pattern of sexual violence that…suggests a deep-rooted culture within the fraternity that is obscene, indecent and endangers women" in addition to providing alcohol to underaged members, like, constantly (in their defense, isn't that kind of what every frat does w/r/t alcohol?) Included in the school's investigation were actual minutes from fraternity meetings and emails circulated around the frat, which included beaucoup imbibing and joking references to drug and alcohol abuse and rape.

But there was also plenty of anti-woman stuff in Phi Kappa Tau's culture. Here, for example, are the lyrics to a song that pledges were made to sing both during pledge week and at the frat's Christmas party (which was the most depressing party in the world, probably). Georgia Tech got hold of these because the boy geniuses at Phi Kappa Tau sent all of this over email, thus leaving an easy to follow digital trail for school officials.


http://jezebel.com/infamous-rapebait-frat-disbanded-for-being-entirely-t-1558252895?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


I'm not going to show the "jovial" rape songs they sang together,but it's seriously fucked up. Rape culture sucks.

TRIGGER WARNING:THERE ARE SONGS PERTAINING TO RAPE AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE IN THE ARTICLE.

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"Rapebait" Frat disbanded for promoting sexual violence. (Original Post) sufrommich Apr 2014 OP
Expel the lot of those assholes. MineralMan Apr 2014 #1
That is a great idea. nt sufrommich Apr 2014 #2
Can the degrees of the graduates for the last ten years be rescinded? Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #26
I don't know if there's a mechanism that would allow that, MineralMan Apr 2014 #29
Any "good old boys" network is inherently flawed. Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #32
That sounds Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #27
Well, the national organization has pulled their charter. MineralMan Apr 2014 #30
Good first step Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #31
It's a good first step. But not enough. riqster Apr 2014 #3
My guess is that this is the schools way of sufrommich Apr 2014 #4
My take as well. riqster Apr 2014 #12
The song is some of the most disgusting filth I've ever read. CrispyQ Apr 2014 #5
That's way I didn't post them. sufrommich Apr 2014 #6
Precisely. These aren't bawdy or even nasty, off-color songs deutsey Apr 2014 #18
So sick. Only a deranged psychopath could have come up with that. cui bono Apr 2014 #20
Not only sing it,but go on to join that frat! nt sufrommich Apr 2014 #22
I would like to see the names of those frat boys listed online undeterred Apr 2014 #7
This. CrispyQ Apr 2014 #10
Sexual predators list? under Dishonorable mention. Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #28
I wonder how long till it's claimed that even this does not indicate rape culture... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #8
I don't know,but I'm wondering if I should add sufrommich Apr 2014 #9
I think that would be a good idea... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #11
I added a warning. nt sufrommich Apr 2014 #14
K&R Solly Mack Apr 2014 #13
Wow, those lyrics are far, far, FAR worse than I expected. arcane1 Apr 2014 #15
I know. I caution DUers to take the sufrommich Apr 2014 #17
I was expecting something raunchy and crude arcane1 Apr 2014 #19
DU Rec Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #16
Good lord! I feel like I need a shower... a la izquierda Apr 2014 #21
While disbanding the frat is a good thing, what they really need to do is have mandatory cui bono Apr 2014 #23
Good to see universities are finally stepping up and revoking charters Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #24
Having been part of the greek system at my university, I can attest that nearly every fraternity Maedhros Apr 2014 #25
My daughter received a postcard about Greek exboyfil Apr 2014 #33
I have a hard time believing that every fraternity sufrommich Apr 2014 #34
I'm not proud of it, and deserve any lumps I take for it, Maedhros Apr 2014 #35
I hope things have changed since the 80s. Yeah, Reagan's sufrommich Apr 2014 #36

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
1. Expel the lot of those assholes.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:59 PM
Apr 2014

Shut down the frat house and turn the building into a women's shelter, and make the national fraternity pay for all of the costs.

Enough of this crap!

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
26. Can the degrees of the graduates for the last ten years be rescinded?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:43 PM
Apr 2014

The current generation is a legacy of the older generations.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
29. I don't know if there's a mechanism that would allow that,
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:45 PM
Apr 2014

but I'd be in favor of it.

I don't like frats, in general, as you might be able to guess.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
32. Any "good old boys" network is inherently flawed.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:52 PM
Apr 2014

They can do good, but too many examples of bad behavior exist to give any of them a free pass.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
27. That sounds
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:45 PM
Apr 2014

about exactly what SHOULD happen. I won't hold my breath for it to actually happen, though.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
30. Well, the national organization has pulled their charter.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:47 PM
Apr 2014

I learned that on its website. That's something. But, it may be that the other chapters are doing similar things, but haven't been outed for it yet.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
3. It's a good first step. But not enough.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:07 PM
Apr 2014

The perps need to suffer some sort of shame, pain, and humiliation: something that fucks their shit up to a sufficient degree that they are forced to look at themselves and realize what scum the lot of them are.

Otherwise, they will still be potential or actual sexual predators and violent criminals.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
5. The song is some of the most disgusting filth I've ever read.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:10 PM
Apr 2014


Shame on any college that knows about stuff like this & doesn't do anything about it.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
18. Precisely. These aren't bawdy or even nasty, off-color songs
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:40 PM
Apr 2014

They're sick. I had no idea sociopaths had their own frat.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
20. So sick. Only a deranged psychopath could have come up with that.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:53 PM
Apr 2014

Anyone who would willingly sing that needs serious help.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
7. I would like to see the names of those frat boys listed online
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:11 PM
Apr 2014

where they cannot be deleted so that every potential employer and every potential girlfriend they ever have can see what kind of evil they thought was fun in their college years.

Ohio Joe

(21,755 posts)
8. I wonder how long till it's claimed that even this does not indicate rape culture...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:11 PM
Apr 2014

You know... 'It's just frat boys having fun'... 'It's an isolated incident'... 'Hey, eventually something was done'... And on and on...

We all know the denial and excuses will come.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
9. I don't know,but I'm wondering if I should add
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:16 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:48 PM - Edit history (1)

a trigger warning because of the songs included in the article? I think I will.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
15. Wow, those lyrics are far, far, FAR worse than I expected.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:34 PM
Apr 2014

I made it about halfway through and had to stop

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
19. I was expecting something raunchy and crude
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:51 PM
Apr 2014

But that's some psycho shit that would creep out de Sade himself!

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
23. While disbanding the frat is a good thing, what they really need to do is have mandatory
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:00 PM
Apr 2014

counseling workshops for these young men to - I was going to say teach them but I think it's already at the point of rehabilitating them - rehabilitate them and teach them what a healthy relationship is and that women are people. Like an anger management class but much more than that.

It's at the point where every campus should have a mandatory class on this sort of thing to be taken the first year, preferably the first quarter/semester.

Who raises people like this???

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
24. Good to see universities are finally stepping up and revoking charters
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:02 PM
Apr 2014

after awhile the usual suspension+apology doesn't cut it anymore....

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
25. Having been part of the greek system at my university, I can attest that nearly every fraternity
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:30 PM
Apr 2014

has songs like that. Sororities also. They are an exercise in offensiveness for offensiveness' sake, sort of like lowbrow juvenile misogynistic performance art. College-aged people often lack the awareness to realize exactly how crass they are.

The culture that creates this kind of insensitivity needs to be eliminated. Over time, I think it will be, but old cultures die hard.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
33. My daughter received a postcard about Greek
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:24 PM
Apr 2014

Day (recruiting effort) for the school she will be attending in August. We promptly threw it in the circular file.

What happened when a notorious fraternity was finally closed down on campus at our other large university was that they just moved off campus and retained the living arrangement. I suspect the same will happen in this case.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
34. I have a hard time believing that every fraternity
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:31 PM
Apr 2014

has songs like that and an even harder time imagining there are sororities gleefully singing songs about rape. Did you see the songs in the article? They're psychotic.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
35. I'm not proud of it, and deserve any lumps I take for it,
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:41 PM
Apr 2014

but we sang songs just as bad. During Rush Week I visited nearly every fraternity on campus and, while I can't assert that every single one also had similar material in their repertoire, nearly all of them did. This was in the 80's during Ronnie's "Morning in America", so hopefully that kind of shit has diminished over time.

Granted, the sorority songs were more "bawdy" than rape-themed, but were still a bit squirm-inducing.

Maybe my campus was an exception?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
36. I hope things have changed since the 80s. Yeah, Reagan's
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:35 PM
Apr 2014

"Morning in America" was practically an invitation to be an as whole.I hated the 80s.

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