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Two Thirds of Seniors ... (Original Post) MindMover Apr 2014 OP
and watching Fox News lame54 Apr 2014 #1
Not all of us ..... Grammy23 Apr 2014 #2
I'm one of 'us.' marew Apr 2014 #3
Yep, I'm here too. juajen Apr 2014 #69
Another us... pipi_k Apr 2014 #7
Here's another one... Stellar Apr 2014 #26
Us, too. And we ALWAYS vote. Shrike47 Apr 2014 #29
Three here and one of us is 93 proReality Apr 2014 #49
Welcome to SS and Medicare! classof56 Apr 2014 #12
I believe Ryan's "plan" gradually introduces vouchers-depending on age. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #17
I just became one of "Us". femmocrat Apr 2014 #36
Not liberal seniors. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #5
Categorizing all Seniors as Right Wing Conservatives is another Right Wing meme. alberg Apr 2014 #11
agreed alberg. i hate that too. roguevalley Apr 2014 #23
Not this... onyourleft Apr 2014 #13
none of my friends watch fox, lame DrDan Apr 2014 #16
Apparently you don't understand the demographic of DU.. pipoman Apr 2014 #18
which is another reason the president should not propose cuts to social security Doctor_J Apr 2014 #21
Most older Boomers aren't. Warpy Apr 2014 #27
!!!!! this BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #67
but - about the people you don't know... lame54 Apr 2014 #73
uck, that face.... yecch BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #75
Every single senior I know watches Fox News except for one of my sisters. Elwood P Dowd Apr 2014 #30
I am one senior of 75 years old who does not watch Fox and never did. n/t RebelOne Apr 2014 #74
That was a very lame comment . . . Journeyman Apr 2014 #43
Yep, McCain and Romney easily took the senior demographic n/t taught_me_patience Apr 2014 #47
That's a myth that needs to die. Blue_In_AK Apr 2014 #48
What a ridiculous and specious statement. raven mad Apr 2014 #70
Don't worry... lame54 Apr 2014 #72
The problem is not just Fox... freebrew Apr 2014 #71
While I rely on it for some of my income, I have friends who rely on it for all of their income hollysmom Apr 2014 #4
Give me a few more years before I retire Curmudgeoness Apr 2014 #34
I am in the same boat, I said the hell with it I want to see things so I took a couple trips doc03 Apr 2014 #40
is there a travel group here? maybe we can form one and make our own trips. n/t hollysmom Apr 2014 #44
I'm in the same boat too, most of the time. I'm like you, I finally had to say the hell raccoon Apr 2014 #63
I do love Elizabeth Warren. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #6
Me neither. I view it as the single greatest ballyhoo Apr 2014 #14
I live in the DC metro area and since I was a teenager Samantha Apr 2014 #53
I will fight to the death to protect it, ma'm. And ballyhoo Apr 2014 #61
The damage done to Social Security by President Obama can NOT be undone. bvar22 Apr 2014 #19
I agree completely. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #20
Amen StoneCarver Apr 2014 #33
I can't imagine why you would be flamed. fleabiscuit Apr 2014 #51
fortunately chained CPI is dead in the water OKNancy Apr 2014 #55
They aren't middle class if they are relying on social security. That is poverty jtuck004 Apr 2014 #8
The rich think being middle class means owning a working refrigerator nt pragmatic_dem Apr 2014 #42
That belief invades the thinking of too many people, not just the rich, I'm afraid. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2014 #50
Social Security is most of my income.... llmart Apr 2014 #9
Yes, same here, and avoid Fox news like the plague. n/t RebelOne Apr 2014 #24
Too bad the rich don't give a shit. n/t DeSwiss Apr 2014 #10
Fuck the 1% BlueJac Apr 2014 #15
Pension? What's that? What's a "401k"? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #22
it's that safety net you used to have until your employer decided he wanted it back Doctor_J Apr 2014 #32
I'm surprised Crawford Texas is still there. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #37
Slash and burn the safety net. It's the "bi-partisan" (Third) way. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #25
If any changes are made to Social Security ... JEFF9K Apr 2014 #28
I thought I read at du that Warren is a member of the Fan Club Doctor_J Apr 2014 #31
Don't believe everything you read Curmudgeoness Apr 2014 #35
Yes, apparently Warren and Sanders looooove them some Third Way! BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #64
I wish those two got as much support from the WH as the WH gets from them. Doctor_J Apr 2014 #66
They aren't "sponsored" so they don't have to check with the owners before speaking BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #68
I get about 1/3 of my retirement income from SS but I doc03 Apr 2014 #38
As a society...... Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #39
This is all too true, losing SS income would be the total loss of income for many seniors. Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #41
If Social Security is 90 to 100% of your income, you are not merrily Apr 2014 #45
You might be if you are a couple who own a home with no mortgage. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #46
I'm one trying to survive on $750.00 a month SS . geretogo Apr 2014 #52
The Standard of Need, what you need to survive is $721 a month happyslug Apr 2014 #54
That is pretty much how my retirement is looking at this point Victor_c3 Apr 2014 #56
Sad. Very sad. Just shows the state of Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2014 #57
I'm 66 lillypaddle Apr 2014 #58
I'm worried about the trust funds madville Apr 2014 #59
"middle class"? I'd hardly call being on SS middle class. L0oniX Apr 2014 #60
well, if 2/3 of them depend on it, Doctor_J Apr 2014 #65
Interesting, though. The people who make policy ARE stashing their money offshore..... Smarmie Doofus Apr 2014 #62

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
2. Not all of us .....
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 03:26 PM
Apr 2014

Some of us would rather hear nails on a blackboard than be subjected to their lies and distortions. Yes, there are some who listen to that crap and believe it. But as one of the Baby Boomers who recently joined the ranks of those receiving Social Security and is on Medicare, I just had to speak up for the rest who still have some brain cells to rub together and figure out that Faux Noose is not good for Seniors and other living things. Wait and see what happens when the Seniors in love with Fox get a load of what Paul Ryan is trying to sell! He just might lose....again.

marew

(1,588 posts)
3. I'm one of 'us.'
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 03:35 PM
Apr 2014

Among my friends in my age bracket I do not know a single conservative. But maybe I just hang out with the right kinds of people.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
69. Yep, I'm here too.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:45 PM
Apr 2014

However, most of my seniorfriends are conservative; but, younger friends are almost all democrats, or libertarians.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
7. Another us...
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 03:58 PM
Apr 2014

Actually two of us over the age of 60 at my house who equate Fux News with toxic waste.

proReality

(1,628 posts)
49. Three here and one of us is 93
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:31 PM
Apr 2014

and we all vote in every election. Faux News is not allowed to be viewed in this house, even by house guests.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
12. Welcome to SS and Medicare!
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 05:14 PM
Apr 2014

I am one of those fortunate to be receiving both, and I never watch Faux Noose except for those clips occasionally featured by Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and the MSNBC programs I watch. They never fail to make me cringe--thank goodness for those who speak truth to power, and as Jon and Stephen, include some much-needed humor in the mix. A neighbor of mine watches only Faux, but as I tell her with a loving smile, "You know if that's your source of news, you're never gonna know the truth." She just smiles back and keeps watching. I don't discuss politics with her, it would only upset me and we're too old for fisticuffs. I now await her take on what the Ryan budget would do to us. 'Twill be interesting!

Blessings,
Another Grammy

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
17. I believe Ryan's "plan" gradually introduces vouchers-depending on age.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 05:49 PM
Apr 2014

That way he hopes to prevent a baby boomer uprising. I could be wrong on this. I find Ryan so disgusting that I cannot even read his proposal.

alberg

(412 posts)
11. Categorizing all Seniors as Right Wing Conservatives is another Right Wing meme.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 05:06 PM
Apr 2014

Most folks I know in this age bracket understand what's going on - our country subverted by the neo-liberal confusatives.

Gosh, it seems to me that Elizabeth Warren would make a really great President. Wouldn't it be terrific if she decided to run?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
21. which is another reason the president should not propose cuts to social security
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 07:49 PM
Apr 2014

any time, under any guise. The first reason is that it's despicable. In fact, one of his daily pronouncements should be, "Social security has never added one penny to the debt. It is probably the greatest program in the history of the nation. There will not be one single dollar cut while I am president". But that would make him a democrat, and he considers himself a republican.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
27. Most older Boomers aren't.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 08:22 PM
Apr 2014

They're working part time, dead end jobs so they can manage to survive things like auto repairs, health care copays, leaky roofs, and dead appliances.

SS might keep them from starving but it won't pay for property taxes, any insurance at all, or any of the calamities listed above.

If older Boomers managed to hang on until 66--or even 62--they're in slightly better shape since they didn't have to run through their retirement savings waiting for SS to kick in after the job let them go in their 50s because the MBA's corporate actuarial tables said they were no longer cost effective and besides they were making the place look shabby.

Most of my friends are planning to work as long as their bodies hold up.

The last thing they want to do in their short periods of leisure time is watch liars on Pox telling them what parasites they are.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
67. !!!!! this
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 12:15 PM
Apr 2014

It's just not right.


As for pox, the people i know of that are into that shit really vary as far as age goes.

lame54

(35,287 posts)
73. but - about the people you don't know...
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 02:38 PM
Apr 2014

not all seniors watch Fox News - but most Fox News viewers are seniors



BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
75. uck, that face.... yecch
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 04:09 PM
Apr 2014

Yeah, I don't doubt that.....I'm just thinking of some young fundies who think pox spews is jaysus's station.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
30. Every single senior I know watches Fox News except for one of my sisters.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 08:51 PM
Apr 2014

I am 66 and almost all of my friends in this age group watch that crap and believe every single lie they are told. They actually believe Obama destroyed Medicare with Obamacare and only repukes can save them from losing Social Security. They believe it was Obama, not Bush II, who started back the massive spending increases and deficits that Clinton had under control. The repukes have the messaging and propaganda down pat. Even Goebbels would envy that propaganda machine. All the mistakes and horrible policies of the Bush crowd have been forgotten, and its now all "Obama did it".

Those of you who say you don't know any seniors who watch Fox must live in dark blue areas.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
70. What a ridiculous and specious statement.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 02:05 PM
Apr 2014

I don't watch Faux at all. As a matter of fact, I don't have cable, at all. Your name says it all, lame.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
71. The problem is not just Fox...
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 02:24 PM
Apr 2014

it's all FAKE news from our M$M. I only get broadcast here, but national news is ALL bad. Local news is worse.

I usually only get real news from the interwebs.

SS is my only source of income. No one will hire older folks in this area. So I cashed in at 62 after getting fired at 57.
Only job I had was hefting 50# sacks at minimum wage. I lasted a year or so.




hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
4. While I rely on it for some of my income, I have friends who rely on it for all of their income
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 03:37 PM
Apr 2014

I knew I would get old and prepared, what I didn't know is that so many of my friends could not afford to do anything with me. I wanted to travel when I was older, but there is no one to travel with, I don't enjoy being a tourist alone, I love to share what I see.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
34. Give me a few more years before I retire
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 09:54 PM
Apr 2014

and I will gladly join you in travelling. I look forward to freedom.

doc03

(35,328 posts)
40. I am in the same boat, I said the hell with it I want to see things so I took a couple trips
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:19 PM
Apr 2014

myself with Caravan Tours and enjoyed them. Try it you meet people along the way
you may even meet someone else traveling alone and hit it off. Same as curmugen
I would join you too at least we could laugh at the Rethugs in the group.

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
63. I'm in the same boat too, most of the time. I'm like you, I finally had to say the hell
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:23 AM
Apr 2014

with it and sign up anyway.

Good to know some other people in the same boat!




Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
6. I do love Elizabeth Warren.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 03:42 PM
Apr 2014

And I will never forgive President Obama for his appointments to the Catfood Commission® or his Chained CPI proposal.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
14. Me neither. I view it as the single greatest
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 05:20 PM
Apr 2014

mistake by a Democrat President and feel certain it will lead to a cut in Social Security either in this next term or the one after that. Once the Republicans take over Congress, their troops will marshal using the new voting donation laws and they will corner the voting market. Once their ducks are in a row, they will begin the stealing in earnest. The seniors will fight back--many have guns. But they will lose and with no one to back them in a real fight--not one with emails and garish signs--the ones that might save them are the independents, who won't like the seniors being robbed will step in with their votes. But the damage will be done and it will take a Trotsky-like revolution to bring back sanity. You may or may not agree with me. That's okay. You may have missed the post this morning about the"emotional disconnect" of the Democrats. There is that, and also the lack of what I call verve. Also, they need to get behind that which affects all the people not just pockets of special groups. I love Elizabeth Warren too. I think she is the real thing. Alas, I have said that before though.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
53. I live in the DC metro area and since I was a teenager
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 02:04 AM
Apr 2014

not the least bit interested in Social Security or Medicare, I have known that that was Wall Street's biggest goal -- to get its hands on the Social Security funds. It has been an open secret for decades.

It is that reliable, steady steam of income it so covets. So it is going to be a real fight to keep the Republican party from privatizing Social Security.

Sam

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
61. I will fight to the death to protect it, ma'm. And
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:02 AM
Apr 2014

I hope the NSA sees this and sends the message upstream to the drone master. We are in a war, and it is just starting. When the enemy takes over in November, the war will get more vicious as the contemplative smile on the President's face turns first regretful and then mocking. And, hopefully, the real public starts to act emulating angry teamsters locked out of the workplace rather than teenagers having a camp-out. We have to win--defeat is not an option. Defeat means your parents die in disgrace while your children starve to death. Time to get real.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
19. The damage done to Social Security by President Obama can NOT be undone.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 06:42 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:37 AM - Edit history (1)

The cornerstone of the modern Democratic Party and previously inviolate 3rd Rail of Politics (touch it and you DIE) will forever more be just another Chip-On-the-Table,
and fair game in every future Budget negotiation until it is gone.
ONLY a Democratic President could cut the power to The 3rd Rail.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
20. I agree completely.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 06:50 PM
Apr 2014

I could elaborate on that answer but I don't wish to alienate even more DUers than I already have.

 

StoneCarver

(249 posts)
33. Amen
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 09:09 PM
Apr 2014

I voted for BO 2X, but he's a moderate republican -No doubt about it. I know I may get flamed. But who cares. The truth is the truth. What democratic president puts SS on the table for cuts? -Chained CPI. What democrat does that? I wish we had a real democrat like Elizabeth Warren to vote for as President. Both parties seem to be controlled by corporate wishes. The dems just feel more palatable. They at least "pretend" to care about the little people.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
51. I can't imagine why you would be flamed.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 12:57 AM
Apr 2014

"...he's a moderate republican..." is something he essentially said himself. Although he qualified it by saying republicans of a few years ago, I'd say not that many years ago. He was absolutely correct.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
55. fortunately chained CPI is dead in the water
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 04:50 AM
Apr 2014

It's not in this year's budget proposal by Obama and I doubt it ever will be.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. They aren't middle class if they are relying on social security. That is poverty
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 04:13 PM
Apr 2014

or so close as to be nearly indistinguishable.

Other than that she is dead on.


llmart

(15,536 posts)
9. Social Security is most of my income....
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 04:14 PM
Apr 2014

and most of my friends and family the same. Not one of us is a Republican.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. Pension? What's that? What's a "401k"?
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 07:58 PM
Apr 2014

Asks the latest generation of workers conditioned to respect their employers greed over their own ability to make a living.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
32. it's that safety net you used to have until your employer decided he wanted it back
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 08:57 PM
Apr 2014

In truth I am a little surprised a couple cities don't burn to the ground when these corrupt mayors and governors stole the money from the workers

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
31. I thought I read at du that Warren is a member of the Fan Club
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 08:53 PM
Apr 2014

If so she should not be making these libtard/pony/ideologue/unrealism/racist statements. And she doesn't understand how government works.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
68. They aren't "sponsored" so they don't have to check with the owners before speaking
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:06 PM
Apr 2014

A billion dollars ain't loose "change". (Yeah, I said it.)

doc03

(35,328 posts)
38. I get about 1/3 of my retirement income from SS but I
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:11 PM
Apr 2014

don't vote for Republicans or make a habit of watching Fox News.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
39. As a society......
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:13 PM
Apr 2014

we discard seniors, hope to push them from our lives.....

Other societies, such as those in Asia, value seniors, their lives, their wisdom, their life experience.

While I consider it irresponsible not to plan and save for retirement it is a fact. People live for the present...family, etc.....

So what do we as a society value? Do we leave our seniors choosing between eating pet food, paying their heating bills or buying their medications? That is heartless but that is the Ryan budget.

And now the Supremes say that money = speech with virtually no limits. That is a perversion.

If the idea is one man/woman, one vote then how is $1B in donations = $5 for the poor?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
41. This is all too true, losing SS income would be the total loss of income for many seniors.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:22 PM
Apr 2014

What is more disturbing is pensions is not part of our younger generations so many will be totally dependent on SSin the coming years. It needs to be enhanced not lowered. The pension amount is based on 35 years of income whether or not a person worked 35 years. If you work past 35 years the pension is based on the highesT 35 years. BTW, if you work for 30 years your amount will still be divided by 35 years. I am retired and working a minimal wage job, the money helps me to get by. On average SS is on average of $1200 a month, we sure are not getting rich. Watch some FOX mostly to be prepared for my RW friends lies, check out the information in order to correct their lies.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
45. If Social Security is 90 to 100% of your income, you are not
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:12 PM
Apr 2014

middle class.

When did being disabled or retirement age and poor become an unmentionable?

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
54. The Standard of Need, what you need to survive is $721 a month
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 02:38 AM
Apr 2014

In 1967 Congress set the Standard of Need, the amount one needs to survive. It is the bare minimum needed to survive. It has been adjusted to inflation every year since 1967. Conservative Economists claim the indexing has increased the amount to much, for index ignores technological changes, such as Computers replacing typewriters. On the other hand, these same conservative economist refuse to address the more the inflation raise in housing and medical costs since 1967 (And cited the drop in fuel prices till 2002 when it started its current upward spirl, you heard in 1997 that Gasoline was the lowest in real terms it had ever been when it hit bottom that year, matching the 25 cents a gallon Gasoline had been in the 1950s and early and middle 1960s, but nothing since 2002 and nothing that when gasoline prices hit today's prices it was the highest price for oil since the US Civil War).

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a program run by the Social Security Administration (SSA) to pay those people who can NOT work, but who is NOT entitled to Social Security (if if entailed to Social Security it is less then the SSI amount). SSI has always been set at the Standard of Need, which in 2014 is $721 a month. Many states supplement it, but any SSI one receives is reduced by any other income one gets. If the income is "Unearned" (i.e. NOT from employment, for example if someone gets a small amount of Social Security, then the $721 is reduced by that amount of money). If the money is "Earned" then the amount one receives from working is reduced by 1/3, then reduced the SSI amount dollar for dollar.

I bring up SSI, to show that your Social Security is barely over the SSI amount and as such barely enough to survive on. Since the 1960s, Welfare for Children. could also be that high, if a state was willing to pay 50% of the cost of such welfare payments. No state has ever taken up the Federal Government to pay 50% of Standard of Need ($721 per month in 2014) one could get on welfare if the State agreed to pay 50% of THE Standard of Need. My State welfare is set at $174 a month for one person (Which $87.50 from the State Government, which is match by $87.50 by the Federal Government) and is considered one of the more generous states when it comes to welfare.

My point is your income is LOW and everyone knows it. $750 is only $39 dollars over the Standard of Need. If you own your home and not making any payments except taxes, you are better then most people at that level of Income. I should note I suspect you are paying rent or a house payment, which means at least $225 is going for rent (if you are in public housing, such housing rent is restricted to 30% of your income or $225 per month). On the other hand if you are paying rent AND not in public housing, I live in a declining income area with declining population and as such you can get a "Decent" not great house for $350-400 a month. In areas of higher rents, I do not know how you can pay the rent. That is how little $750 is in reality, and I wish you luck for the numbers are NOT in your favor.

I wrote the above, more for other people on this thread then for your. $750 sounds like a lot to some people, tell you understand the cost of living. When I have clients talk to me about bankruptcy, one of the questions I asked them is how much do they spend on food each month. Most give me low guesses, and I have to point out, the Government has the policy that people spend $2 for Breakfast, $3 for Lunch and $5 for Supper, total $10 a day. Can people do cheaper? Yes, but it means buying and eating the cheapest food available. Thus $10 a day is about what it takes to eat per day. Add $225 for rent to $300 a month, that comes to $525 per month for Housing and food (if you are in public housing), that leave people on SSI less then $200 for anything else, including going to the Doctor, visiting friends, buying clothes etc. If you are NOT in public housing, there goes that $200 "surplus" for things like clothes and similar needed items. As I said above, I wish you luck, for at $750 a month you will need it.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
56. That is pretty much how my retirement is looking at this point
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 06:31 AM
Apr 2014

I'm 34 and I support a wife and two kids off of my income. There is no way I can afford to start saving for my retirement at any point in the near future. I pretty much know that social security and the disability payment I receive from the vA are the only things I'm going to have by then.

My plan is to at least have a house bought and paid off so I don't have to worry about that part and then subsist on the rest. Sadly, I know I'm probably going to be better off than most in part because I'm a disabled veteran.

Now that's a plan for the youth of today. Go fight a bullshit war, get fucked up in the head, and then be set for the rest of your life just like me!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
57. Sad. Very sad. Just shows the state of
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 06:52 AM
Apr 2014

our economy - and how f'd up it is. Pensions are a thing of the past

madville

(7,410 posts)
59. I'm worried about the trust funds
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 09:43 AM
Apr 2014

Nobody is talking about the SSDI trust fund being exhausted in 2016. If it runs dry there is a mechanism which kicks in enabling SSDI to dip into the larger OASDI trust fund which is already projected to be exhausted in 2032.

If SSDI starts drawing from the OASDI fund all funds will be exhausted by 2027, that's the most recent number I recall from the last SSA trustee report I read.

They are going to have to increase revenue some how or make cuts. They need to raise/eliminate the contribution cap on the wealthy for starters.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
65. well, if 2/3 of them depend on it,
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:51 AM
Apr 2014

that would include the middle, no? I think the semantics are correct. It's like when the Limbeciles claim that FDR was "far more liberal than the electorate when he got elected". Er, no, 60% of the Americans voted for him, so he did by definition appeal to the center.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
62. Interesting, though. The people who make policy ARE stashing their money offshore.....
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:22 AM
Apr 2014

and buying vacation property.

It's classic projection. They think that since that's what THEY'D do.... that's what average people would do.... and are doing.

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