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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think Sen. Bernie Sanders should run for the Democratic Party nomination for President?
Sen. Sanders has taken a trip to New Hampshire in just the past week to explore the possibility of entering the race for the Democratic Party nomination for President. Yes, we ALL know that he is currently an independent who caucuses and supports the national Democratic Party. So, of course he would have to officially join the Democratic Party to do that. But he wouldn't be going to New Hampshire - the first major partisan primary in the nation to explore an independent race or seek the Green Party nomination or run as Republican, now would he?
This is not a question of whether you would personally support him in the contest for the Democratic Party nomination or think he has good chance of winning - it is a question of whether you think it would be a good thing if he entered the race.
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I think it would be a very good thing for the country and the Party if Sen. Bernie Sanders enters the race for the Democratic Party nomination | |
18 (75%) |
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I think it would be harmful for the Democratic Party ticket if Sen. Bernie Sanders enters the race for the Democratic Party nomination | |
1 (4%) |
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If he wants to - he is welcome to try - but I don't think it will make much difference one way or another | |
5 (21%) |
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I think Sen. Sanders should give up his exploration of a possible run for the Democratic Party nomination and instead run as an independent or third party Presidential candidate | |
0 (0%) |
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Speaking of New Hampshire - if I was there in the winter preparing for the primary season - I would surely enjoy a nice hot cup of hot chocolate and a warm and crispy croissant. | |
0 (0%) |
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NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)He's free to do what he likes, but I don't see him changing party affiliation just to fit in with a bunch of people around here's wet dream. I guess someone has to fill the fantasy role left by Kucinich. Ah, good ol pre-primary season on DU.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Democratic Primary. That is a fact.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)and saying she was more qualified than Obama. Then he lost his Republican primary and became an Independent. DU allowed support and some DUers supported Independent Charlie over the Democratic candidate because of a theory that 'Christ could win' although he lost. He then became a Democrat and is currently a heavily supported Democratic candidate for Governor of Florida as I recall.
One assumes if DU can go bottoms up for a 'Drill Baby Drill' Palin supporting former Republican, Bernie would be seen as a far more reputable entity than Crist.....
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I would love for him to run just so that the debates go towards progressive thinking. He would do wonders for the tone of the campaign.
GOPee
(58 posts)I don't believe he could win more than a primary or two, but I'd love his voice to force Hillary to the Left in the debates, and get her on the record. Not that that matters once they win, as she will, it give us at least some hope if she says it.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Also he wouldn't do it to please us, he would do it as a pragmatic move to leverage the D machine.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)The biggest problem is that our politicians are too complacently middle of the road (or even right of center). Having Mr. Sanders in there would push the debate a bit lefwards and that can only be a good thing.
Bryant
closeupready
(29,503 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)...but if he runs as a dem, that will have the happy side benefit of fixing much of what's wrong with today's national democratic party. I can't see Bernie Sanders going along with any of that third way BS.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)much as I love Bernie....
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)As much as I love DU
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I think a Sanders or Warren type person running would do nothing but strengthen the party.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)We need to have a debate that includes strong leftist views. If nothing else, at least we have the conversation as a party and as a country.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)They almost always do. I put almost because I try to avoid being absolutist. We need someone willing to push back on SS. Actually talk about strengthening it by adding to it, not taking away. More money in, bigger payments out. Someone willing to talk about different ways to give all Americans access to healthcare. Not just fight to tweak the current system. We need someone who won't run from the word regulation, but explain how regulations can help to deal with the ills of capitalism. What these people say at the microphone matters. Some of the verbiage used in the party today really pisses me off. And yes, my loved Hillary is guilty of doing just that. Still love her. We need different verbiage coming from the leaders of our party at every turn. Sunday talk shows, conventions, debates, the hill, ect.... I truly believe that Sanders and Warren can change the face of the party where certain other leftists couldn't.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)We desperately need different verbiage coming from our party leaders, and I hope that it happens!
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)If not Liz Warren or Amy Klobuchar . I do realize the party does not like primaries, top down. But I do. And I really like Liz, Amy, and Bernie for president. They are all my top choices.
Just saying...
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)but IMHO too many people decide who to vote for on everything BUT issues, i.e. looks, popularity, charisma, etc.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Sometimes that type of voting works to our benefit, like with Kennedy. Other times, it works to our extreme detriment, like with Reagan.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)politic if he were to run for the Democratic Party nomination - But, I have to admit that it would be a longshot as far as winning the race is concerned
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)this is fantasy land...
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)I DO have to admit i have a pessimistic view about the corporate DEM bigwigs with power in the party doing everything they can to stymie him from suceeding if he DOES run though it would make for a lively election season if it were him vs Hillary in a primary! DU would be lots of fun! lol
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)naive naysayers predict - I think he could win in New Hampshire and a handful of primaries.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Problem: he is a self-identifying socialist. The GOP would have a field day. The campaign commercials would be an endless panoply of Red Square military parades and KGB officers. We'd win Vermont but the other 49 would be in play.
The next four elections are crucial: we have to prevent any more Republican infestation of Congress this year, keep the White House and flip a lot of Senate seats in 2016, maintain while starting to work on state legislatures in 2018, and then in 2020 just clean house in both the US Congress and the state bodies. I want to be in a position to re-gerrymander the states to cut back on Republicanism. But we have to take those elections in order.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Or haven't you realized that no matter who we run the GOP will dig up or manufacture "evidence" that the Dem candidate is scary/evil/cowardly/other? Look at what they did with Kerry's war record.
We need to pick candidates based on their policies and qualifications, not on what attack ads the GOP might run. Using your logic, we shouldn't even consider Hillary as a candidate because the GOP will go into warp 9 on Benghazi while dredging up old Clinton "scandals" from the past.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)an atheist Communist who is trying to force gay marriage and an Islamic caliphate - so I think the GOP may very well have created their own Aesop's Tale of the boy who cried wolf.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)The fucking Republicans will make her husband's dick and Chris Stevens her running mates. You know they will.
Try this one on for size: President Steve Beshear.
GOPee
(58 posts)..she has voted for all the wars if my memory serves me correctly. That is my biggest problem with her, unless she is our nominee, up against a warmonger in the opposition, as if any Republican can claim not to be. I believe she, with Bill as her mentor, was smart enough to have had that in mind years ago with those votes. That may be wishful thinking.
JI7
(89,249 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)a scary "socialist", and use their typical right wing themed attacks in service to whatever their favored candidate would happen to be.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)I would not risk throwing the election to right-wing kook
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Something they've been loathe to do for a long time.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)I totally support Sen. Sanders running for the Democratic Party nomination. That is where he can have a positive impact - win or lose.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)By STEVE PEOPLES
Associated Press
BOSTON (AP) - U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders is set to appear in New Hampshire this weekend as he weighs a run for president.
The two-term Vermont independent has two events scheduled Saturday, including a stop at the Institute of Politics at St. Anselm College in Manchester, N.H. The institute is a regular stop for politicians on the state's presidential primary circuit.
New Hampshire traditionally hosts the nation's first presidential primary. Prospective Republican candidates have been visiting for months ahead of the 2016 contest.
http://www.wcax.com/story/25192056/bernie-sanders-to-nh
WatermelonRat
(340 posts)I doubt he could win either the primaries or the general election, but by merely participating he can influence which issues receive attention
Iggo
(47,552 posts)The more, the merrier.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)see Hillary answer to progressives. If she does not we can not be sure where she stands.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)So under the circumstances you describe, why not.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)said the exact same thing Bernie said. Did people miss this?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024698857
What a strange question, anyway... On what grounds would it be a bad thing? This poll only makes sense if you had asked, "Would it be a good thing if Bernie ran as an Independent?"
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)The fact that he hasn't so far is probably significant too. This is, remember, a guy who voted for ACA. He can afford to push in ways that other politicians can't. Good for him.