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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:44 PM Apr 2014

Jim DeMint grumbles that 'big government' didn't free the slaves

Jim DeMint grumbles that 'big government' didn't free the slaves

by Hunter

Former South Carolina senator Jim DeMint, who left government in order to spend more time with other people's money, has some curious notions about American slavery, the Civil War and the government. Specifically, he doesn't think the American government had much of a role in ending slavery, it was just some stuff that happened.

Well the reason that the slaves were eventually freed was the Constitution, it was like the conscience of the American people. Unfortunately there were some court decisions like Dred Scott and others that defined some people as property, but the Constitution kept calling us back to ‘all men are created equal and we have inalienable rights’ in the minds of God. But a lot of the move to free the slaves came from the people, it did not come from the federal government. It came from a growing movement among the people, particularly people of faith, that this was wrong. People like [British abolitionist William Wilberforce] who persisted for years because of his faith and because of his love for people. So no liberal is going to win a debate that big government freed the slaves. In fact, it was Abraham Lincoln, the very first Republican, who took this on as a cause and a lot of it was based on a love in his heart that comes from God.

So government didn't free the slaves, it was just the Constitution and Abraham Lincoln, neither of which is government because shut up. Also, the slaves were freed because the American people wanted to free the slaves, except for the half that didn't, shut up about that too please, and Dred Scott was terrible and defining people as property was terrible and we will go to great and gymnastic lengths to not mention an entire freaking and unbelievably bloody war premised on the supposed small-gubbermint right to keep defining those people as property or to leave and form a new country which would. Nope, it was all the Constitution and the people and long-dead British politicians, and I say unto you again will you please shut up about the rest of it.

Still, though: Could there be anything more "big government" than going to war with secessionist states to force them to remain a part of the nation, then freeing the slaves by presidential fiat? Calling that a small government act seems a hard sell indeed. I am fairly certain, for example, that if current president Barack Obama sent federal armies into the southern states to enforce the Affordable Care Act Jim DeMint would personally burst every blood vessel in his head, even if his great-great-grandchildren eventually went on to claim Obama as one of the best and truest Republicans ever. No sir, I think sending in armed troops to occupy unruly states would definitely get put on the "big government" side of the pegboard, if you were to ask most current conservatives about it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/09/1290818/-Jim-DeMint-grumbles-that-big-government-didn-t-free-the-slaves

First DeMint is a moron.

Second, I love this:

"So government didn't free the slaves, it was just the Constitution and Abraham Lincoln, neither of which is government because shut up."





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Jim DeMint grumbles that 'big government' didn't free the slaves (Original Post) ProSense Apr 2014 OP
It is strange with history so well spelled out DeMint chooses to rewrite history Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #1
Why, oh why, didn't Lincoln just let them secede? MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #2
What a dumbass. OnionPatch Apr 2014 #3

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. It is strange with history so well spelled out DeMint chooses to rewrite history
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:57 PM
Apr 2014

With his own facts. This will be the same with the ACA, in a few years he will say getting ACA passed was the work by him alone. I can't see the GOP passing up an opportunity to claim it was done by the GOP's and the Democrats be damned. Thanks for passing this information.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
2. Why, oh why, didn't Lincoln just let them secede?
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:58 PM
Apr 2014

We are saddled with these insane people forever.

We should have just freed the slaves, brought them north, and let the South turn into some nutty paradise that would crater in a decade.

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
3. What a dumbass.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:48 PM
Apr 2014

Unfortunately, his followers will all yell, "Yeah!" without even thinking it through.

And too bad no one ever mentions that the Republicans were the liberals of those times. If Tea baggers were alive then, they would have been Democrats. But they sure love throwing around the idea that Lincoln was one of them.

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