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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:37 PM Apr 2014

BERNIE SANDERS Uncovers 1980 Koch Agenda- "What Do the Koch Brothers Want?"

What Do the Koch Brothers Want?

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David KochWhat else do the Koch brothers want?

In 1980, David Koch ran as the Libertarian Party’s vice-presidential candidate in 1980.

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Let’s take a look at the 1980 Libertarian Party platform.

Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:

“We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”
“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”
“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”
“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”
“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”
“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”
“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”
“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”
“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”
“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”
“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”
“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”
“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”
“We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”
“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”
“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”
“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”
“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”
“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”
“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”
“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”


In other words, the agenda of the Koch brothers is not only to defund Obamacare. The agenda of the Koch brothers is to repeal every major piece of legislation that has been signed into law over the past 80 years that has protected the middle class, the elderly, the children, the sick, and the most vulnerable in this country.

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Tomorrow it will be Social Security, ending Medicare as we know it, repealing the minimum wage. It seems to me that the Koch brothers will not be content until they get everything they believe they are entitled to.

Our great nation can no longer be hijacked by right-wing billionaires like the Koch brothers.

For the sake of our children and our grandchildren, for the sake of our economy, we have got to let democracy prevail.



http://www.sanders.senate.gov/koch-brothers
interesting stuff here too:
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a7980koch
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BERNIE SANDERS Uncovers 1980 Koch Agenda- "What Do the Koch Brothers Want?" (Original Post) kpete Apr 2014 OP
I've never wished illwill on anyone before, but napi21 Apr 2014 #1
I will second that !! geretogo Apr 2014 #16
I'm meaner than you are Warpy Apr 2014 #21
"The best way you hurt rich people . . . Brigid Apr 2014 #26
Just like the movie SCVDem Apr 2014 #41
That *was* "Trading Places." Brigid Apr 2014 #48
This is exactly what would make them suffer most treestar Apr 2014 #77
I feel the same way whenever I see a mention of this demonic duo. tofuandbeer Apr 2014 #27
Compared to Koch Brothers' Rush Limbaugh appears anglelic Rockyj Apr 2014 #30
Oh, come on now - there's room in hell for them all. erronis Apr 2014 #45
Ditto Rider3 Apr 2014 #47
What do the Koch Bros deserve? Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #2
+1 tofuandbeer Apr 2014 #28
Or a few decades at Riker's. Erose999 Apr 2014 #33
Wow! And they have taken over the Republican Party. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #3
Hell ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #36
UnAmerican to the core. Blue_In_AK Apr 2014 #4
The problem with going after the Koch brothers.... Redford Apr 2014 #5
That's what makes them so dangerous . They're like termites eating your home unseen in your walls . geretogo Apr 2014 #17
Well that is what might make them easy targets too. Just saying....... Maraya1969 Apr 2014 #67
And the media focuses on those people instead of the real issues that would change our lives. freshwest Apr 2014 #57
Their names are on a lot of the chicken houses in the (GA) county where I live. I think they must japple Apr 2014 #59
They're like the twin Dick Cheneys of wealth. HughBeaumont Apr 2014 #80
I can't the smarmy smiles! young_at_heart Apr 2014 #6
In two words...... Auntie Bush Apr 2014 #7
I would be happy if these two treasonous criminals ended like Jimmy Hoffa . geretogo Apr 2014 #8
They are not "treasonous criminals" - at least not in the way you mean. TBF Apr 2014 #40
I agree . We need a whole new system . geretogo Apr 2014 #43
They want it all Maynar Apr 2014 #9
More precisely, they want to abolish civilization generally . . . MrModerate Apr 2014 #10
Freedom... For the most ruthless JHB Apr 2014 #34
Exactly. They think they would have all the power treestar Apr 2014 #78
They certainly have been consistant all these years FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #11
earlier it was the Hunt brothers (the guys who tried to corner the silver market and are legally now MisterP Apr 2014 #24
Yet Charles Koch is being revered TRoN33 Apr 2014 #12
Charles and David Koch .. the two bros are getting up there in age .. perhaps if > YOHABLO Apr 2014 #13
Do either of them have any spawn? Brigid Apr 2014 #82
Not really uncovered IkeRepublican Apr 2014 #14
Agree, this is hardly a secret. harun Apr 2014 #46
And the GOP has been dragged so far right that libertarian crap now seems reasonable to them. Beartracks Apr 2014 #15
They have enough money to just take anything they want, by physical violence if necessary, GoneFishin Apr 2014 #18
exactly hopemountain Apr 2014 #49
get the government out of their way demigoddess Apr 2014 #60
Well said. freshwest Apr 2014 #75
Their methods work on the 'left' and 'right' with C.T. & F.U.D. preached to advance their agenda. freshwest Apr 2014 #19
These boys aren't playing with a full deck.. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #20
It doesn't need to be full if you have the resources to stack it. JHB Apr 2014 #35
Libertarian my ass! Just call them what they are -- ANARCHISTS! Kablooie Apr 2014 #22
You beat me to it. Capt.Rocky300 Apr 2014 #23
Was just going to say the same thing Tsiyu Apr 2014 #31
Why don't those two assholes move to Somalia? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #37
They don't mind freeloading off our Tsiyu Apr 2014 #56
Too many people of color out there so that's not an option for our nice, white, Koch boys. Kablooie Apr 2014 #61
I don't think that is much of a consideration ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #62
Any self respecting anarchist would take offence from that comment!!!!! Theyletmeeatcake2 Apr 2014 #54
Hey, Kockroaches! Brigid Apr 2014 #25
Don't tell people who are fans of that era this. HughBeaumont Apr 2014 #81
what's so fucking ridiculous is this was easily avoidable certainot Apr 2014 #29
RW radio/kool-aide is effective but cerainly not their only weapon. 4 ex: ALEC & stacking the SCOTUS hue Apr 2014 #73
that's ALEC's best weapon for pushing the center right, enabling and intimidating media and politici certainot Apr 2014 #74
I agree with the Kochsuckers that we should abolish the CIA. Probably not for the same reasons thoug Erose999 Apr 2014 #32
Dear President Obama, pangaia Apr 2014 #38
The Koch brothers version of promoting the general welfare doctrine? indepat Apr 2014 #39
Sounds like hell on earth. skypilot Apr 2014 #42
I feel like I owe everyone here an apology. WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2014 #44
Welcome back to sanity.. I joined young Republicans in college mountain grammy Apr 2014 #69
Wow! WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2014 #70
51% of the population do not know who they are- KrazyinKS Apr 2014 #50
Your Social Security is quite the fighter ... knightmaar Apr 2014 #51
They also support the idea of everyone being heavily armed to thin out the poor. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #52
Thanks for Posting! Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #53
I'd vote for that BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #55
holeee crapanoli Sheepshank Apr 2014 #58
And they call us extremists? OnionPatch Apr 2014 #63
Oh, that's what he wants. Here's what he would get. robertpaulsen Apr 2014 #64
"Anarchists who want police power to protect them from their slaves!" LongTomH Apr 2014 #65
Koch brands in your grocery store: blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #66
wow. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #68
They want to be kings. L0oniX Apr 2014 #71
This OP really nails it! Kochs fund the RW, Tea/Repuke & even Dems who support this agenda! hue Apr 2014 #72
The FBI treestar Apr 2014 #76
So he basically supports completely destroying the government. Isn't that considered treason? Initech Apr 2014 #79

napi21

(45,806 posts)
1. I've never wished illwill on anyone before, but
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:43 PM
Apr 2014

in the case of these bros, I'm thinking this will be the first. There's always things like plane crashes, auto accidents, fatal illnesses etc. I'm tired being all legal and professional. These guys deserve the absolute worst!

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
26. "The best way you hurt rich people . . .
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:07 AM
Apr 2014

"Is by turning them into poor people." -- Billy Ray Valentine

treestar

(82,383 posts)
77. This is exactly what would make them suffer most
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 03:13 PM
Apr 2014

Or a lack of power. It's not even the money, it's power over others.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. Wow! And they have taken over the Republican Party.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:50 PM
Apr 2014

Lincoln must be turning over in his grave.

I'm surprised they didn't admit that they want to appeal the 14th and 15th Amendments on top of everything else.

Redford

(373 posts)
5. The problem with going after the Koch brothers....
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:56 PM
Apr 2014

Is that most people have no idea who they are. They don't appear on tv, the paparazzi don't follow them, they are not in People magazine, they have no reality show, and they don't date celebrities.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
17. That's what makes them so dangerous . They're like termites eating your home unseen in your walls .
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:47 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Sun Apr 13, 2014, 06:46 PM - Edit history (1)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
57. And the media focuses on those people instead of the real issues that would change our lives.
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 06:18 PM
Apr 2014

It wasn't always this way. Such things were minor as far as networks were concerned, they were what people paid to see at the movies or listen to music on the radio.

Now the eye candy is so pervasive, it's in school text books as if it mattered. It doesn't. The same goes for the stories of just how awful or stupid some people are. It keeps the babblers busy.

What matters is who owns the media, resources and influences people to vote for their agenda, not ours. I look at media inversely, as when many were protesting the Iraq War that was totally blacked out. Instead of covering the life and deaths of many, some celebrity's drug induced death spiral was on the news 24/7. The appeal is to personality, and not political reality.

The adage of the mushroom says that they keep us in the dark and feed us bullshit. We can argue about the quality of the bullshit, but we're still in the dark, that's what is missed every time.

japple

(9,823 posts)
59. Their names are on a lot of the chicken houses in the (GA) county where I live. I think they must
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 06:44 PM
Apr 2014

have bought out some other brand of chicken. Now, I'm seeing "Koch Foods" signs around here.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
80. They're like the twin Dick Cheneys of wealth.
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 09:00 AM
Apr 2014

Preferring to lurk behind the scenes as puppeteer scions after their political campaigns failed miserably.

young_at_heart

(3,767 posts)
6. I can't the smarmy smiles!
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:00 PM
Apr 2014

I hate that these despicable men have so much money and so much power. They are certainly not true Americans!

TBF

(32,056 posts)
40. They are not "treasonous criminals" - at least not in the way you mean.
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:28 PM
Apr 2014

They are capitalists. I'm sure it you cornered them on it they could show you they've made all their money legally. << Notice that I did not say they made it morally - but I'll bet they are clear legally. And that is what is wrong with this economic system. It not only allows but ENCOURAGES this greed and it's accompanying behaviors. They need to go, but so does capitalism itself.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
10. More precisely, they want to abolish civilization generally . . .
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:22 PM
Apr 2014

And revert to the rule of tooth and claw.

They are flatly nuts.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
78. Exactly. They think they would have all the power
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 03:14 PM
Apr 2014

If only the government didn't, they could have it.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
24. earlier it was the Hunt brothers (the guys who tried to corner the silver market and are legally now
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 12:56 AM
Apr 2014

banned from doing any such investment)
next it'll be the DeVoses (yes, Amway is going to take over the GOP)

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
13. Charles and David Koch .. the two bros are getting up there in age .. perhaps if >
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:37 PM
Apr 2014

..... and you know what the 'if' means.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
14. Not really uncovered
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:39 PM
Apr 2014

Was shown and discussed quite a bit in the movie "The Billionaires Tea Party" that was put out 3-4 years ago.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
15. And the GOP has been dragged so far right that libertarian crap now seems reasonable to them.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:39 PM
Apr 2014

And GOPers of yesterday -- like Ronald Reagan -- would be deemed to librul, too socialist. How ironic that must be for him.

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GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
18. They have enough money to just take anything they want, by physical violence if necessary,
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:54 PM
Apr 2014

if only they can get the god-damned government out of their way.

They are the enemy of civilized society.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
49. exactly
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:31 PM
Apr 2014

and it is a crime against humanity to bully and terrorize with money the working class, elders, the disabled, and the poor of all walks of life.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
60. get the government out of their way
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 07:01 PM
Apr 2014

and they would have to be declared emperor-kings in order to keep our heads on.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. Their methods work on the 'left' and 'right' with C.T. & F.U.D. preached to advance their agenda.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:56 PM
Apr 2014
People need to realize where the conclusions to manufactured outrages lead. This lists the consequences.

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Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
31. Was just going to say the same thing
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 10:18 AM
Apr 2014


But people in the US are SOOOO stupid, they don't remember from day to day just how bad de-regulation hurts us.

The whole financial meltdown was a result of just the sort of anarchy the Kochsuckers want for this nation.

Why don't those two assholes move to Somalia, where there is no regulation? They would be far happier.

A pox on both of these piss ants. For real. I hope all their hatred for the US is turned back on them and they rot from the inside.


TODAY would not be soon enough for them to drop dead.











 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
37. Why don't those two assholes move to Somalia? ...
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:01 PM
Apr 2014

because here in the US, the cost of their (physical and economic) security is largely paid for by others. In Somalia, the koches would have to provide for their own physical security (e.g., hire a large private security force and pay them more than the mercenaries could get by kidnapping them) and they know that there is no way to protect their economic security (e.g., no courts).

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
56. They don't mind freeloading off our
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 06:04 PM
Apr 2014

education system ( to teach their workers how to read and do math, ) our highway system, to transport their goods to market and to bring in materials and to bring their workers to the jobsite; they don't mind freeloading off our court system, our water systems, our law enforcement systems,, and in fact were able to make their vast wealth by exploiting all these perks paid for by the commoner.

You're absolutely right. These two cretins only want to exploit a system that's already set up and paid for, with zero contribution on their part, despite all their affluence depending on the tax-paying commoners they despise.




 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
62. I don't think that is much of a consideration ...
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 07:18 PM
Apr 2014

remember, Plantation owners were quite comfortable surrounded by people of color.

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
54. Any self respecting anarchist would take offence from that comment!!!!!
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 05:44 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Sat Apr 12, 2014, 08:41 AM - Edit history (2)

anarchists believe in the commonwealth for the common good...it's not the molotov throwing image most people have been brought up with , and as for those koch fuckers..they are fascists in the true sense

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
81. Don't tell people who are fans of that era this.
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 09:07 AM
Apr 2014

Most right-leaning libertarians hold the Gilded Age in high esteem for whatever reason.

Must not have read about how a civilization with no regulation, safety net, taxes or civil services whatsoever REALLY was if you weren't a white, well-monied "industrialist".

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
29. what's so fucking ridiculous is this was easily avoidable
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:41 AM
Apr 2014

the left's biggest political mistake in history, considering the time lost on global warming, is their total ignorance of the koch's best weapon- rw talk radio

everything on that list has been blasted out in their favor from 1200 radio stations for 25 years while the fucking idiot left would rather listen to a scratched barry manilow cd while they get their poli asses kicked by low tech AM radio

splaining it's as easy as that

hue

(4,949 posts)
73. RW radio/kool-aide is effective but cerainly not their only weapon. 4 ex: ALEC & stacking the SCOTUS
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 04:03 PM
Apr 2014
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
74. that's ALEC's best weapon for pushing the center right, enabling and intimidating media and politici
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 05:36 PM
Apr 2014

politicians to make sure corporate asshats like alito and roberts are acceptable.

clarence thomas was one of rw radio 's successes- it was used to attack his critics, including doing to anita hill what limbaugh did to sandra fluke.

i think if there had been a left reaction to get anita hills back like the rush boycott today rw radio would be nowhere near as effective and scotus would be quite different today.

the eft's ignorance of rw radio, giving it a free speech free ride, is why we're in this disaster today.

look here at how gov scott walker/ALEC uses it in wisconsin- the same is happening in every state to some extent:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251359225

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
32. I agree with the Kochsuckers that we should abolish the CIA. Probably not for the same reasons thoug
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 10:57 AM
Apr 2014

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
38. Dear President Obama,
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:14 PM
Apr 2014

Would you like to really help elect Democrats to Congress this year?
For starters, would you be willing to go on national TV(whatever the hell that is- since I don't watch TV) and just read that list?

And thanks kpete for taking the time to do the research on this.
I had no idea had bad it really was. It sounds like The Onion.

skypilot

(8,853 posts)
42. Sounds like hell on earth.
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:58 PM
Apr 2014

And the flaming cherry on top:

“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”

Yes, of course you do. If Satan ran for office this would be his platform.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
44. I feel like I owe everyone here an apology.
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:32 PM
Apr 2014

Back in my Libertarian days, I voted for John Anderson in 1980, which means I voted for this asshole. That's before I realized that Libertarians don't want the government to fund anything but war, and are hypocritical as hell, so that phase didn't last long.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
69. Welcome back to sanity.. I joined young Republicans in college
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 01:36 AM
Apr 2014

they were a fun party bunch. We took a trip to NYC from DC to work on campaigns for John Lindsay's mayoral campaign and Rockefeller for Gov. But the conservatives were among us and they were nuts. One went on to be a US Congressman for about 30 years before beaten in a primary by a teabagger... haha. even crazy Don wasn't crazy enough.

My fling lasted 2 semesters, much to my mom's relief.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
70. Wow!
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:41 AM
Apr 2014

It's scary to think the irrational conservatives have been at this for that long, but men like Rove had to start somewhere, I guess. I mean, my late husband had been a life-long Repub until 1992...Buchanan pissed him off at the convention, and he said he "didn't want to be associated with these people anymore". Became a Democrat the next day. But the loony tunes seem to have driven those folks out.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
50. 51% of the population do not know who they are-
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:52 PM
Apr 2014

I think that was the number I heard on MSNBC. Really! We know who they are here in Wichititty, hell they are moving 37th St N because they are expanding. BUT-they have no idea what their agenda really is. Those guys are past strange-they are sociopathic

knightmaar

(748 posts)
51. Your Social Security is quite the fighter ...
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:04 PM
Apr 2014

Apparently it was "virtually bankrupt" 34 years ago, and it's still "going to bankrupt really soon" these days.

So impressive, hanging on by the skin of its teeth for so long.

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
63. And they call us extremists?
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 07:27 PM
Apr 2014

WTF?! Seriously, they want a dog-eat-dog world where the rich and powerful run everything and the rest of us fight over any crumbs that fall off their plates.

How can conservatives who call themselves Christians agree with this? It's nuts!!

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
65. "Anarchists who want police power to protect them from their slaves!"
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 08:08 PM
Apr 2014

That was Kim Stanley Robinson's definition of Libertarians in Green Mars.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
66. Koch brands in your grocery store:
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 08:41 PM
Apr 2014

Angel Soft

Zee

Vanity Fair

Dixie Cups

Brawny

Quilted Northern

Sparkle

Mardi Gras

Stainmaster

Soft n Gentle

American Greetings

Lycra

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
68. wow.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 01:15 AM
Apr 2014

Just wow. Unbelievable. How do they think any kind of social structure could exist if you stripped away everything that creates structure?

How do they think the logistics of however many billion people living together would get handled? This is like a house full of kids who don't like rules thinking it would be a good idea to kick out the parents who provide the house and impose discipline best they can.

What full-throttle idiocy. Scary idiocy. Disgusting, selfish idiocy.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
76. The FBI
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 03:12 PM
Apr 2014
So he doesn't want even federal criminal laws enforced? Wait, right he doesn't. That is for states in these loons' eyes.
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