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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:26 AM Apr 2014

WA Liquor Board Says 200+ Pesticides Allowed On Marijuana

The Washington State Liquor Control Board, along with the Washington State Department of Agriculture, on Friday announced that more than 200 pesticides will be allowed for use in the production, processing and handling of marijuana sold through state-licensed stores.

If you were expecting pesticide-free pot from the state stores, so much for that idea… and don’t even think about asking for “organic” cannabis, as there certainly won’t be any of that.

Is it a coincidence that the WSLCB waited until the day after their “public input” meeting to announce that state-store marijuana will have all these pesticides in it? One can only imagine what the patients who spoke Thursday night would have had to say about that. Many of them have compromised immune systems, compromised liver function, or both — which makes it a really bad idea to ingest bug poison.

By the way, you’re not going to be allowed to grow your own, pesticide-free marijuana, because under I-502, no private home growing is allowed. And as the WSLCB told us again at Thursday night’s meeting, they’re recommending that the right to grow — which Washington patients have had for 15 years now – be taken away, as well. You see, it’s “inefficient,” they say, to have more than one place — you guessed it, THEM! — to buy your cannabis.

Read More: http://tokesignals.com/wa-liquor-board-says-200-pesticides-allowed-on-marijuana/

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WA Liquor Board Says 200+ Pesticides Allowed On Marijuana (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 OP
Why would you use pesticide? Champion Jack Apr 2014 #1
To keep weed eating insects from getting high. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #2
Lulz......I didn't think there were any bugs that would eat it Champion Jack Apr 2014 #4
Well, there are at least eight species, along with humans, that like to get a good buzz on. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #5
had to google Voice for Peace Apr 2014 #17
Let's see.... Buddyblazon Apr 2014 #18
So be sure and ask questions about how what you're buying has been raised. Loudly Apr 2014 #3
So what about the pesticides used on corn, wheat, grapes, hops? newfie11 Apr 2014 #6
sounds like the fix is in by the big boys. hobbit709 Apr 2014 #7
What do they mean, pot sold through state licensed stores? jmowreader Apr 2014 #8
I think the first stores will open in July. They recently awarded the first licenses. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #10
I saw something today that engenders an interesting thought jmowreader Apr 2014 #19
Shocked! I am shocked! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #9
I don't use pesticides on the pot I grow, and I wouldn't want to smoke pesticide pot, either. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #11
This is why we must ensure the right to grow your own is included in legalization. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #12
And all the while Colorado goes about it's business without all the neurotic stress and Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #13
Washington will get there soon. But this is a learning experience for others, too. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #14
The contrast is amazing. How did Washington turn into such neurotic control freaks... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #15
They wanted to be sure they won. But they gave away too much. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #16
Nothing says they can't go back and fix the law jmowreader Apr 2014 #20

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. To keep weed eating insects from getting high.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:39 AM
Apr 2014

The purpose of pesticide is to stop insects such as leaf eaters and grasshoppers from eating plants.

Champion Jack

(5,378 posts)
4. Lulz......I didn't think there were any bugs that would eat it
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:45 AM
Apr 2014
Only eight, out of about one hundred known pests, cause problems, and hemp is most often grown without herbicides, fungicides or pesticides. Hemp is also a natural weed suppressor due to fast growth of the canopy.


http://www.thehia.org/facts.html
 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
17. had to google
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 03:50 PM
Apr 2014
loco weed


amanita muscaria

Like most wild herbivores, reindeer have a very firm
constitution that allows them to eat all manner of nasty
plants and fungi without getting sick. Many strains of
hallucinogenic mushrooms are toxic to human beings,
but not toxic to reindeer. Native shamans noticed this
when they observed the deer seeking out poisonous
mushrooms, eating them and then capering about like
characters in a Disney cartoon.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
18. Let's see....
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 11:11 PM
Apr 2014

bugs that like cannabis:

Fungus Gnats
Spider Mites
Thrips
Hemp Russet Mites
Root Aphids
White Flies
Leaf Miners...

and on and on.

And just because the word "pesticide" is used doesn't mean they're adding carcinogens. Neem oil is a pesticide and it's pretty benign. Azamax is OMRI certified. Pyrethrum is made from chrysanthemums.

There has to be more information before you can say, "This is the absolute worst thing ever!!!!".

Mighty Wash is nothing more than frequency water while Avid you'd need a bunny suit and respirator. There's SO many different pesticides...all the way from Cilantro Oil and Cinnamon all the way to stuff that we'll haunt your DNA.

It's so vague to just say "pesticides".


And yes...Azamax, Neem Oil, and Pyrethrum are all used on a regular basis and always has. That doesn't mean you're going to grow another head out of your neck if you consume cannabis treated with these items.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
3. So be sure and ask questions about how what you're buying has been raised.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:44 AM
Apr 2014

Just like they do on Portlandia.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
8. What do they mean, pot sold through state licensed stores?
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:33 AM
Apr 2014

Initiative 502 was ratified by the voters in November 2012. It is currently April 2014 - over sixteen months later! - and not one bud has been sold in a state-licensed store. The only explanation is they're hoping people will forget pot is legal.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
10. I think the first stores will open in July. They recently awarded the first licenses.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:01 PM
Apr 2014

And, short term memory issues notwithstanding, no one has forgotten that pot is legal in Washington.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
19. I saw something today that engenders an interesting thought
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:10 PM
Apr 2014

The University of Idaho and Washington State University are 8.8 miles apart, football stadium to football stadium. (Or 8.4 miles apart cattle barn to cattle barn, if you prefer that.)

I was flipping through a recent edition of the University of Idaho newspaper, in which they were discussing all the terrible things that the school and the state of Idaho can do to you for pot-related offenses. And they are fairly awful - you can get a $500 fine for paraphernalia. The weird thing is, all the gas stations in my town sell "blunt wrappers" - the wrappers of cheap cigars, sold flat so you can roll weed into them without peeling them off the crappy cigars first. Since no one actually rolls their own cheap cigars it's self evident what these are for, especially since they have a "not to be used with illegal drugs, wink wink" warning on the package. But they sell 'em right in front of cops. WTF?

Now I wonder: given that it's not difficult to establish residency in Washington and the two schools are similar (except the Cougars didn't lose to Florida State by 11 touchdowns last season, and their ag programs are a little different - you attend Idaho to learn meat production and WSU for dairy), how many people who don't want to raise beef or grow trees are going to attend Idaho after the pot stores open in Washington?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
9. Shocked! I am shocked!
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:37 AM
Apr 2014

That 'legalization' is only for the monetary gain of corporations, and not for regular humans. And that they won't even provide a safe product.

Now what was that system of government called again, in which corporations and government are melded?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
11. I don't use pesticides on the pot I grow, and I wouldn't want to smoke pesticide pot, either.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:03 PM
Apr 2014

But then, I grow outdoors in the sunshine, not in an enclosed grow room where stuff like spider mite infestations can wipe out a crop. Still, even then, there are better solutions than pesticides.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
12. This is why we must ensure the right to grow your own is included in legalization.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:05 PM
Apr 2014

I say "If there's no home cultivation, it ain't real legalization."

And this is why Washington patients will fight tooth and nail to keep their ability to grow their own.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. And all the while Colorado goes about it's business without all the neurotic stress and
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:38 PM
Apr 2014

control issues, reaps the benefits in tax revenues and allows personal growing.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
14. Washington will get there soon. But this is a learning experience for others, too.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:44 PM
Apr 2014

The Washington initiative authors thought they needed to make concessions to win. They gave up home cultivation and they threw in a per se DUID provision. The Colorado initiative writers didn't make those concessions. And they won by the same margin.

I hope Washington patients can maintain their right to grow their own.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
15. The contrast is amazing. How did Washington turn into such neurotic control freaks...
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:45 PM
Apr 2014

Its like a Sienfeld episode.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
16. They wanted to be sure they won. But they gave away too much.
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 01:10 PM
Apr 2014

That, for me, is the lesson of Washington. We can keep home cultivation and win. We don't have to throw in sops like a per se DUID and we can win.

I'm looking for Alaska, Oregon, and Washington, DC, to legalize it at the ballot box this year. Those initiatives are already written. But I anticipate a bigger wave in 2016--probably Arizona, California, Maine, Montana, New Mexico--and then legalization through state legislatures starting in 2017. We need to be watching the creation of those 2016 initiatives carefully.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
20. Nothing says they can't go back and fix the law
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 10:18 PM
Apr 2014

I think once the people in the Columbia Basin have come to understand the occurrences of people dancing naked in the middle of the streets, climbing power poles to stick their tongues on the cables, stealing all the cars in town and selling the parts to raise pot money, winging bags of joints over the fence of the nearest day care center, or breaking into churches to screw on the altar just because pot is legal will be rare and unusual (someone's going to try them once), home cultivation will magically become authorized.

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