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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 11:17 AM Apr 2014

Court rules child pornographer’s 120-year sentence is neither cruel nor unusual

By Scott Kaufman
Monday, April 14, 2014 9:40 EDT

Last week, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the constitutionality of “a 120-year sentence imposed on a defendant convicted of production, possession, and transportation of child pornography, in connection with his sexual molestation of a four-year-old boy.”

James Robert Cobler was arrested in 2012 after police discovered him sharing child pornography on a publicly available peer-to-peer network. After computer forensic investigators used Cobbler’s Internet Protocol Address to track the files’ origin to his grandparent’s home, they executed a search warrant.

According to the affidavit, “Cobler admitted to possessing numerous images of child pornography, and using the P2P file sharing software that was used during the above-referenced downloads.” He also “indicated that he was aware of the fact that the files, including the child pornography images that were in his ‘shared’ folder were available for download by others using the peer-to-peer network.”

The most serious charges against him, however, stemmed from his admission that he not only molested a four-year-old boy he regularly babysat, but that he had taken photographs of himself doing so. Police found a folder on Cobler’s computer labelled with the victim’s first name, and it contained 11 images and one video of him performing sex acts with the child.

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/14/court-rules-that-120-year-sentence-is-not-cruel-and-unusual-punishment/

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Court rules child pornographer’s 120-year sentence is neither cruel nor unusual (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2014 OP
Quite a contrast with the treatment of the Dupont heir catrose Apr 2014 #1
Absolutely... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #2
Oh, stop it. That situation was totally different. Orrex Apr 2014 #3
My bad catrose Apr 2014 #6
He didn't take pictures, which is what this case is about. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #8
Am I supposed to be mad about this guy's sentence? Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #4
That the sentence is greater for pictures than for child rape is absurd cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #5
But he did rape a child NickB79 Apr 2014 #7
Of course he did. What suggested otherwise to you? cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #9
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but,... DonViejo Apr 2014 #10
He did molest the boy. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #12
poor guy, maybe he should appea-- naw fuck that... rot in jail asshole! dionysus Apr 2014 #11
Court got it right. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #13

catrose

(5,065 posts)
1. Quite a contrast with the treatment of the Dupont heir
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 11:20 AM
Apr 2014

who was sentenced to parole and treatment that he didn't show up for (with no consequences, as far as I know)

 

Hip_Flask

(233 posts)
2. Absolutely...
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 11:24 AM
Apr 2014

... but the point should be that the DuPont asshat should receive similar treatment as this guy and not that the 120 year prisoner deserves a sentencing more in line with the Dupont fucko.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
3. Oh, stop it. That situation was totally different.
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 11:29 AM
Apr 2014

Prison wouldn't have been good for Dupont, so obviously he couldn't go to jail, see?


Presumably 120 in prison will be great for the sick fuck in this story.

catrose

(5,065 posts)
6. My bad
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:22 PM
Apr 2014

Of course they're different, like the difference between azure and cerulean. Perfectly obvious.

Oh, wait. This guy took pictures!

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
8. He didn't take pictures, which is what this case is about.
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:28 PM
Apr 2014

The big crime is not raping children. It is pictures of raping children.

As you note with the Dupont heir, raping children might get a slap on the wrist.

But if someone was in possession of a photograph of the Dupont heir raping a child they might be facing a stiffer sentence than the actual rapist.

It is a distorted area of law. I would suggest that a picture of an act should never be a bigger crime than the actual act itself.

But here we are. The Dupont heir is free because he merely raped a child, versus taking a picture of himself raping a child.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
5. That the sentence is greater for pictures than for child rape is absurd
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:17 PM
Apr 2014

Most people will read this and say, "Big sentence for child molester. Good."

But nowhere at issue in this case is the question of whether raping children is bad.

Of course this man should be removed from civil society, precisely because raping children is bad.

The only entity here that doesn't think raping children is all that bad is the government that handed down the sentence.

A clear-minded person would (one hopes) see the greatest offense in raping the actual boy. But our government, as embodied in its laws, does not think raping children is all that big a deal unless you take pictures. Then it's a big deal.

Which is quite distorted, as a legal issue.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
9. Of course he did. What suggested otherwise to you?
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:30 PM
Apr 2014

You seem to have formed the opinion that my reply said that he did not rape a child.

My reply, of course, said nothing like that.

The man indisputably raped a child, which is why he should indisputably be in prison.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
10. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but,...
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:48 PM
Apr 2014
The most serious charges against him, however, stemmed from his admission that he not only molested a four-year-old boy he regularly babysat, but that he had taken photographs of himself doing so.


That seems to be reporting he got it for the molestation + taking pics of himself doing the molesting.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
12. He did molest the boy.
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:57 PM
Apr 2014

Nobody questions that.

The issue is that molesting the boy, which one assumes most of us would consider the paramount offense, is a relatively minor infraction.

The most serious charges against him stemmed from his admission... that he had taken photographs of himself doing so


That is the issue—that the most serious crime here (in the government's view) is not molesting the boy, but the vastly more serious crime (in the view of the government, of congress, of the system) of taking pictures of the act.

It is bizarre to have created a system where child rape is not the most serious charge.

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