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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs health care such a fundamental right that access to it should be in the constitution?
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Yes, it should be in the constitution as a constitutional right | |
8 (89%) |
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No, it should not be in the constitution as a constitutional right | |
1 (11%) |
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(19,768 posts)is it?
Like people have talked about:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4758521
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024744231#post67
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2165643
And even you admitted:
and nevermind that my thread was about a poster who voted in my gungeon poll where nobody should have voted for the first option --and one of the few that did, had NOT A SINGLE DU POST.
so i asked.
and if someone takes wingnut position in my poll (though this poll doesn't have a wingnut position) i just might talk about it.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)bye!
SQUEE
(1,320 posts)just so you know.
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(19,768 posts)to offer honest opinions and then do research on those who vote the "wrong" way, digging into their previous posts, and profiles etc, to find something with which you can harass them and personally attack them.
I think people have a right to know.
So is it?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and why so many respond to your posts about me with "cjeekdgg".
https://www.google.com/search?q=cjeekdgg&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&safe=on
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(19,768 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)there is no trap.
don't you have some cattle ranchers to defend?
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(19,768 posts)harassment and personal attacks from you for voting the "wrong" way in one of your trap polls, seemed warranted.
Now you say this isn't one of your trap polls. I don't believe you, you have a long track record of this kind of thing.
But others might believe you.
At least now they know the risks.
Btw, no one is forcing any of us to be here.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)you're such a giver!
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(19,768 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)in a poll on The Race Card earlier today, I received a somewhat...odd...PM. Odd, because I had only voted, and had not left a comment.
The ensuing...discussion...quickly devolved into a lecture to me on my motives, desires, and mental state
After a few rounds, I decided to ask what the purpose of that communication was.
No reply.
tazkcmo
(7,419 posts)Just establish a universal health care system and be done with it. I would be happy to vote yes if it was the quickest way to get said system though.
SQUEE
(1,320 posts)I do not see the actual idea of health care as a human right, i see it as an obligation of "Society" and the government to provide for the general good.
To many things are labeled as rights and are mistakenly conflated with positive oligations of the state, versus the negative restraints placed apon the same by the Constitution.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)just wondering what the threshold is.
SQUEE
(1,320 posts)not even a good try pushie...
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Good luck ever achieving such a thing, but in an ideal world. . .
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 14, 2014, 03:35 PM - Edit history (1)
Without health, there is no "Life." Only death from illness.
Without health, there is no "Liberty." Only enslavement to disease.
Without health, there can be no "Pursuit of Happiness."
It's already codified. Our problem is not the words. Our problem is our priorities.
Edit: Derp.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)i mean as an amendment to the constitution.
REP
(21,691 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)tritsofme
(18,736 posts)Not the Constitution.
REP
(21,691 posts)Almost.
The Declaration if Independence does not have any legal bearing in the United States of America - something that I'm sure you know, but many do not. There is no government guarantee of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
LeftishBrit
(41,315 posts)count as part of the Constitution, or otherwise formally binding?
REP
(21,691 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)This is the Preamble to the Constitution:
This is the Declaration of Independence:
LeftishBrit
(41,315 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 14, 2014, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)
Article 25: Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
mike_c
(36,414 posts)As signatories of the UN Charter, we should ALREADY be guaranteeing access to affordable quality health care for all persons.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Would said amendment require that health care be provided? Or would it prevent states from interfering with getting health care? Would it be available at no cost? How would delivery be paid for? Would all health professionals suddenly be employed by the federal government?
I think it's way too complicated to add to the constitution.
plcdude
(5,321 posts)I think the general welfare clause incorporates the right to be healthy
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)We don't have constitutional provisions for ensuring all Americans have access to a quality education, nutritious food, a safe and secure living environment, a job with a living wage, freedom from gun-driven violence, etc.
I do view healthcare, not health insurance, as a "right" in a most pedestrian context.
This is what we as Americans should share as common values and "rights". But "con"servatives believe it is all about what you have and what others don't.
What they don't realize is the country and our politics are bought and sold on Wall Street and among big-ticket donors (both Democratic and Republican).
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Crunchy Frog
(27,179 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)dilby
(2,273 posts)Just wondering because health care is a very broad term, for some it indicates if you are ever sick you are provided every necessary means to get better. For others it means if you get sick you get to see a doctor but you are not guaranteed the necessary care to get better. How would you word this amendment to the Constitution, till I know what I am getting I am voting no.