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Several More Pics at Link. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26969150
A photographer who snapped what could be the world's only girl hunting with a golden eagle says watching her work was an amazing sight.
Most children, Asher Svidensky says, are a little intimidated by golden eagles. Kazakh boys in western Mongolia start learning how to use the huge birds to hunt for foxes and hares at the age of 13, when the eagles sit heavily on their undeveloped arms. Svidensky, a photographer and travel writer, shot five boys learning the skill - and he also photographed Ashol-Pan.
"To see her with the eagle was amazing," he recalls. She was a lot more comfortable with it, a lot more powerful with it and a lot more at ease with it."
The Kazakhs of the Altai mountain range in western Mongolia are the only people that hunt with golden eagles, and today there are around 400 practising falconers. Ashol-Pan, the daughter of a particularly celebrated hunter, may well be the country's only apprentice huntress.
They hunt in winter, when the temperatures can drop to -40C (-40F). A hunt begins with days of trekking on horseback through snow to a mountain or ridge giving an excellent view of prey for miles around. Hunters generally work in teams. After a fox is spotted, riders charge towards it to flush it into the open, and an eagle is released. If the eagle fails to make a kill, another is released.
Continued at Link with more amazing pics:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26969150
1000words
(7,051 posts)Great smile. Thanks for posting.
Rec'd
Enrique
(27,461 posts)1000words
(7,051 posts)okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)They seem at peace with the world in a way that I as "civilized" person can't even imagine. I thoroughly envy them. Somehow, we forgot that humans are animals and part of the natural world. These girls have brought so much light into my day.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)the eagle is more inscrutable
slumcamper
(1,606 posts)with the assertion, "The only way to stop a bad Mongolian with a golden eagle is with a good Mongolian with a golden eagle."
calimary
(81,222 posts)Glad you're here! Yeah, I can just hear it now. But even he can't spoil my sense of awe and wonder at this young woman - those pictures in the BBC story - BREATH-TAKING!!!!!!!!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)They are about the friendliest damn people I've ever met.
Also if you can. pick up the documentary, "Genghis Blues" - it's Tuva, not Mongolia, but still, very similar, wonderful friendly people.
I guess once you conquer every place i nthe world worth conquering at the time, you can take it easy for the rest of time
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I watched the Feynman documentary about Tuva and also The Long Way Round with Ewan McGregor and now I really need to find a way to get there. I was joking with my SO that being Mongolian, you can do whatever you want because you've conquered the known world from horseback and most of Russia and Asia has your genes The people look awesomely friendly and happy. Can't wait to see it, but since we're divers, most vacations are planned around gin clear water. What a difficult choice!
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)alfredo
(60,071 posts)calimary
(81,222 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)Wow!
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)A great big warm smile, too.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)since everyone knows eagles only exist in the U.S. of A...
We wouldn't have made it our national symbol if it *wasn't* specifically unique to our country and our way of life
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Sometimes I think he was prescient.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)"For my own part I wish the Bald Eagle had not been chosen the Representative of our Country. He is a Bird of bad moral Character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him. "
"For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America... He is besides, though a little vain & silly, a Bird of Courage, and would not hesitate to attack a Grenadier of the British Guards who should presume to invade his Farm Yard with a red Coat on."
not sure that he *wanted* it to be a turkey.. rather that a turkey would have been a better choice than a bald eagle
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Thus, Republics tend to avoid it. That seems to be Franklin's main objection, he wanted a Republic not an Empire and thus wanted to avoid the symbols of Empire. A Turkey is NOT an Eagle and thus does NOT imply Empire. Both the Bald Eagle and the Turkey are native to North America, but being an Eagle the Bald Eagle brings with it Imperial baggage, that the Turkey, being raised as food by farmers, does not.
The Turkey is more like a Cow, or other life stock, something valuable, important, capable of defending itself, but with no image or baggage of demanding special privileges for itself.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)He said the turkey was fast and cunning to escape its foes, naturally he was speaking of wild turkeys, not the ones bred for slaughter.
And I believe he accused the eagle of 'bad morals' for dining on rotten carcasses and being an opportunist.
Raptors are known for killing prey unexpectedly and that speed and brutality is exploited in art work. But they may not like it after all, or so says the Onion:
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I think old Ben was on to something.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)happyslug
(14,779 posts)Golden Eagles operate from Florida to Spain, via Alaska and Siberia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Eagle
Bald Eagles are about the same size, but restricted to North America:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_Eagle
The Bald Eagle is mostly a fish eater, but will eat mammals and ther birds.
Both Eagles are members of the Accipitridae Family of Birds:'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accipitridae
While the Bald Eagle is just in North America, its close cousin, The White Tail Eagle operates in the same niche in Eurasia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-tailed_Eagle
As a rule the Golden Eagle is the better hunter of land creatures, the Bald Eagle and it Eurasian cousin the White tail Eagle, do better at fishing and have more efficient digestive systems (thus can live in areas that can NOT support a Golden Eagle).
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)A golden eagle would be too heavy to even fly as a simple matter of physics..
happyslug
(14,779 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,367 posts)yawnmaster
(2,812 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Girls rule!
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)And I only mean that in the best of ways. Awesome!
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)This one is breathtaking
OMG, I love this kid!!!
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)You are, yes you are!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I'd love to have an eagle buddy to hug
calimary
(81,222 posts)Just stunning! I'm just quite literally in awe.
MAGNIFICENT.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Sigh.
JI7
(89,248 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Solly Mack
(90,763 posts)progressoid
(49,988 posts)They are used to hunt wolves too.
CTyankee
(63,911 posts)I didn't know that...
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But mostly ot's for their fur, and to protect sheep.
Wolves are nowhere enar endangered in Central Asia.
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)for both animals :p
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)btw I want that hat!
WhiteTara
(29,704 posts)There is such a bond between and her eagle. The last pic in the article says it all, I think.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)And maybe a pet eagle. Or not.
Number23
(24,544 posts)comes up with a coat that looks just like hers and claims he was "inspired" by her photo.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)mopinko
(70,090 posts)it's a widely practiced and ancient art.
maybe he is a descendant of chris columbus
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)mopinko
(70,090 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)KatyaR
(3,445 posts)edgineered
(2,101 posts)you wouldn't see my fingers anywhere near one of those birds! I agree and hold her in esteem.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
johnnyreb
(915 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)That girl is beautiful in every way and those photos are simply awe inspiring. Magnificent.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)I recall an article from 'the progressive', years ago, quoting the Dalai Llama as saying to not be surprised if there are more female llamas in the future, that he himself could return in female form. He said the time of male authority was passing.
I'm glad to see this in that part of the world. Dad's family is Hungarian, I've a cousin who could pass for this little girl, she has the Mongol features, very beautiful. I'll have to send her this link. But gosh, seeing her with that powerful piece of nature on her arm, that's just straight awesome.
Reminds me of John Denver's Eagle & the Hawk:
I am the eagle I live in high country in rocky cathedrals that reach to the sky
& I am the hawk and there's blood on my feathers, the time is still turning they soon will be dry
& all those who see me and all who believe in me feel all the freedom I feel when I fly
Come dance with the west wind and touch all the mountaintops, feel all the
(that's all I remember)
.. reach for the heavens and up to the stars
all that we can be and not what we are
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I forgot what part of the country it was. Thanks for posting this beautiful OP.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Some have been seen in Ireland, and given how close Alaska is to Siberia I would expect some to stray into Siberia.
On the other hand, the Bald Eagle has a close cousin in Siberia, the White Tail Eagle. Both are about the same size and fills the same niche (lake and large rivers hunters) but the White Tail Eagle does NOT have white feathers on its head.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-tailed_Eagle
From what I have read, the only other white headed eagle is out of Africa, but in the African Fish Eagle, the white feathers goes into its chest, and this Eagle's fathers clearly ends at the neck:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Fish_Eagle
This this bird, if being used by a Falconer in the US, would be a Federal Felony. Thus i has to be somewhere where keeping Bald Eagle is legal.
On the other hand, Bald Eagle, while better fishers then Golden Eagles, can survive in areas where they is NOT enough food for Golden Eagles.
d_r
(6,907 posts)at a raptor center or rehabilitating the eagle
herding cats
(19,564 posts)My thanks and a K&R!
malaise
(268,966 posts)and she is clearly happy - what a smile.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)...
MADem
(135,425 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,261 posts)... but I'd keep that beak away from my face.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Chakaconcarne
(2,446 posts)I'm pretty sure I would... if even just for a day. Would probably re-invigorate me for the next month.
Thanks for sharing this story.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)must be quite high.