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malaise

(268,963 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:45 PM Apr 2014

CIA torture architect breaks silence to defend 'enhanced interrogation'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/18/cia-torture-architect-enhanced-interrogation
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• James Mitchell 'highly skeptical' of Senate report on CIA torture
• 'It was not illegal based on the law at the time'
• Mitchell said to have waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
• Interview: 'I'm just a guy who got asked to do something for his country'


The psychologist regarded as the architect of the CIA's “enhanced interrogation” program has broken a seven-year silence to defend the use of torture techniques against al-Qaida terror suspects in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

In an uncompromising and wide-ranging interview with the Guardian, his first public remarks since he was linked to the program in 2007, James Mitchell was dismissive of a Senate intelligence committee report on CIA torture in which he features, and which is currently at the heart of an intense row between legislators and the agency.

The committee’s report found that the interrogation techniques devised by Mitchell, a retired air force psychologist, were far more brutal than disclosed at the time, and did not yield useful intelligence. These included waterboarding, stress positions, sleep deprivation for days at a time, confinement in a box and being slammed into walls.

But Mitchell, who was reported to have personally waterboarded accused 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, remains unrepentant. “The people on the ground did the best they could with the way they understood the law at the time,” he said. “You can't ask someone to put their life on the line and think and make a decision without the benefit of hindsight and then eviscerate them in the press 10 years later.”

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Fuck you Mitchell! Fuck you Bush! Fuck you Cheney! Fuck you Gonzales!
Fuck all war criminals. Torture is a war crime.
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CIA torture architect breaks silence to defend 'enhanced interrogation' (Original Post) malaise Apr 2014 OP
Seeing as the torturers and murderers of the bush administration are not facing a court of law. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #1
Mark my word malaise Apr 2014 #3
One can hope... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #6
this is what occurs when criminals go unpunished. they become emboldened and proud of their crimes spanone Apr 2014 #2
In some other cultures at least they have the decency to malaise Apr 2014 #4
Mitchell dares to use the "following orders," excuse. nilesobek Apr 2014 #5
Civilians who try that crap are known as accessories to crimes malaise Apr 2014 #7
Is the United States somehow exempt nilesobek Apr 2014 #9
Do you remember when they said they would rewrite history malaise Apr 2014 #12
Its good to meet someone like you. nilesobek Apr 2014 #13
Obama endorsed that early on FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #31
The United States hanged war criminals after World War II. Octafish Apr 2014 #8
I just want them all locked up for the rest of their lives malaise Apr 2014 #10
Operation paperclip-look it up DiverDave Apr 2014 #39
They are coming out of the woodwork, freaking out over wikileaks..GOOD. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #11
Remember how long it took for Pinochet to pay malaise Apr 2014 #15
If there is a hell, she rests with Pinochet. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #17
K&R Solly Mack Apr 2014 #14
They avoided the AG and went straight to their prescription writer Yoo who cited his own writings underpants Apr 2014 #16
I remember malaise Apr 2014 #18
Actually it was Ashcroft that they were circumventing underpants Apr 2014 #19
What year was Gonzo's appointment? n/t malaise Apr 2014 #20
Ashcroft '01-'05 Gonzo '05-'07 but if you ask him he will say "I don't know" underpants Apr 2014 #21
I watched those hearings malaise Apr 2014 #22
that's right.. only three words in his vocabulary. "I don't know" 2banon Apr 2014 #29
This guy shoud be stay silent and don't pollute the Earth with the crap comming from his dirty mouth mylye2222 Apr 2014 #23
I disagree. It's a good sign that the noose is tightening. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #34
Could someone please explain to me how abusing people and TORTUREING them is in any way Vincardog Apr 2014 #24
Your ugly statement calls for APOLOGY OF TORTURE!!!!! mylye2222 Apr 2014 #25
You're misunderstanding that post, I believe 2banon Apr 2014 #38
All I know is that torture is a war crime malaise Apr 2014 #26
Never legal always a war crime. See Nurenburg Treaty. Thx for admit guilt on point Apr 2014 #27
As I posted above, Obama cancelled Nuremburg FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #32
You took the words right out of my angry heart and potty mouth.. ! 2banon Apr 2014 #28
LOL at potty mouth malaise Apr 2014 #30
that's we call it around my digs... :) 2banon Apr 2014 #36
ALL THIS CRIMINAL FUCKING BUSH ADMINISTRATION mylye2222 Apr 2014 #33
do you mean The Hague (Den Haag) ? 2banon Apr 2014 #37
Didnt all the low level torture bastards get pardoned? nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #35

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
1. Seeing as the torturers and murderers of the bush administration are not facing a court of law.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:47 PM
Apr 2014

Could we expect anything less then bragging about their crimes.

malaise

(268,963 posts)
3. Mark my word
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:49 PM
Apr 2014

They will pay - the times are a changing.

Thank you Mr. Snowden! Thank you Wiki-leaks! Thank you all whistle blowers!

spanone

(135,829 posts)
2. this is what occurs when criminals go unpunished. they become emboldened and proud of their crimes
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:48 PM
Apr 2014

you are correct, fuck them and the stain they leave on this country.

'eviscerate them in the press'? they should be eviscerated in the courts and imprisoned.

malaise

(268,963 posts)
4. In some other cultures at least they have the decency to
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:50 PM
Apr 2014

commit suicide. These criminals are arrogant.

That's why the ReTHUGs must be beaten.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
5. Mitchell dares to use the "following orders," excuse.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:50 PM
Apr 2014

Post-war Germany was filled with "guys who* were asked to do things for their country."

malaise

(268,963 posts)
7. Civilians who try that crap are known as accessories to crimes
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:56 PM
Apr 2014

Send them all to the Hague...they are beyond evil. They should not be among human beings or other animals.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
9. Is the United States somehow exempt
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:01 PM
Apr 2014

from International treaties regarding torture, like the Geneva Convention? Japanese went to the gallows for waterboarding. Yes, let The Hague decide.

This should be pounded continually to ruin the Republican brand once and for all.

malaise

(268,963 posts)
12. Do you remember when they said they would rewrite history
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:04 PM
Apr 2014

Time to throw away the keys.

Everyone most learn to say no to torture - torture is a war crime.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
13. Its good to meet someone like you.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:09 PM
Apr 2014

Its totally unfair in war to not give quarter. The Bush Clan did not give quarter!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. The United States hanged war criminals after World War II.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:57 PM
Apr 2014

The vast majority got away to continue their evil, some from positions in the highest circles fighting the spread of godless communism.

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB150/

malaise

(268,963 posts)
10. I just want them all locked up for the rest of their lives
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:02 PM
Apr 2014

starting with the war criminal of a Dick.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
39. Operation paperclip-look it up
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:49 PM
Apr 2014

The United States government protected people that did medical 'experiments' on prisoners.
The cia still uses the technics that Nazi psychopaths devised in WW2.
Look up nordhausen and what they did to people suspected of sabotage.
The same monsters worked at NASA.
The best interrogators in the war were the ones that befriended the prisoners.
Using kindness had far better results then torture. A tortured person just wants it
to stop, saying anything to get it to stop. They knew this, and yet continued torture ( with no usable evidence gained from it)
WHY?
I'm convinced that Abu Ghraib and the rest were staffed with psychopathic goons that got off on inflicting the pain
The interrogators were sick, their bosses were freaking monsters.

They should be tried at the Hague and convicted of crimes against humanity.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. They are coming out of the woodwork, freaking out over wikileaks..GOOD.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:02 PM
Apr 2014

Maybe we can see one day these bastards held accountable, I will remain hopeful until
all possibilities are null and void.

K&R

malaise

(268,963 posts)
15. Remember how long it took for Pinochet to pay
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:16 PM
Apr 2014

Remember when Margaret (that scumbag) Thatcher tried to protect him.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
16. They avoided the AG and went straight to their prescription writer Yoo who cited his own writings
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:21 PM
Apr 2014

from law school in order to give the predetermined opinion he was told to write

See! It WAS legal at the time!!

"The Darkside" by Jane Mayer covers this completely

malaise

(268,963 posts)
18. I remember
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:15 PM
Apr 2014

We had a plethora of Fuck Yoo posts here! Gonzo must not get a pass. They are all war criminals

underpants

(182,788 posts)
19. Actually it was Ashcroft that they were circumventing
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:37 PM
Apr 2014

Yeah Ashcroft - from the original crew THAT GUY comes off at the end as the least crazy

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
23. This guy shoud be stay silent and don't pollute the Earth with the crap comming from his dirty mouth
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:10 PM
Apr 2014

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
24. Could someone please explain to me how abusing people and TORTUREING them is in any way
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:42 PM
Apr 2014

" put(ing) their life on the line"?

Wouldn't putting your life on the line involve more risk than the remote possibility that you might be held responsible for your illegal actions?

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
38. You're misunderstanding that post, I believe
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:40 PM
Apr 2014

The poster was calling into question the assertion by the torturer claiming to put his(the torturer's life) life "on the line" for our country.. read the excerpt in the OP ...

malaise

(268,963 posts)
26. All I know is that torture is a war crime
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:45 PM
Apr 2014

and BS like I was putting my life on the line or doing this on behalf of my country don't work.

on point

(2,506 posts)
27. Never legal always a war crime. See Nurenburg Treaty. Thx for admit guilt
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:53 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Fri Apr 18, 2014, 04:51 PM - Edit history (1)

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
28. You took the words right out of my angry heart and potty mouth.. !
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 04:05 PM
Apr 2014


Fuck you Mitchell! Fuck you Bush! Fuck you Cheney! Fuck you Gonzales!
Fuck all war criminals. Torture is a war crime.


Hear, Here!
 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
33. ALL THIS CRIMINAL FUCKING BUSH ADMINISTRATION
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 04:29 PM
Apr 2014

SOULD BE TRIED BEFORE THE INTERNATIONAL PENAL COURT IN LA HAYE.

Period!

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