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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:09 PM Apr 2014

Construction underway for 'USS Gabrielle Giffords'

TUCSON, AZ (CBS5) -

Construction of the "USS Gabrielle Giffords" is underway in Alabama.

Gabrielle Giffords etched her initials into the keel of the combat ship being built for the U.S. Navy.

It's the first naval vessel of its kind to be named after a living woman.

Giffords was chosen because of how far she's come since being wounded in an assassination attempt in Tucson in January 2011.

"She reflects those qualities the navy holds dear: courage, resiliency and a fighting spirit," Gulf Coast Ship Building Supervisor Capt. Joseph Tuite said.

http://www.wsfa.com/story/25278981/construction-underway-for-uss-gabrielle-giffords

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Construction underway for 'USS Gabrielle Giffords' (Original Post) The Straight Story Apr 2014 OP
A wonderfull tribute to a so courageous woman . Bravo! mylye2222 Apr 2014 #1
Looking forward to LaPierre's spittle-flecked comments about this, on behalf of the NRA. (nt) Paladin Apr 2014 #2
Looking forward the comments of Palin, and the team who designed the leflets with mylye2222 Apr 2014 #4
SarahPAC Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #8
don't you know mooselina is jealous. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #16
Jesse Kelly, Republican, 2010: Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #7
No sense of shame, no attempt at public decorum. Paladin Apr 2014 #10
I don't know why but for some reason that really made my day tularetom Apr 2014 #3
A true HERO madokie Apr 2014 #25
The Wiki page about the ship jmowreader Apr 2014 #5
Yes, it will look like this... stevenleser Apr 2014 #31
I am a bit surprised about the lack of a UAV launch rail jmowreader Apr 2014 #37
Supposedly, there are modules you can swap in or out with these that allow different configs... stevenleser Apr 2014 #39
K & R nt okaawhatever Apr 2014 #6
That is awesome. Love Gabby Gifford Auntie Bush Apr 2014 #9
I can hear the peaceniks now- CFLDem Apr 2014 #11
Happy? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #13
So you hate peace huh n/t L0oniX Apr 2014 #24
I apologize for mellowing your high. n/t CFLDem Apr 2014 #26
She was never a peacenik by any measure I'm aware. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #33
Add me to that list. Orsino Apr 2014 #35
a problem with peace lovers? G_j Apr 2014 #38
Shoulda been a hospital ship. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #12
+1. grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #14
+1 Shankapotomus Apr 2014 #19
+1 Owl Apr 2014 #20
+1 L0oniX Apr 2014 #23
bad ass nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #15
I have the utmost respect for Rep. Giffords. Howerver, as a general rule, Ex Lurker Apr 2014 #17
and should have served in the Navy too Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #18
I share that opinoin. Nailzberg Apr 2014 #29
I wish thay would build a college instead of a war machine. stonecutter357 Apr 2014 #21
I find this to be very odd and ironic. L0oniX Apr 2014 #22
They ought to build a tuition free U.S.S. Gabrielle Giffords Junior College or 20. jtuck004 Apr 2014 #27
I thought Hopper was still alive when the USS G M Hopper was launched? (nt) Recursion Apr 2014 #28
Grace Hopper was an amazing woman Shemp Howard Apr 2014 #41
Why is it wrong? She's a big reason the LCS wasn't cancelled Recursion Apr 2014 #43
I would rather they use the money to do something that will help people not kill them..... Swede Atlanta Apr 2014 #30
They are extremely lightly armed for bare minimum defense. These things cannot go on offense stevenleser Apr 2014 #32
Oh, they can certainly be used for offense. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #34
I hear you, I just dont think relying on the helos for offense makes it much of a threat. stevenleser Apr 2014 #40
A warship? Really? bunnies Apr 2014 #36
How many more of these unaffordable vessels? Owl Apr 2014 #42
 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
4. Looking forward the comments of Palin, and the team who designed the leflets with
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:17 PM
Apr 2014

cibles, calling people to " shot" congresspeople who voted for Obamacare.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
10. No sense of shame, no attempt at public decorum.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:00 AM
Apr 2014

What the hell kinds of households were these people raised in?

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. I don't know why but for some reason that really made my day
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:17 PM
Apr 2014

It isn't even near compensation for what she's had to endure but it is a reflection of the respect she has earned.

You want to talk heroes, this woman is really one in my opinion.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
37. I am a bit surprised about the lack of a UAV launch rail
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:23 PM
Apr 2014

Maybe make a Sea Predator or Sea Reaper they can land in the ocean and fish out with a Zodiac.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
39. Supposedly, there are modules you can swap in or out with these that allow different configs...
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 06:20 PM
Apr 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_class_littoral_combat_ship#Modular_mission_capability

Your guess is as good as mine whether this will work as advertised...

The Independence class carries a default armament for self-defense, and command and control. However, unlike traditional fighting ships with fixed armament such as guns and missiles, tailored mission modules can be configured for one mission package at a time. Modules may consist of manned aircraft, unmanned vehicles, off-board sensors, or mission-manning detachments.

The interior volume and payload is greater than some destroyers and is sufficient to serve as a high-speed transport and maneuver platform. The mission bay is 15,200 square feet (1,410 m2), and takes up most of the deck below the hangar and flight deck. With 11,000 cubic metres (390,000 cu ft) of payload volume, it was designed with enough payload and volume to carry out one mission with a separate mission module in reserve, allowing the ship to do multiple missions without having to be refitted.

One Mobicon Flexible Container Handling System is carried on each ship in order to move mission containers.

In addition to cargo or container-sized mission modules, the bay can carry four lanes of multiple Strykers, armored Humvees, and their associated troops. An elevator allows air transport of packages the size of a 20-foot-long (6.1 m) shipping container that can be moved into the mission bay while at sea. A side access ramp allows for vehicle roll-on/roll-off loading to a dock and allows the ship to transport the Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle.
 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
11. I can hear the peaceniks now-
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:11 AM
Apr 2014

'Like dude- Why would you honor a shooting victim with a machine of war, man. Not cool brah not cool.'



AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
33. She was never a peacenik by any measure I'm aware.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 10:59 AM
Apr 2014

But I would certainly hope someone ASKED her if she approved of this sort of tribute. I tend to assume someone did, but one never knows.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
35. Add me to that list.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:08 PM
Apr 2014

Seems amazingly inappropriate...guess it's cool if Giffords herself is kicking it off.

A hospital ship would have pleased me. A combat ship? Not the sort of weapons-free Giffords' ordeal ought to inspire, IMO.

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
17. I have the utmost respect for Rep. Giffords. Howerver, as a general rule,
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:43 AM
Apr 2014

I think naming ships after living people, and politicians in general, is something we can do without. I'd make an exception for notable presidents who are deceased for 100 years or more, such as Washington, et al, and those who served in combat like JFK. My opinion only.

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
18. and should have served in the Navy too
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 06:27 AM
Apr 2014

I really don't understand why they named a ship after her. She did not do anything really remarkable while in office, nor did she do anything special or outstanding for the Navy either. If surviving a shooting is the new standard for having a ship named after you, there are a whole bunch of shooting victims that should have ships named after them before she had one named after her.

Ms Gifford's is a lucky survivor of gun violence but she had the MONEY and notoriety to obtain the best treatment most do not.





Nailzberg

(4,610 posts)
29. I share that opinoin.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 05:30 AM
Apr 2014

Except for a few notable Presidents or naval heroes, I don't like naming warships after people. I especially don't like naming them after politicians.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
27. They ought to build a tuition free U.S.S. Gabrielle Giffords Junior College or 20.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 12:09 AM
Apr 2014

A combat ship? Seriously? To honor someone who was gunned down in a parking lot?

Man, we have GOT to grow up. Or maybe not.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
41. Grace Hopper was an amazing woman
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 07:45 PM
Apr 2014

and naming a ship after her was the absolutely the right thing to do. But Admiral Hopper had passed away before the USS Hopper was launched.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hopper_(DDG-70)

And for what it's worth, naming a navy ship after Gabrielle Giffords is so wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
43. Why is it wrong? She's a big reason the LCS wasn't cancelled
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 12:03 AM
Apr 2014

She was a huge proponent of the line on the Armed Services Committee.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
30. I would rather they use the money to do something that will help people not kill them.....
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 08:49 AM
Apr 2014

I know, I know.....having a strong military and ability to project military power serves as a warning and a defense with those that would do us harm.

But I would rather we invest that money elsewhere doing something that would help people like food stamps, education, health care premiums, etc.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
32. They are extremely lightly armed for bare minimum defense. These things cannot go on offense
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 10:48 AM
Apr 2014

It seems their main mission is to operate within a few hundred yard from shore and provide some support for troops on the beach. Ferrying them too and fro and minimal fire support. Their main two advantages over other ships seems to be their ability to operate in very shallow water and their high speed, estimated at about 51 Mph or 44 Knots.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
34. Oh, they can certainly be used for offense.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 11:07 AM
Apr 2014

They are technically blue water capable, even if both the Independence and Freedom class variants have had major sea trial issues. (Freedom broke down on it's way to Columbia, and on it's way to Hawaii, but it's been as far as Singapore.)

They are fast and light, but Independence is sort of a very light helicopter carrier, which means plenty of offensive firepower right there. Ship-killing or anti-sub capability even.

It's direct-fire weapons are pretty light though.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
40. I hear you, I just dont think relying on the helos for offense makes it much of a threat.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 06:24 PM
Apr 2014

The mujahideen showed what otherwise fairly unsophisticated fighters with basic shoulder launched anti aircraft weapons can do against a few helicopters.

The ship requires an aircraft carrier and various other vessels to provide air cover and support IMHO

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