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elleng

(131,227 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:13 PM Apr 2014

APPEALS COURT GRANTS FORMER ALABAMA GOVERNOR SIEGELMAN HEARING.

Last edited Sat Apr 19, 2014, 07:26 PM - Edit history (1)

The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals will hear an appeal filed by former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman. Court officials say the hearing is tentatively scheduled for the week of July 28.

Siegelman is serving a 78 month sentence for bribery, conspiracy and other charges. He's currently at Oakdale Federal Detention Center in Oakdale, Louisiana.

Court documents filed in the Middle District of Alabama detail records needed for this appeal. Those records include nine volumes of pleadings, 113 volumes of transcripts, and three sealed boxes/exhibits.

The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals is located in Atlanta.

http://www.wsfa.com/story/25284881/appeals-court-grants-former-alabama-hearing

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APPEALS COURT GRANTS FORMER ALABAMA GOVERNOR SIEGELMAN HEARING. (Original Post) elleng Apr 2014 OP
Good nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #1
A travesty. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2014 #2
Best Wishes Mr. Siegelman. nt AnotherDreamWeaver Apr 2014 #3
Well that's some good news for a change... ljm2002 Apr 2014 #4
I wish that a Democratic Admin would provide help to a political prisoner rhett o rick Apr 2014 #5
Me, too. madfloridian Apr 2014 #6
Why would this administration go against the Bush crime family? Enthusiast Apr 2014 #25
I see your point but explain what happened to stifle the Ohio attempt at stealing the 2012 election. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #26
That's one of the great electoral mysteries of our time. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #28
K&R. nt OnyxCollie Apr 2014 #7
He's guilty of the crime of being a Democrat who was elected governor of Alabama.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #8
Exactly. elleng Apr 2014 #19
+1000 Raksha Apr 2014 #36
Many good wishes, Mr. Siegelman. raging moderate Apr 2014 #9
Very good news Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2014 #10
Fingers crossed lillypaddle Apr 2014 #11
Didn't he make some kind of confession? FreedRadical Apr 2014 #12
No. The issue isn't whether "he did it or not" the issue is whether Siegelman's appointment of okaawhatever Apr 2014 #18
Thanks for the excellent explanation, okaa. elleng Apr 2014 #20
OH GOOD! Thanks elleng! Cha Apr 2014 #13
Omg that is great news!! Too late of course, this NEVER should have happened, but I am really sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #14
Rove should be waterboarded until we get the answers. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #30
It is unfathomable to me how this travesty has continued so long. Good luck, Mr. Siegelman hlthe2b Apr 2014 #15
kick and rec ! nt steve2470 Apr 2014 #16
Great news malaise Apr 2014 #17
It's about time. LoisB Apr 2014 #21
I met Siegelman at the 2008 Denver convention DFW Apr 2014 #22
Just Help bring Down Karl Rove in the Process! chuckstevens Apr 2014 #23
Can anyone explain The Wizard Apr 2014 #24
Sure. Those who hate him enough to do that are called 'Liberals'.... chknltl Apr 2014 #31
Turdblossoms are a protected species? Raksha Apr 2014 #37
Yep, protected! Ever try to get a permit to harvest one? n/t chknltl Apr 2014 #54
While I agree that the left hates him and wouldnt stoop to his level, there are more than one rhett o rick Apr 2014 #47
Yep, we wouldn't stoop to that level, the proof being that we can't even agree to put chknltl Apr 2014 #51
If we had a democratic republic, the people might have a say in what rhett o rick Apr 2014 #52
Hopefully the world understands the difference between democratic republic.... chknltl Apr 2014 #53
FREE DON!!! brett_jv Apr 2014 #27
Ding Ding Ding! chuckstevens Apr 2014 #40
I am guessing that Pres Obama is saving his pardon to off-set the pardons of rhett o rick Apr 2014 #48
He is in jail for something Rick Perry has done repeatedly. Let him out. McCamy Taylor Apr 2014 #29
Governor Siegelman has been a political prisoner far too long! santamargarita Apr 2014 #32
it's about time--Good luck, Governor! n/t librechik Apr 2014 #33
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #34
kick (nt) Babel_17 Apr 2014 #35
Thanks for this Casandia Apr 2014 #38
My fear or annoyance is bpositive Apr 2014 #39
thanks. more people might read this if you put siegelman in the headline.... certainot Apr 2014 #41
Done elleng Apr 2014 #42
great, i was trying to remember if he was georgia or alabama or... certainot Apr 2014 #45
The very best to you Governor Siegelman! lucca18 Apr 2014 #43
I'm so happy to hear this. Hope this works out. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #44
Yes a pardon from Obama is long overdue. Is he waiting untill he exits the W.House? YOHABLO Apr 2014 #46
I think he will pardon Gov Siegelman when he pardons Bush and Cheney. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #49
K & R AzDar Apr 2014 #50

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
4. Well that's some good news for a change...
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:05 AM
Apr 2014

...I sincerely hope Siegelman wins and that his sentence is overturned.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
5. I wish that a Democratic Admin would provide help to a political prisoner
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:10 AM
Apr 2014

that tried to fight the Bush Crime Family.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
25. Why would this administration go against the Bush crime family?
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 02:17 PM
Apr 2014

Wouldn't that be out of character? You make no sense.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
26. I see your point but explain what happened to stifle the Ohio attempt at stealing the 2012 election.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 02:41 PM
Apr 2014

Karl appeared to be befuddled (unless it was an act) that something went wrong with his plan. Who stifled the BFEE's plan?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
28. That's one of the great electoral mysteries of our time.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 02:52 PM
Apr 2014

Equal to Gore and Kerry whimpily riding into the sunset after they won, but lost, a presidential election.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
8. He's guilty of the crime of being a Democrat who was elected governor of Alabama....
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:38 AM
Apr 2014

According to Karl Rove.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
10. Very good news
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 01:01 AM
Apr 2014

How Gov. Siegelman has kept his sanity is a mystery to me. I remember years ago hearing him interviewed a number of times on Thom Hartmann's program. But for the most part, he's been abandoned by Democrats. Shameful.

okaawhatever

(9,469 posts)
18. No. The issue isn't whether "he did it or not" the issue is whether Siegelman's appointment of
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 10:08 AM
Apr 2014

Scrushy constitutes quid pro quo.

Siegelman and former HealthSouth chief Richard Scrushy were convicted in 2006. Prosecutors say they arranged $500,000 in contributions to Siegelman's campaign for a lottery in exchange for the governor appointing Scrushy to a hospital regulatory board.


From the FreeSiegelman.com website:

The supposed crime was that Scrushy, through HealthSouth,
made a major contribution to a lottery fund (not Gov. Siegelman's
campaign fund), in return for which Siegelman appointed Mr. Scrushy
to the Certificate of Need Board, which governs hospital expansions.

The indictment overlooked that Richard Scrushy previously served on
the CON board under three previous governors -- Guy Hunt, Jim
Folsom, Jr. and Fob James. The charges also ignored that Mr.
Scrushy didn't even want to be on this board. Instead, he saw it as
public service. More importantly, HealthSouth didn't need Mr. Scrushy
on the board, and the board passed nothing beneficial to HealthSouth
or Scrushy during Scrushy's term in question.

Further, the CON board did not, and does not, regulate HealthSouth,
nor does it regulate any other health care company in Alabama.

Significantly, neither of the two financial contributions at issue came
from Mr. Scrushy himself. The first came from a Maryland company,
Integrated Health Services, and went to the Alabama Education
Lottery Initiative -- not to Gov. Siegelman. The second came from
HealthSouth Corp. -- not Mr. Scrushy -- and went to the Alabama
Education Foundation (which acquired the debt of the failed lottery
initiative) and not to Gov. Siegelman.

Admittedly, Mr. Scrushy inspired these contributions, and they may
have gained him greater access to Siegelman generally. So what?
That is exactly what thousands of contributors to Gov. Riley's
campaign expect. It also is what state legislators expect their
contributors will receive, namely access. There is no law against this. It
is part of the democratic process.


There is no question as to Siegelman appointing Scrushy to the board. It was done in full public view, the donations were also publicly acknowledged. The reason Siegelman did everything in public view is because no one thought allowing someone to serve on a non-paying board for another term constituted quid pro quo.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
14. Omg that is great news!! Too late of course, this NEVER should have happened, but I am really
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 04:28 AM
Apr 2014

glad that he has not given up. It makes me SICK to know that Karl Rove was behind all this and so much more, and is still walking around free. Sickening.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
30. Rove should be waterboarded until we get the answers.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 03:08 PM
Apr 2014

It's not torture. More like a fraternity prank, you know.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
22. I met Siegelman at the 2008 Denver convention
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:50 AM
Apr 2014

Nicest guy you could ever want to meet. He said whatever happens to him individually was not important, but the scheme used to remove him from office and railroad him into jail was highly dangerous as a generic political tool.

"And for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail........."---Bob Dylan, "Chimes of Freedom"


 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
23. Just Help bring Down Karl Rove in the Process!
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:47 PM
Apr 2014

Yes, I want Don freed from political persecution, but that is not enough! Sweet Jesus, could we FINALLY prove that Turdblossom is guilty of a crime and send his treasonous ass to prison where it belongs?

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
31. Sure. Those who hate him enough to do that are called 'Liberals'....
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 03:21 PM
Apr 2014

... and turdblossoms are a protected species. No true Liberal would deliberately cause direct harm to a protected species.

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
37. Turdblossoms are a protected species?
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 05:54 PM
Apr 2014

I didn't realize they were endangered. It seems to me they are quite invasive, kinda like Roundup resistant weeds.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
47. While I agree that the left hates him and wouldnt stoop to his level, there are more than one
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 09:21 PM
Apr 2014

capitalist group vying for king of the mountain. Maybe the Koch Bros want to displace the BFEE. They might want to see Karl neutralized. I mean they gotta be pissed that Karl has taken their boy Christie out.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
51. Yep, we wouldn't stoop to that level, the proof being that we can't even agree to put
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:41 PM
Apr 2014

anyone from the BFEE under Congressional investigation for likely crimes against humanity. I was here when the anti impeach crowd shouted us down! My position remains the same: If the USA has as it boasts so loudly to the world, a government OF BY and FOR it's People then who is ultimately responsible for the crimes committed by OUR government? The answer to that question is NOT "We don't have enough votes in Congress"! Our crooks are indeed a 'Protected Species'! This observation is not bitterness on my part, just profound sadness because I firmly believe in democracy as being the best form of government and we are doing our best to show the world that it ain't the noblest.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
52. If we had a democratic republic, the people might have a say in what
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:03 PM
Apr 2014

our government does in our name.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
53. Hopefully the world understands the difference between democratic republic....
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:43 PM
Apr 2014

...and whatever it is we currently have in the USA. I can not help but be reminded of those good citizens of postwar Germany who were marched through the then recently liberated concentration camps. They did not have a democratic republic either.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
48. I am guessing that Pres Obama is saving his pardon to off-set the pardons of
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 09:29 PM
Apr 2014

Bush and Cheney and the gang.

Casandia

(660 posts)
38. Thanks for this
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 06:30 PM
Apr 2014

news. Keeping my fingers crossed that this finally will be over. I think of how Eric Holder let the senator from Alaska go free, but not Don Siegelman. Sickens me how Obama and other democrats in power turned their backs on this man.

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