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http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-lewis-wall-street-has-gone-insane-2014-4Michael Lewis is only getting madder as he promotes Flash Boys, an investigation into high frequency trading and what he calls the "rigged" underbelly of Wall Street.
He has been on every talk show and financial news panel in the land, arguing with, among others, Bill O'Brien, the president of the Bats Global Markets stock exchange, about whether or not he and his cohorts are ripping off their customers. If the 53-year-old started off angry, opposition to the book has sharpened his stance into a moral crusade. "I find this story really upsetting," he says over lunch in LA, where his publicity tour just ended. "The idea that the smartest, richest elites of society find this an acceptable activity. This predatory activity."
If it's emotional for Lewis, then the responses have been emotional too, given how unequivocal his accusations are. The cornerstone of Flash Boys, which sold a staggering 130,000 copies in the US in its first week of publication, is a discovery made by an obscure Canadian banker, Brad Katsuyama, who noticed that whenever he tried to execute a trade, the stock price moved before the order went through.
A long and tortured investigation revealed that the variable speeds at which trading information travels down fibre-optic cables to the exchanges was being exploited by brokers and high-frequency traders so-called for the volume of trades they make to jump the queue, buy the stocks in question and sell them back at a higher price to the person who expressed the original interest.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-lewis-wall-street-has-gone-insane-2014-4#ixzz2zWW4lcjY
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)of the financial guests they have on dis Michael Lewis and his assertions. He definitely touched a nerve
Some of their arguments are outrageous, for instance:
"when we had specialists, they were far worse than the flash traders"
So that is their justification? That says everything about the greedy bastard on wall street
IDemo
(16,926 posts)are essentially calling him a know-nothing. No surprise there, whether it's "Business Insider" or "CNN Money".
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Back to Liar's Poker - but usually in the aftermath. Wall Street doesn't mind when you talk about how bad they used to be; what he's doing now is talking about how bad they are, and they don't like it.
Bryant
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I am so enjoying this....one can always count on the eventual arrival of the karma train.
Scrutiny of high-frequency trading and whether it gives some investors unfair advantage intensified this year amid government probes and the March 31 publication of Flash Boys by Michael Lewis.
The lawsuit filed yesterday is one of the first by an institutional investor since U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder in March promised Congress a full investigation into whether high-frequency traders violated laws against trading on inside information.
One defendant in Providences complaint, Virtu Financial Inc., a high-frequency trader that delayed its initial public offering, has received inquiries from the office of New Yorks attorney general, Eric Schneiderman, according to a person familiar with the matter. Schneiderman announced last month that hes investigating high-frequency traders.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has said its looking into whether firms that engage in high-speed trades get an improper jump on other investors by using information about their trading to make profits.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-18/bofa-nyse-brokerages-sued-in-high-frequency-trading-case.html
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)economy.
Who is listening to Michael Lewis?
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Get out the vote!
pragmatic_dem
(410 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Lewis writes in plain english, with wit, and makes this finanacial story very clear, even if people don't like readng "finance books".
The other 2 writers who are so good at money tales are Matt Taibbi and Michael Hudson.
Taibbi just came out with The Divide, I have not browsed it, but it should be good.
He has also written:
Griftopia, "A brilliantly illuminating and darkly comic tale of the ongoing financial and political crisis in America"
The Great Derangement: A Terrifying True Story of War, Politics, and Religion
Smells Like Dead Elephants: Dispatches from a Rotting Empire
Spanking the Donkey: Dispatches from the Dumb Season
Michael Hudson wrote The Monster: How a Gang of Predatory Lenders and Wall Street Bankers Fleeced America--and Spawned a Global Crisis
2banon
(7,321 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Except I would say the price changes as soon as you start pumping the gas into your almost-totally-empty-so-you-can't-go-anywhere-else tank.
It's a total scam.
Right now, the way our markets work and with the flow of information, we have (it's from the efficient market hypothesis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficient-market_hypothesis ) what I was taught a semi-strong market. That means, other than insider info, every one is getting the same information at the same time and it's very difficult to make a buck without insider information. Or....without exploiting computer 'glitches' like this. If these greedy bastards can't make a buck in the market as it is currently because of a level playing field for everyone, they WILL cheat. The game is rigged.
JEB
(4,748 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)kag
(4,079 posts)Haven't heard much about it lately? We need to do it, and fast.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)long over due.
2banon
(7,321 posts)His voice is deceptively young sounding.. Yesterday I heard him during an hour long interview hosted by City Arts and Lectures series in San Francisco, broadcast on KQED radio. In his occasional reference to his past publications covering events a couple of decades ago, I would be taken aback, thinking he was too young to even be working much less writing about behind the scenes shenanigans in the financial markets.
I'd love to see some of the video clips on Bloomberg and CNBC etc facing off with those asshats on the subject.
brewens
(13,582 posts)It might not technically be illegal because of new technology making it possible but it should be.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Order flow is salable. That's how HFT firms get it
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)...that some of the most successful and respected people in it are basically casino operators running rigged games?
paleotn
(17,912 posts)...his subjects are sometimes a bit behind the curve. Nothing wrong in that. Most people are.
Even this is a little stale....Wall Street's newest scam....uh, I mean securitized investment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/08/wall-street-figured-out-how-to-securitize-your-rent-should-you-worry/
Robert Hockett says it best...
Forget about ever owning again ( a middle class family's largest and most important investment ) that is unless you want to pay way more than the house is worth. That's the only way to beat out the all cash vultures who want to buy your dream home and then rent it to you, turning you into a virtual serf. Eventually, we'll end up like some giant banana republic, with 1% owning all the land and housing stock, and the rest of us own virtually nothing.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Every damn decade we now have to have this discussion: X thing that Wall Street does is CRAAAAAAAAZZZZY! No, the whole fucking thing is destructive BY design. It is an insane way to run a society and allocate resources. It's stupid. Capitalism is fucking stupid and destructive, and wall Street is its ultimate manifestation. The violence that Wall Street thinking inflicts on populations isn't an accident. It's structural. It;'s how capitalism actually works: by murdering and stealing from others.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Read Matt Taibbi's "Griftopia". He writes in plain English how Wall Street has seized control of the commodity markets and manipulate the price of oil and food commodities. He discusses why we were paying $4.50 a gallon in 2008. All Wall Street manipulation for reasons of their own profiteering. A must read.
Skittles
(153,159 posts)if all the thieving Wall Street bastards were incarcerated
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Skittles
(153,159 posts)*YES INDEED*
nikto
(3,284 posts)We still have The Death penalty---That could keep the prisons from being unnecessarily crowded.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,112 posts)burrowowl
(17,639 posts)russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Of course it is insane. Trying to pretend it deals with the human aspect is laughable. Human capital is disposable capital to a conglomerate.