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Can we please stop calling them "Conservatives"? (Original Post) Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2014 OP
I like calling them "Conservatives" rock Apr 2014 #1
But it sounds so Fracking polite! Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2014 #2
Fifth columnists House of Roberts Apr 2014 #3
Conservative - a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #4
I've often wondered SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #5
There was a time when they had a well developed line of bullshit Cosmocat Apr 2014 #17
I call them Conservatoids el_bryanto Apr 2014 #6
How about Conservarrhoid IADEMO2004 Apr 2014 #25
reactionary, woman-hating cretins works for me. niyad Apr 2014 #7
Lets call them Baggers SummerSnow Apr 2014 #8
Sociopaths LordGlenconner Apr 2014 #9
The Regressive Party (coined by Rob Reich) nt Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #10
That's what I call em PrestonLocke Apr 2014 #15
That's really good. stage left Apr 2014 #24
The only thing Conservatives conserve is the misery index. tenderfoot Apr 2014 #11
I call them many things. SamKnause Apr 2014 #12
Gangster pseudo-capitalists. Faryn Balyncd Apr 2014 #13
I'll stick to calling them Tealiban or American Taliban. Bryce Butler Apr 2014 #14
Cold-hearted, mean-spirited... 3catwoman3 Apr 2014 #16
FDR called them Economic Royalists. ErikJ Apr 2014 #18
I've never called them "Conservatives". They're Reactionaries. Fuddnik Apr 2014 #19
I deal with this conundrum by Bortman33 Apr 2014 #20
call them what they are,,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2014 #21
I get the point, but it really does not matter Cosmocat Apr 2014 #22
There are social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, and RW Authoritarians. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #23
Sunday morning talk shows are so outdated bluestateguy Apr 2014 #26
they are conservatives and people finally see that it's not really a good thing JI7 Apr 2014 #27
They're not Conservatives. They're CRIMINALS meow2u3 Apr 2014 #28
Yes! It's a long ass ol word that means absolutely nothing when Cha Apr 2014 #29

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
2. But it sounds so Fracking polite!
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 11:51 AM
Apr 2014

There has got to be something else not so polite, yet ironic at the same time.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. Conservative - a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 11:58 AM
Apr 2014

established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change; specifically : such a philosophy calling for lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs (as retirement income or health-care coverage)

So I woiuld say, no. What we should do is point out the drastic consequences of a Conservative
Political philosophy.

Conservative, as a political philosophy, has its own definition. It is related lingquisticly to "Conserve" but the two words do not mean the same thing.

 

SevenSixtyTwo

(255 posts)
5. I've often wondered
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 11:59 AM
Apr 2014

As well why they're called conservative. The only thing conservative about them is what they're willing to pay others to work for them. Beyond that it's reckless disregard for everything and everyone. I think today's conservatives are more extremists than conservative. Ayn Rand fanatics would be more fitting.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
17. There was a time when they had a well developed line of bullshit
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:32 PM
Apr 2014

about "conservatism" that made sense at a very superficial level.

But, they have gone in so many half cocked directions over the last 15 years they don't even give pretense to it anymore cause where they are today - in total opposition to Barrack Obama, is somehow in total opposition to where they were 20 years ago except what the power to be really care about - wage suppression and economic class warefare.

niyad

(113,279 posts)
7. reactionary, woman-hating cretins works for me.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 12:13 PM
Apr 2014

which is why I also hate the term "radical right". there is nothing RADICAL (as in, getting to the root of something) about them.

stage left

(2,962 posts)
24. That's really good.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 06:43 PM
Apr 2014

But, if you called them that, you'd have to explain it to them. I usually call them rightwing squirrely nut job fundamentalists, the simple people of the soil. You know------------morons.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
13. Gangster pseudo-capitalists.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 01:17 PM
Apr 2014



Interestingly, after the CEO's, banksters, and sundry other insider 1%er's have taken their share, the return to those who actually provide the working capital (such and the millions of average Americans who have invested their IRA's, 401K's, SEP-IRA's, qualified retirement plans, union and teacher retirement plans, taxable mutual funds, ETC ) has been for the last decade, after adjustment for inflation, close to zero.

So . . . not only do the CEO's, banksters, and sundry other insider 1%er's rip off their customers and their workers, but they simultaneously rip off those who provide the capital for the enterprises they have hijacked.

The REAL capital providers are not the over-compensated CEO's and financial industry gangsters, but the under-compensated investors such as the California Teacher Retirement system, etc.

A system which rewards manipulators and not the savers who provided the capital has no more right to be labeled "capitalism" than right wing destroyers have to be labeled "conservative".

K & R.




 

Bortman33

(102 posts)
20. I deal with this conundrum by
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:37 PM
Apr 2014

always writing "CONservative",
minimally thinking "CON ~ Fricking ~ servative",
and speaking "CON. . servative".

The ever so slight pause after CON, always sees to get a response.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
22. I get the point, but it really does not matter
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:37 PM
Apr 2014

They just don't care anymore.

They have done some many half witted, desperate turns that they have contradicted their "principles" so many times they can't even keep up with it.

It has degraded to simple tribal bullshit, and you can call "them" whatever you want, but it won't change their position one fricken bit.

I can't fight it anymore.

REALLY, REALLY good people who I know and like, who are kind and generous and civic minded, all completely immersed in the republican bullshit complaining about Obamacare, about raising the minimum wage, about how hard it to get a mortgage now because THE GOVERNMENT for no good reason in their minds, requires more paperwork to get a loan ...

All things that are good for them, all things THEY need, but ... Because they don't have someone from their team in the White House, fuck it all ...

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
23. There are social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, and RW Authoritarians.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:50 PM
Apr 2014

"Conservatives" is a rather a broad brush but we live in a world of "texting" instead of careful thought.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
26. Sunday morning talk shows are so outdated
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 09:52 PM
Apr 2014

They are only for the Washington establishmentarians and the elite media to talk to themselves.

I'd rather just watch football and baseball on Sunday mornings.

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