It must be so tiring to be hateful

[kimbutgar]

All I hear from the right/Kkk/tea party/GOP are hate Obama, hate liberals, hate minorities, hate Muslims, hate Jews, hate poor people, hate women etc.

No love coming from them, no love thy neighbor as thy self, no I'm my brothers keeper. The fox brain washed right wingers are seeping in a toxic stew of hate. They are like sock puppets mimicking hate. This Bundy dude hates America because he has to pay taxes like the rest of us. He needs to follow the advice people like him in the US used to say in the 60's , America love it or leave it. Bundy and his treasonous followers are enemies of America with all their hate.

Yesterday, I stopped 2 women in a store getting into a fight one Hispanic, one white over a line confusion. One accused the other of cutting in line.It was so petty I told them to stop it as it was Easter and a day of peace and love. They stopped fighting but both made racist overtone comments to each other before they shut up.

Hate is toxic, I'll take love any day and it's not exhausting either. Will the haters get tired anytime soon?

[shenmue]

1. I wonder too

I think hate is too exhausting and sad.

[madaboutharry]

26. I agree.

I would think it drains a person of all their energy.

[NobodyHere]

2. If only this board was a lovefest

Excuse me, there's a gender war thread I want to get in on.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

16. it's a shame you're bringing it up in that fashion;

Actually, the "gender war" issue could teach us ALL a lot about teaching peace. It could teach us a LOT about learning to listen to other perspectives, and practice controlling our angry impulses.

It can be a real opportunity to stop and think, and reflect.

I can only speak for myself, here, but I think the core of the problem demonstrates unwillingness or lack of skill to listen and respond respectfully to another person.

So, it's not about everyone sighing about too much hate in the world. Good to know, but then, we should be interested what to do about that... Myself, in My everyday life. And, of course, "WE" is really each one of us as an individual, repeatedly asking ourselves, "how can I improve myself?" (Because the only person we can change is ourselves.)

So, again--for myself, I think doing my best to listen and explain without hostility is my attempt to do something positive. That's what I personally try to do, anyway. Not "throwing the first stone", as they say.

I know I see good conversations here when men respond to women by saying things like, "Hmmm, that is a viewpoint I never experienced." and, "I see what you mean." Or, "I don't see what you mean--here is where I'm confused..."


oh well, that's enough out of me....your remark got me thinking out loud.

[Raine1967]

17. Amen.

All those words you wrote were the same/similar thoughts I had after reading said post.

I love this op.

[Tsiyu]

34. ^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^

Think out loud more often

[Lady Freedom Returns]

3. No.

[babylonsister]

4. I so agree with you; it tires me and makes me angry.

Hate is useless and potentially dangerous, but there's a lot of it out there.

It can be scary.

[kelliekat44]

5. Doesn't hate shorten lives? nt

[Oakenshield]

9. You would think so...

But then Fred Phelps lived until the ripe age of 84. If hate shortens lives, it doesn't do it fast enough.

[Raine1967]

19. You know…

Phelps quite possibly could have lived 10-20 more years…

and had he left his church…

he would have experienced real love.

[JoeyT]

14. For everyone around the hateful, probably.

It seems like people that hate everyone almost always live to a ripe old age.

[Nay]

33. Isn't that the truth. The people who have to be around them are the

ones who are always exhausted.

[liberal N proud]

6. Much simpler to live and let live

Hate will make you an ugly person inside if not outwardly as well.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

7. Exactly. And all you have to do is ask everyone else if they want that guy to get what he wants.

[Katashi_itto]

8. Listen to some of the people here, haters never get tired.

[cer7711]

10. Sadly, Hate Is Energizing

For a certain kind of person.

Rigid thinking + narrow-minded parochialism + lack of empathy + low self-esteem + willful ignorance and/or outright stupidity = Evil.

[meadowlark5]

38. I have long thought that

Anger and hate are easy emotions to feel. It's much harder to be happy, feel happy and appreciative and kind.

I think so many of these people have sad, empty lives. It's drudgery. They get up, go work for the man and never get ahead. They may have nothing to look forward to, everyday is the same and it's boring and blah. But when you have a whole host of media sources telling you to be angry and hateful, that person actually "feels" something. An emotion, though toxic, they still feel something as opposed to blah and nothing.

[CrispyQ]

41. This:

I think so many of these people have sad, empty lives. It's drudgery. They get up, go work for the man and never get ahead. They may have nothing to look forward to, everyday is the same and it's boring and blah. But when you have a whole host of media sources telling you to be angry and hateful, that person actually "feels" something. An emotion, though toxic, they still feel something as opposed to blah and nothing.

They're mad cuz they played by the rules & things didn't turn out like they were told they would. So someone like Limbaugh gets on the radio & says it's the brown people's fault, the feminazi's fault, the fags fault & he uses inflammatory language to rile the hate. There was an old Star Trek episode, the original, where a hate type entity took a hold of the Enterprise, feeding & spreading hate throughout the ship's crew. Limbaugh & his ilk are that entity & the haters are being played, while the 1% loot the country.

[Maynar]

44. "Wolf in the Fold" was the episode title

Based on the legend of Jack the Ripper, I believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_in_the_Fold

[CrispyQ]

47. The hate monster - must be a recurring theme.

I was thinking of this one. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dove_(episode)

[brett_jv]

50. LOL ... ST NERDS UNITE!!!

Posted the same minute, actually ...

[brett_jv]

48. Here's how much of a ST nerd *I* am, lol ...

I'm pretty sure s/he actually is referring to this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dove

One of the few good third season episodes ...

[Maynar]

51. Nice!

Watching it (remastered) as we type.

[cer7711]

58. That Last Sentence: Right On!

Yep, your analogy is spot on: Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/Savage collectively ARE the Hate Monster.

If only more people would laugh at them . . .

[mac56]

42. Exactly.

[cer7711]

57. Exactly!

That's exactly right. (No pun intended.) Sadly.

As adults, we should all be better than this.

Or as the cliche goes: "See?! This is why we can't have nice things."

[Trust Buster]

11. Right wing nuts see everything today through the prism of absolutism.

Every public school teacher must go.

Everyone on food stamps or unemployment are lazy.

Every liberal wants to take away their guns.

The list goes on and on with this crowd. No shades of grey with them.

[nikto]

24. That's because ALL RIGHT WINGERS suck

Just kiddin'.







Only 98% of 'em do.

[AverageJoe90]

12. Sad but true; hate never does anything but hurt. But we can be better than that, too!

To be honest, personal prejudices, racist or otherwise, are something that can affect anybody(regardless of nationality or social status)), and it's something humans as a whole must confront. Hate never did the world any good, and I know that I try my best to be a good person every day of my life. Ultimately, I think the good people of the world WILL eventually win over the racists, whether they be David Duke or Louis Farrakhan, and all the other extremists, be they diehard Fundies like Pat Robertson, or Islamists like the Muslim Brotherhood, or militia wackos like Mr. Bundy, etc.

I DO have faith(if you can call it that) in humanity overall, and I'm not afraid to admit that.

[chknltl]

15. GREAT post thank you for saying it AverageJoe90. nt

[no1uno]

13. Damn Easter Bunny....

Two of my sons are career Paramedic/Firefighters and said that their 24 hour shift on Easter Sunday was hell. They said all night long they were on runs of people..."beating the hell out of each other."

[awoke_in_2003]

35. The holidays...

seem to really bring out the crazy in some

[mountain grammy]

18. Good post. I agree and have had the same thoughts many times.

Real leaders, like Martin Luther King, for example, preach a message of love, hope, help, and peace. He was always positive. Why? Because he "had a dream."

The haters just have nightmares.

[Raine1967]

20. I have to say, I don't hate. I do get tired:

I get tired of feeling like I am rolling a boulder uphill. I get tired when the big picture takes over the every day part of life.

and when I get tired, I take a break, I turn around and use that boulder as a way to rest. (it works well as an image in my mind)

[47of74]

21. Being around hateful people is draining

I find it incredibly draining just being I the same room with such people.

[McCamy Taylor]

22. Some people act like love itself is toxic.

Like telling someone "I love you" is cheating.

[Jenoch]

23. Let's be honest.

There are a lot of posts on DU with hate-filled messages.

[lovemydog]

29. Agree

Too much criticism of fellow progressives, imho.

[blkmusclmachine]

25. ,

,

[MisterP]

27. and it's always so goddamn BORING: it's either "anyone of any consequence was secretly white"

how much time and effort do the neo-Nazis spend cut-and-pasting comments about how every race has its own continent except whites and only white are subject to race-mixing to get rid of them somehow and how whites are fighting oppression just like the Tibetans--and them spamming it across every YouTube comment? or filling dozens and dozens of Easter eggs with your whining?

[pragmatic_dem]

28. We killed 100s of thousands in Iraq, cost us trillions. Over nothing. That's how much we hate. -nt

[JustAnotherGen]

30. I fear

That it is simply part of the human condition.

[Populist_Prole]

31. It really is exhausting: But inexplicably energizing to haters

From the hard-righters I know, you'd swear their goal is to beat their chests hating the left on their death bed.

I know a few, but my own father stands out and is unbelievably partisan; Everything, and I mean everything, is politics...and in such an unabashedly spiteful way. Unreal. Here's just a few examples:

- Hating of movies because an actor is "a left winger" or has a progressive theme ( ie: is not overtly pro-neocon )

- Liking shitty movies because of conservative actors or a conservative message, and pushing them on you.

- Suddenly disliking cars he liked because the company got a bail-out ( even though they repaid the $ )

- A sudden liking for big restaurant chains with draconian employee relations, and anti-ACA stances, even tough he knew/knows their food sucks.

- An equally sudden disliking of companies "too left wing", whether real or imagined. Some interesting cognitive dissonance here: He knows Costco is the better store and begrudgingly patronizes them but sneers at them for "being too left wing", while patronizing and singing the praises of Wal-Mart at every opportunity as he admires their business model.

- Despite not having attended church in the last 50 years, barring weddings/funerals, has suddenly become a churchgoer and worried about the US's "judeo-christian heritage". Even more ironic since he's always disliked Jewish people but now damn near worships Isreal in deference to hawkish anti-muslim foreign policy; as per the neocon playbook.

I've brought this up at times; how much expenditure of energy, how exhausting it must be, to frame EVERYthing politically, and act accordingly. They love it. Feel like they're fighting the good fight, and while I'm sure, despite their chest-beating, know they're demographic dinosaurs, seem energized with the feeling they're going down swinging.

There is no reaching these putzes. I'm thoroughly convinced. We just have to wait for biology to fix the situation.

[mylye2222]

56. The haters are feeding with civilized people's energy.

Their ploy isto destroy liberal legitimate place to political debating areas. Their thirst for unlimited power is obvious. They got the mass media by 90% to serve their hatred, now they want the internet too!!!

[MrScorpio]

32. You have to understand that people that hateful all use a completely different thinking process...

Rationalizing from your own prospective isn't going to work.

They thrive on this type of hatred, as if they didn't have Obama, hate liberals, hate minorities, hate Muslims, hate Jews, hate poor people, hate women etc, they find someone else.

It's a never ending journey to hell for folks like that, especially whenever they allow others to dictate to them to direct their hatred against certain others.

[Tsiyu]

36. The weird thing is

a lot of the folks who watch and listen to the hate are actually really loving people when they aren't discussing politics.

They help out their families and friends and they welcome all to their businesses. But they also do gossip when they get around a "safe" person, and they tend to believe misfortune in others is due to a fault in the others. Misfortune in their own lives is always the devil or the government's fault.

One on one you can reach them. But they are in a very comfortable place watching and listening to Hate Media, as their own parents often spewed this hate, and it is familiar to them.

One friend seems to be catching on - that the media try to divide people - and is amenable to discussions. But the level of FEAR in this person is, I believe, directly related to her level of love for FOX Noos.

Good on you for stopping the fight. People are on edge, and the media are doing their best to ramp that up. Each of us needs to try to do as you have done.

[mac56]

43. This.

[Octoberfurst]

37. I agree!

Right-wngers live on hate. It's who they are. And, yes, I will grant you that there is hate on the progressive side too. But I think most of our hate is directed at those who espouse cruel policies or are bigots in one form or another. The Right just hates people for who they are. In other words if you are gay, liberal, a minority, non-Christian, etc you are automatically hated. You're "the other".
And I agree that right-wingers live in a black & white world. No shades of grey for them! Christians---good! Muslims--bad! Whites---good! Blacks---bad! For some reason they seem think that if America was just made up of White, Christian, heterosexual, conservatives that America would be a paradise. It's stupid, but I firmly believe that is the case.
I have listened to talk radio and have watched Fox News ---as much of it as I could stand anyway---to see what the other side is saying. They always present "us vs them" scenarios. It's the "real" Americans against the welfare lovin', big government promoting, God-hating, unpatriotic, lazy "libtards" and their allies in the gay and minority community. Yep we are the ones who are destroying America and MUST be stopped at any cost! That's why the Right loves to talk about "2nd Amendment solutions" and civil war all the time. It's like they are itching to see blood on the streets while they enact their Rambo fantasies. It's actually pretty frightening when you read the blogs on conservative sites. The hate is palatable and they can't wait for the "revolution" to start. I have tried to talk some self to them but they immediately dismiss me and tell me how much I hate this country and should get the hell out. It's quite sad actually. They live in a toxic world of hate and promote violence. I can't imagine what it is like to be angry ALL the time.

[Populist_Prole]

49. Good observations, and welcome to DU

All that anger just can't be healthy. It's downright unhealthy to the body, even if it makes them feel good.

[Gary 50]

39. No love coming from them?

Not quite true. They love guns, violence, wars, billionaires, Christmas, intimidation, tax cuts, make believe Texans, morons (Sarah), child labor, stand your ground, privatizing (war, schools, prisons etc.) and raping the environment. Plenty of love if you look in the RIGHT places.

[radicalliberal]

40. Unfortunately, not soon enough! n/t

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

45. It's not easy to love and forgive.

But we should still try.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

46. It's what killed Andrew Breibart

He died stewing in his own bile.

[IronLionZion]

52. Hate is its own punishment

Hateful people live truly miserable lives. The worst is when their hatred causes them to hurt someone else, which is often the case if they feel like they've been wronged somehow. Hurt people hurt people. Kudos to anyone who has the patience and love to deal with hateful people in a civil manner. I usually try to avoid them because it often leads to conflict.

Happiness is a choice.

[toby jo]

53. It's definitely its own punishment.

Every so often you turn around and realize some piece of growth, you let a little more light in and around and about, and it's good.

And you watch the haters. And you see exactly what you said - it's a form of punishment. Like nailing your head to the ground.

[IronLionZion]

54. Like Yoda in Star Wars told us

Fear turns to anger, and anger turns to hate. It's all rooted in deep fears and insecurities, which also makes for a miserable life. Confident people are not usually so hateful.

[heaven05]

55. don't count on it

per your last question.