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Vice President Joe Biden made a highly publicized trip to Kiev on Monday in a show of support towards the unelected, coup installed government of Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk or "Yats" as he is endearingly referred to by the US regime changers. The "Easter truce" was shattered when more than likely US backed neo-Nazi militias (or perhaps paid mercenaries ) engaged in a gunfight near Slavyansk resulting in at least three deaths. The corrupt US state-corporate media had the back of the occupying junta in Kiev though and blamed it on Russia and that horrible, horrible man in Vladimir Putin. By now anyone with even an inkling of sense can fully see that just about everything that comes out in the US media are the lies of neocon propagandists itching to put some American boots on the ground in East Ukraine -- just not theirs. When it comes to a cowardly lot of bitches and bastards who are always foaming at the mouth to send the sons and daughters of other less well-heeled Americans to murder, torture and risk being killed or maimed themselves there are none more adept than the embedded neoconservatives who have like termites eaten their way into what was once an admired and honorable democracy. The neocons have company now in the liberal interventionists and their "improve or we'll kill you" crusade to make the world into a 'better' place -- according to their vision. Together they are a toxic and volatile mix that may prove to be fatal barring the miraculous backing down by those who are sane of a renegade US government led by the petulant narcissist that is Barack Obama.
The poisonous hydra that is the US media is doing their damned level best to continue to agitate for the confrontation -- and a hoped for toppling of Putin the evil-doer which is a fantasy and the provocations continue. Now there is the tale that the sanction twins Obama and the stammering goon John "Skull and Bones" Kerry are going to go after $40 billion of Putin's own dough. It is ridiculous that the parasitical global finance mafia and their military arm in Washington would go so far as to steal the money that Putin allegedly skimmed from his own people. Were it a war movie it could be called "Kerry's Heroes". Recall after the fall of the Soviet Union that there was a US sanctioned looting of Russia by chosen oligarchs under the 'leadership' of the cartoon figure that was the drunken lout Boris Yeltsin. It is truly a symptom of the now cancerous late stage of looter capitalism as exemplified by the ruling class of the US of A that everything has to be monetized, including revenge.
Hell, with the way that the lies continue to pile up -- including that debunked whopper of the forced registration of Jews in East Ukraine that just keeps popping up in the US media -- it is questionable whether Putin even has the money in that Swiss bank account or it will be created out of thin air or otherwise temporarily shifted from the black budget to provide the illusion that will drive the media coverage. Personally, I don't think that Putin is that f*cking stupid to stash the money where it could be easily found by the double-dealing jackals in Washington, London and New York. Then here is also once again that serious hypocrisy of the US political class, which has one of the most corrupt political systems that now exists with a millionaire occupied Congress having the moral high ground to wag that big red, white and blue finger at anyone.
While Biden breaks bread with "Yats" and his neo-Nazis and fascists in Kiev the job of selling what may well be the coming slaughter by extremist right-wing militias, some who lionize the fiendish WW II Nazi collaborator and mass murderer Stepan Bandera the disinformation machine in The Homeland continues to be set on high. In the most recent whopper, the New York Times, our nation's 'paper of record' has now reached back into the Judith Miller days to sell the war on Russia via Ukraine. Michael Gordon, a collaborator of the disgraced Miller whose work on behalf of Dick Cheney and the neocons in spreading the lies that led to the ongoing blood soaked attack on Iraq is at it again. I regularly read the work of Robert Parry of Consortium News who is a true investigative reporter of the likes that are no longer tolerated in the debased domestic media. I excerpt from his latest piece which calls into question the NYT and Gordon for what for all intents and purposes is yet another bullshit story. The Parry piece is entitled "Another NYT-Michael Gordon Special?" from which I excerpt:
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http://www.opednews.com/articles/Biden-Goes-to-Kiev-as-Corr-by-Donn-Marten-American-Foreign-Policy_Disaster-Capitalism_Economic-Terrorism_Lies-Media-140422-206.html?show=votes
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)felt his writings no longer fit in with the profit driven US media.. I miss him already, always liked his appearances on MSNBC and you could rely on his reporting..
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)He was such a reliable journalist as he so loudly beat the Clinton impeachment drums as he functioned as the public face for Lucianne Goldberg and Ann Coulter and was an avid tool for Ken Starr. Fuck him.
I have never been an Isikoff fan.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)The chief conduit and spoke-shill for the cabal setting out to impeach President Clinton? The man is not fit to do write-ups for neighborhood free paper....
"Speak of it never. Think of it always."
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)what she had for lunch?
The one who frolicked with Ann coulter as she struggled to write a definition of sexual contact that included blowjobs?
The one who tried to paint Linda Tripp in a favorable light????
That piece of shit was run out of DC on a fucking rail. Fuck him.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)dollars, money we were told we don't have to feed our own children, being 'invested' in yet another conflict that has zero to do with us?
First we were told 'we are not involved'. That was a lie, easily proven. Now I suppose someone will come along with the 'we're saving their democracy' routine.
Seems there are investors who don't want to use THEIR money betting on this latest economic disaster who WILL profit from our tax dollars. But I want to know what WE THE PEOPLE get out of supporting a pretty dubious 'government' the result of a coup d'etat, led by a party of Neo Nazis.
This is Europe's and Russia's problem. What business do the American people have there? I know what business the Global Investors have there and everywhere, but who benefits from our investment of tax dollars? We sure didn't benefit from our billions of tax dollars in Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else/
The US media is not a news dispenser, it is dispenses Corporate Propaganda. But didn't we know that already?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)As long as we have another country to standardize on the NATO platform all will be well for the defense contractors.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)deposited it in offshore accounts, leaving the country's economy in a shambles. They of course are untouchable, in fact our leaders admire their 'entrepreneurship' and we bail them out when their gambling debts are more than they can handle.
So now, we are there ready to hand them over to the IMF where Western Powers will enslave them with debt which they can never pay off, and then take their national treasures to pay off the debt imposed on them. It's an old story by now. Europe is in ruins, economically, but the 'investors' have made out like the bandits they are.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)He has nothing but a capacity for tirade and perhaps a desire to do lame imitations of the Rude One. He knows, and understands, nothing about the events he is trying to comment on.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)this garbage. Unrec.
On edit, I mean the external link.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Assuming you meant the external web site.
Do you ever consider you might be supporting a neocon agenda and that like Iraq the dossier is being sexed up?
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Ever consider some people know more about this than some asshat who gets his dribble on this crap site? It's garbage not even worth refuting...learn a little about the history of that area...Nad's post are great...and you'll see what kind of crap that is.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Promoting peace makes more sense then promoting tension, military spending and war.
penultimate
(1,110 posts)But why is it that so many only apply that toward the US? that concept should also be applies toward Russia too, but so many here are only critical of the US as if Russia isn't doing anything wrong.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)They started when snowden got asylum, got hot and heavy with the Olympics.
Today they've moved into wolverines territory. That many are promoting the Cheney McCain agenda is telling.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Putin is the bad guy in this, sorry to break it to you...it;'s the everything we do as Americans suck meme is tiresome. And you don't have to want a military response (I don't) to realize just what scum Putin and what he's up to.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)For the right wing government of Ukraine.
Victoria Neuland is a neocon married to the guy who founded the "Project for the New American Century". You my friend are promoting the neocon agenda and there is no daylight between those obsessed with cri me a river and Ukraine and the architect interventionists McCain and Cheney.
Even the Europeans who have this mess on their doorstep are urging caution.
Those who are obsessed with Ukraine serve the interests of an expansionist NATO and a new cold war. I assume NATO and the Pentagon were worried we were going to demand our peace dividend, seeing as the two wars we're in are winding down.
Where was the west when puti put turned chechnya into a wasteland, the hipocracy is amazing.
Duck and cover generation eh...
I want my peace dividend, a bagful of wolverines and stale memes from the 80's doesn't do anything for Americans.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I thought Russia sending troops into the Ukraine, and prior to that, into the Crimea was in itself, promoting a new cold war.
Or is thinking that simply promoting another cold war and throwing caution to wind?
blm
(113,052 posts)and your approval ratings will go way up with them and they'll support you on all your military decisions, even if they are blatantly bad for the country.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Maybe go back to OPs about knitting?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Must sting when people call out your agenda as coming from PNAC and the zombie neocons.
Since we're resurrecting 1980's memes...
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)zero return for the American people? Forget politics for a minute and think, who benefits from this latest investment of OUR MONEY in yet another conflict that is the business of Europe and Russia but which know NOTHING about.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)(For any juror not getting the reference, it is not suggesting Joe Biden is actually a Nazi)
tritsofme
(17,377 posts)That drivel like this is seriously written, or that you appear to lap it up.
JI7
(89,249 posts)to make fun of those who are defending Putin .
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)Biden's neo-Nazis and fascists?
Why The Fuck are you linking to something that may as well be from Free Republic, given the amount of complete BS and hatred for Democrats that it contains?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)zero interest for the American people and who stand to gain NOTHING from THEIR investment of money we are told WE DON'T have for the unemployed, for school lunches? Talked to any actual Americans about this lately? They are furious over yet another money drain for the top 1% here who are the ONLY ones who will benefit from this as was the case in Iraq?? Afghanistan, Syria, Libya etc.
DU appears to have forgotten the American PEOPLE when it comes to this latest 'intervention' paid for with our tax dollars which WE CANNOT AFFORD, unless they are lying about that also.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)it's quite reasonable for other countries to get diplomatically involved. Do you really think that the cost of Joe Biden going to Ukraine, or Kerry to Geneva, is so high that it would better to say "no, we'll shut down the State Department, tell the countries we made treaties with they're on their own now, and tell Putin we don't care if he invades anywhere as long as it's not the USA"?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)around the globe, that's okay right?
Do you know ANYTHING about that region of the world? You seem to be unaware of treaties and agreements and the history of the region and are just repeating misinformation the rest of the world knows is misinformation.
Russia didn't have to send troops to Ukraine, they have always had troops there in accordance with an agreement made. But don't let details like the facts get in the way of the propaganda machine known now as the Corporate Media.
The problem for those spreading propaganda and lies, see the fake 'soldiers' etc now is that people have access to actual NEWS from all over the world. They have access to REAL journalists outside the US which has ZERO, think about this, ZERO investigative journalists working for the Corporate Media. All have been sidelined due to the need to lie with impunity which we witnessed throughout the Bush years first hand.
But the younger generation in the US doesn't depend on the Corporate Media for news they grew up having access to other media and are not as easily fooled as was intended.
That is why they can't get a consensus even here in the US anymore, as over 70% of the population wants us to stay our of Ukraine. Not that anyone is going to listen the people, here or there. But it does show that all the propaganda is having zero effect other than, as research shows, the most ignorant members of the population, Faux viewers eg, long known to be the most ignorant Americans.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)So it's amazing to see some DUers, like you, giving Putin a pass for annexing Crimea. You thought a military takeover by the USA was wrong; why don't you think a military takeover by Russia is wrong?
Yes, of course I "know something about that region"; I know, for instance, that the agreement did not allow Russia to take the roads and airports of Crimea by force, because their troops were only allowed to exercise in areas previously agreed with the Ukrainian government.
Russia has clearly and unambiguously recognised Ukraine and its present borders. This was confirmed in:
The Alma Ata Declaration of December 1991, which consigned the Soviet Union to history,
The Budapest memorandum of 1994, offering security guarantees to Ukraine in exchange for removing nuclear weapons from its territory
The 1997 agreement on the stationing of the Black Sea fleet in Crimean ports.
The 1997 agreement, extended for an additional 25 years in 2010, authorises the presence of Russian ships in Crimean harbours, along with the presence of a large military infrastructure, including training grounds, artillery ranges and other installations. However, major movements of Russian forces require consultation with the Ukrainian authorities and the agreed force levels cannot be increased unilaterally.
Contrary to these obligations, Russia has augmented its forces in Crimea without the consent the Ukraine. It has deployed them outside of the agreed bases, taking control over key installations, such as airports, and encircling Ukrainian units.
Russia's actions have created space for the pro-Russian local authorities in Crimea to displace the lawful public authorities of Ukraine. Legally, this clearly amounts to a significant act of intervention - indeed, as Russian military units are involved, it is a case of armed intervention.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26481423
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024623531
Your attitude seems to be "I won't trust anything an American reporter says", and instead you've decided to trust Russian ones. Despite Russia being a right wing oligarchical country, with state control of the outlets you're trusting. Fine - you don't trust Americans any more. Then look at what Canadian, British, German or French media are saying about Ukraine. It's not what RT says.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)by the likes of you.
I thought the article made some good points but certainly do not agree with it in its entirety.
Sorry you didn't like it!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)"The likes of me" don't come into it. Do you really think that most of DU is just itching to scream the far-left equivalent of "BENGHAZI!!!!!" on DU all day, but are kept in line because they're afraid someone will say "bullshit" to them?
Bollocks. They don't post it because it's Democrat-hating rubbish. Most people here support the Democratic party. It's time you did.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)hating'. They provide real information, always have, were one of the sources most used, including Parry an excellent and actual reporter, by DEMOCRATS throughout the Bush years, insisting on presenting FACTS to the public to try to expose the lies being told by the Corporate Media that led us into several disastrous and criminal wars.
If you take issue with any of the points made then do so, but when you issue a blanket condemnation of people like Parry, most Democrats are simply going to ignore it.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)'opednews' publishes anything. As an example - highlighted on its masthead right now: "Was Malaysian Flight MH370 Landed Safely in Afghanistan?" DU has higher standards than opednews. Donn Marten is just a blogger who hates Democrats.
Yes, obviously the article is Democrat-hating. That's undeniable. I gave the quotes. That's not 'information', it's childish insults.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)over US Foreign policy, not that there is ever any hyperbole on DU where we have MUCH higher standards. I would prefer that they had just eliminated the hyperbole, but the article linked to some very credible reports asking pertinent questions about our Corporate media coverage, so similar to the pre Iraq propaganda we got from the NYT Judith Miller alliance with the Rendon Group, hired to 'catapult' the propaganda as we all know.
But hyperbole aside, thankfully Parry is not the only one now questioning the propaganda shamefully being pushed by our Corporate Media and anyone who wants facts will not be distracted by anything BUT the facts. I suggest you go back, click the links, and see Parry's excellent piece still doing what he has always done as the great investigative reporter he has always been.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)It's the hatred for Democrats in the OP that is the problem.
Actually, Parry is not being an 'investigative reporter' on Ukraine. He's just sitting at home, reading articles on the internet, and giving his opinion, just like you and me. But I'll agree that he doesn't show childish hatred of Democrats, unlike the OP.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)landed there over the course of the past several years.
I guess I was right, you were slamming one of this country's most respected journalists.
'His opinion' is NOT like 'yours and mine', not by a long shot. His opinion is informed by a long history of investigative reporting going all the way back to Iran Contra through Iraq reporting on FACTS, sorting through the propagands, as he is doing here, pointing out the NYT complicity with propaganda without even doing a cursory investigation to try to determine facts.
But thanks for clearing up any confusion regarding who you were slamming.
I'll take Parry's opinion over anyone in the Corporate media any day. He has PROVEN himself over the years to have been correct due to his professionalism at making sure that when he reports 'facts' they actually ARE facts.s
For our State Dept to be running with every fake story out of Kiev, such as the latest Duck Dynasty characters supposedly proof that they are 'Russian soldiers' is nothing more than embarrassing. The NYT should be ashamed of itself. Especially after being caught pushing the propaganda that led us into that disaster in Iraq.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)about him. I'm slamming Purveyor, who is gleefully spreading hatred of the Democratic party, Donn Marten, and now you - since you're defending the hatred.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Real Information!
September 9, 2011
Chemtrails: Do you Have Heavy Metals Poisoning?
http://www.opednews.com/Quicklink/Chemtrails-Do-you-Have-He-in-General_News-110909-278.html
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)soldiers, or are they ACTUALLY Duck Dynasty characters now in Ukraine? That is the burning question.
I mean the NYT? Again with the 'grainy evidence' they have become infamous for?
Duck Dynasty goes to Ukraine! That beats chemtrails any day. It was hilarious! And from the 'Grey Lady' herself!
Who would have expected to see THEM in Ukraine?
Well the NYT apparently! Lol!
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I swear I've posted these videos before-
Russian Colonel Instructs Ukrainian Policemen in Horlivka, Eatern Ukraine
VICE