What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

[CatWoman]

[hlthe2b]

1. Does this include hospitals? Damn, that could be truly deadly, especially in the ER

Honestly, I wish I had the answer to all this gun insanity.....

[sakabatou]

65. If it does

There may be scenes from Sleeping Dogs coming real.

[raccoon]

67. Well, at least the necessary medical people will be right there. :sarcasm: nt

[NightWatcher]

2. this will cut down on all those bad guys with guns in church

I give it a week before the "guns in bars" part of that law starts biting people in the ass. By 'biting people..." I mean shootings and death.

[immoderate]

7. It becomes a good reason to not do business in a bar.

Will they notice?

--imm

[jtuck004]

13. "It becomes a good reason to not do business" in the state. n/t

[RebelOne]

17. I live here in Georgia and seldom go into bars.

Now this is a good reason to never go into bars.

[geckosfeet]

19. I live in MA and concealed carry is allowed in bars and restaurants. I simply can't

recall hearing of a shooting in either. Then again I am almost 59 and my memory is not what it used to be.

One thing that may be a factor is demographics and regional attitudes and gun cultures. I would be more wary in GA than MA.

[doc03]

52. I never heard of concealed carry until about 5 or 6 years ago. That is something the

the NRA thought up to energize gun and ammo sales. Maybe we should issue them penis pumps instead.

[geckosfeet]

57. A well thought out and cogent solution. Your mama would be proud.

[AtheistCrusader]

71. Six years ago, 39 states would issue a permit to ANYONE who didn't have a criminal record

and in some cases, met some training requirement.

An additional 9 states would issue under some circumstances.
Only two states in the union were 'no-issue'.


So uh... yeah.

[AlbertCat]

25. Now this is a good reason to never go into bars.

Or churches

or airports

or schools

or parks

or work



Best just stay home with the door locked and the drapes drawn...

I assume that's what they want unless you're a "gun enthusiast".

[SwankyXomb]

43. Or Georgia

[dixiegrrrrl]

12. There's a good research idea...

" We took a large group of people, armed them, put them in various denomination churches,
and took another large group, equally armed, and put them in various bars.
Then we waited to see the outcome"

Wonder if I could get that study funded?

[AlbertCat]

27. Couldn't do a double blind study

because we couldn't find a place without guns

[dixiegrrrrl]

50. Cemetaries?

[deathrind]

3. The same problems...

Society saw back in the 1800's that led to some towns passing firearm banning ordinances inside the town. The regression of our society by a minority of the populace over the last few years is nothing short of astonishing. At some point the majority is going to have to wake up and smack down this silliness once and for all.

[Arugula Latte]

4. The gun nuts are doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on their insanity.

[LordGlenconner]

6. Pretty soon the best bet will be to stay in your home at all times

Hell, maybe that's what they want.

I've given up trying to figure out their lunacy.

[Skittles]

10. they're cowards who cannot go anywhere without a weapon

disgusting

[AAO]

32. It's a symbol of feeling powerless in some way.

[Helen Borg]

16. There are some people who like the excitement...

Those are the people who love "Stand Your Ground". I'm outta there if there is even a remote hint of incoming violence... Call me coward.

[AlbertCat]

28. like the excitement...

Personally I think they are so bored with their puny little lives that they need to pretend every moment is some action flick of which they are the star.

[trof]

24. Um...we're already there.

That's what I think.

[Crunchy Frog]

62. Quickest way to foment a police state.

Keep everybody scared and keep the police on a hairtrigger.

Much of the funding is coming from the Koch brothers.

[Xolodno]

5. The wild west goes east....

Its probably going to take a lot of accidental firings, increased crime, etc. before people wake up.

[Crunchy Frog]

63. No it won't. They'll just get used to it as the new normal

and the "price they have to pay for freedumb".

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Well I am glad to add Georgia to the list of states

NOT to visit.

And it has none to do with the good people of Georgia, just the dumb fucks who pass these laws. (They are a minority)

[calimary]

18. Um… it has EVERYTHING to do with the good people of Georgia.

Enough of them vote for this shit. Enough of them vote for schmucks who rush to push forward this shit. Enough of them vote to send schmucks who want this shit into positions of power, locally, statewide, AND to Washington.

And, sadly, enough of those who COULD vote and comfortably outnumber the aforementioned - to keep those same schmucks OUT OF POWER - turn apathetic and stay home on Election Day.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. But I will not be accused of southern hate you see

suffice it to say, that is a state I am not going to visit anytime soon. The list is getting long and it includes most of the old Confederacy.

[Leith]

22. Georgia Is Above Florida on My List

GA is where they voted out Max Cleland and voted in Saxby Chambliss. How Georgians can say that they honor the troops, respect soldiers and war heroes, and the rest of their rhetoric - then turn their backs on the real deal = boggles the brain.


Xolodno posted:

Its probably going to take a lot of accidental firings, increased crime, etc. before people wake up.

Even MORE? I don't think that the country could survive too many more. After Newtown, the question is "what the hell will it TAKE?!"

Sorry. I don't mean to single you out, but it will take a LOT to get those with power to wake the eff up.

[AlbertCat]

30. Georgia Is Above Florida on My List

And on the map...badda bing!

[AtheistCrusader]

23. Well, stay out of Washington State too.

Because you know, that's the law here.

[former9thward]

34. There are 43 states with open carry.

All with concealed carry. I guess your travel itinerary is somewhat limited.

[Skittles]

9. and yet on another thread

DUers find my saying GUN HUMPERS HAVE WON distasteful ----------- FUCK THEM ALL

[spanone]

11. lemme say this..FUCK THE GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA

he will have blood on his hands.

[malaise]

31. But but but

his base is happy.

[lillypaddle]

14. Stupid fucks

So glad to get out of that red state. Oh wait ... I moved to Kentucky. Never mind.

[AAO]

35. You had a chance to move from Georgia, and you picked Kentucky?

You probably have a very good reason, but heck!

[lillypaddle]

66. Yeah, I know it sounds crazy

but this is where my kid, his wife and my granddaughter live.

[AAO]

73. Well, that's not too crazy.

[CTyankee]

15. thank god I live in a blue state. We ain't perfect but we're trying...

[AtheistCrusader]

33. I think you might be surprised how many states in which this is the law.

WA is a blue state. There's nothing in that new law that isn't the case here.

[AAO]

37. I used to live in a blue state until some morons voted in Snot Walker.

[CTyankee]

46. We have a pretty staunch CT Yankee culture here...hard to dislodge. our Republicans tend to

be pretty moderate and our Dems pretty liberal. But we DID have a pretty good bunch of liberal Republicans...who woulda thunk it? Lowell Weicker?

[Ilsa]

20. There were protests over this, including a

Minister saying that the law gives a false sense of security, that being in public in Georgia is now more dangerous than ever.

Only 5% have the permits.

I heard that Carter voted for this law. True?

[glowing]

21. Weapons in airports... Do these idiots forget 9-11 so well?

When they pass these laws, it's not just old, Middle Aged white dudes trying remain relevant that will be able to carry these weapons around.

For the "family values" party, they sure don't have many values I find appealing for my family. Do they even understand how far off the reservation they are living? It's rather rhetorical of a question; they have insulated themselves in a bubble and really can't see how crazy and nutty they've become.

[AtheistCrusader]

26. It helps to know the issue.

it allows carry only in the unsecured areas of the airport. For instance, if I am carrying, and I drop someone off at the departures curb, without this law, I'd be breaking the law if I have a gun on my person.

This brings Georgia's laws into perfect parity with the laws of Washington state.


(Also, 9/11 involved box cutters, not firearms, in case you were wondering.)

[glowing]

36. Uh-- Ok...you might just be on the wrong msg board.

Most people I know don't like these nutso's having weapons.. They tend to shoot u over popcorn and text msgs in movie theaters... There's just no reason to running around with weapons unless u are up to no good. The one person I know of that has a concealed weapons permit, does so because his job involves illegal activities... And this is thru hearsay... Never have seen it. So, if u aren't a drug dealer, WTF do u need a weapon at church or an airport or a school for? U just don't!

[AtheistCrusader]

41. This might surprise you but the difference between gun-owning republicans and gun owning democrats

is about 20%. (Households with firearms.)

I have had occasion to be out and about, carrying a firearm, and get a call from someone to come pick them up at the airport. Without that law here in Washington, my options would be;

1. Return home, lock up gun, proceed to airport.
2. Park outside the airport and make the person walk to me.
3. Risk getting caught committing a felony.
4. Refuse to pick the person up.


It's stupid. There is no reason to prohibit the carry of a firearm anywhere on the property of an airport OUTSIDE the secured areas of the airport, that doesn't apply to every square inch of the planet.

For those of us with carry permits, we may have occasion to pass through the various areas you cited. I'm an atheist, so I don't go to church, but if I did, I might wish to carry to and from the church. Without this law, I would then have to leave the gun in my car. Ask the nation's current Drug Czar how that works out, leaving guns in cars. (Hint: some scumbag has former Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske's gun.)

This might catch you by surprise, but most drug dealers don't carry guns, because getting caught is an automatic sentence multiplier with mandatory minimums, usually in the decadal range.

Having, carrying firearms does not disqualify me or others, as Progressives, Democrats, etc.

[doc03]

53. Why are you afraid to leave your house without a gun? n/t

[AtheistCrusader]

55. Did I say I was afraid to leave my house without a gun?

If I didn't (and we both know damn well I didn't), if you have a honest question, rather than a false dichotomy, I'll be happy to give you an honest answer.

[doc03]

56. Well it sounds like it, I certainly don't think I need a gun

if I leave my yard. If I did I would move someplace safer.

[Skittles]

59. they will NEVER admit it

*NEVER*

[AtheistCrusader]

70. Who the fuck is 'they'?

On some philosophical level I suppose you could tie it to 'fear', the same way I 'fear' fire, and thus have smoke alarms and fire extinguishers in my home.

But do I live in a constant state of fear of fire? No, not really. I have taken reasonable precautions.
So too for personal security.

[AtheistCrusader]

69. When I first got the permit, I lived in a pretty bad area.

I have since moved. There was a woman stabbed and raped a few blocks from my home a month ago, but that was an aberration. Mostly due to the employer, having only one person on at close, requiring employees to park in the alley behind the store. Stupid with a side helping of reckless endangerment for the employees.

Most of the time I do not carry at all. Certainly not to work as my employer does not allow weapons, of any sort for any reason, and I accept that. And I do not leave firearms in my car unattended.

About the only time I carry anymore is when I am out and about in the woods, where there are in fact, predators and not even any cell coverage. I don't think that unreasonable. Though, I could probably get by with just some bear spray, to be honest.

[lpbk2713]

29. Atlanta's airport is the largest hub in the Southeast.

Tens of thousands of people go through there daily.

Sure, that's gonna work out dandy.

[AtheistCrusader]

49. Seatac is the 2nd busiest on the West Coast.

Same rules.

[AAO]

38. Don't they still have to abide by federal rules (TSA)?

[AtheistCrusader]

42. Those rules prohibt carry in the secured areas of the airport.

And yes, those rules are in full force. Even after the passage of this law.

[CatWoman]

47. Let me guess

[AtheistCrusader]

48. No more or less than any other inanimate object that I own/use.

Is pointing out the accurate effect of this law a problem for you somehow?

Quelle horreur that someone might point out this doesn't mean you can carry everywhere in any manner at all times.

[ErikJ]

39. Didnt Jesus say "Live by the sword, die by the sword"?

ironic in the Bible belt.

[SevenSixtyTwo]

44. We've traveled from Florida

to Washington state armed. We've flown to many places and simply checked our firearms with the TSA. I've been armed for over 30 years. Never a problem. Definitely not the mayhem predicted here.

[toby jo]

45. Christ, the rest of the world must think we're just nuts.

That'd be the folks who have murder rates of say, 10 or 12 a year with guns.

[Politicalboi]

51. Come on Georgia

We know you can become the bad example of why guns should stay at home. I wish guns didn't exists, but the cats out of the bag on that.

[Crunchy Frog]

64. That would be some good that could come out of this. n/t

[doc03]

54. Those who look for trouble usually will find it eventually and you better be

damned well prepared to use your gun. Most people aren't.

[Zorra]

58. Red states are laying the groundwork for a bloody RW revolution/coup. nt

[Art_from_Ark]

60. Didn't the devil go down to Georgia to play fiddle or something?

It sure looks like he's fiddling with the state.

[lovemydog]

61. To raise money, GA should release all prisoners,

arm them, and televise it!

[raccoon]

68. Trouble is, Atlanta airport is a hub. If you live in the general area, you frequently have to change

planes at Atlanta airport to get to wherever you're coming or going.


So, which part of the airport are the guns allowed in?

[AtheistCrusader]

72. The unsecured area, such as pickup/drop off.