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Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 11:57 PM Apr 2014

Exactly as I Suspected: F.B.I. used Anonymous to Conduct Cyberattacks Abroad

Last edited Wed Apr 30, 2014, 06:52 PM - Edit history (2)

redacted due to copyright notification. --LG

Pretty much exactly what I was saying at the time, or would have said if I thought it appropriate.

F.B.I. Informant Is Tied to Cyberattacks Abroad

By Mark Mazetti April 23, 2014 (New York Times)

WASHINGTON — An informant working for the F.B.I. coordinated a 2012 campaign of hundreds of cyberattacks on foreign websites, including some operated by the governments of Iran, Syria, Brazil and Pakistan, according to documents and interviews with people involved in the attacks. Exploiting a vulnerability in a popular web hosting software, the informant directed at least one hacker to extract vast amounts of data — from bank records to login information — from the government servers of a number of countries and upload it to a server monitored by the F.B.I., according to court statements [that] suggest that the government may have used hackers to gather intelligence overseas even as investigators were trying to dismantle hacking groups like Anonymous and send computer activists away for lengthy prison terms. The attacks were coordinated by Hector Xavier Monsegur, who used the Internet alias Sabu and became a prominent hacker within Anonymous for a string of attacks on high-profile targets ... By early 2012, Mr. Monsegur of New York had been arrested by the F.B.I. and had already spent months working to help the bureau identify other members of Anonymous, according to previously disclosed court papers.

One of them was Jeremy Hammond, then 27, who, like Mr. Monsegur, had joined a splinter hacking group from Anonymous called Antisec. The two men had worked together in December 2011 to sabotage the computer servers of Stratfor Global Intelligence, a private intelligence firm based in Austin, Tex. Shortly after the Stratfor incident, Mr. Monsegur, 30, began supplying Mr. Hammond with lists of foreign websites that might be vulnerable to sabotage, according to Mr. Hammond, in an interview, and chat logs between the two men. The New York Times petitioned the court last year to have those documents unredacted, and they were submitted to the court last week with some of the redactions removed. “After Stratfor, it was pretty much out of control in terms of targets we had access to,” Mr. Hammond said during an interview this month at a federal prison in Kentucky, where he is serving a 10-year sentence after pleading guilty to the Stratfor operation ... He has not been charged with any crimes in connection with the hacks against foreign countries.

The hacking campaign appears to offer further evidence that the American government has exploited major flaws in Internet security — so-called zero-day vulnerabilities like the recent Heartbleed bug — for intelligence purposes. Recently, the Obama administration decided it would be more forthcoming in revealing the flaws to industry, rather than stockpiling them until the day they are useful for surveillance or cyberattacks. But it carved a broad exception for national security and law enforcement operations.

Over several weeks in early 2012, according to the chat logs, Mr. Monsegur gave Mr. Hammond new foreign sites to penetrate. During a Jan. 23 conversation, Mr. Monsegur told Mr. Hammond he was in search of “new juicy targets,” the chat logs show. The sentencing statement also said that Mr. Monsegur directed other hackers to give him extensive amounts of data from Syrian government websites, including banks and ministries of the government of President Bashar al-Assad. “The F.B.I. took advantage of hackers who wanted to help support the Syrian people against the Assad regime, who instead unwittingly provided the U.S. government access to Syrian systems,” the statement said.



Jeremy Hammond, aka Anarchaos -- online political activist who was convicted in hacking cases.

One expert said that the court documents in the Hammond case were striking because they offered the most evidence to date that the F.B.I. might have been using hackers to feed information to other American intelligence agencies. “It’s not only hypocritical but troubling if indeed the F.B.I. is loaning its sting operations out to other three-letter agencies,” said Gabriella Coleman, a professor at McGill University and author of a forthcoming book about Anonymous.

He added that Mr. Monsegur never carried out the hacks himself, but repeatedly asked Mr. Hammond for specific details about the Plesk vulnerability. “Sabu wasn’t getting his hands dirty,” he said. Federal investigators arrested Mr. Monsegur in mid-2011, and his cooperation with the F.B.I. against members of Anonymous appears to have begun soon after. In a closed hearing in August 2011, a federal prosecutor told a judge that Mr. Monsegur had been “cooperating with the government proactively” and had “literally worked around the clock with federal agents” to provide information about other hackers, whom he described as “targets of national and international interests.”

Mr. Monsegur’s sentencing hearing has been repeatedly delayed, leading to speculation that he is still working as a government informant. His current location is unknown.

During a conversation on Feb. 15, 2012, Mr. Hammond said he hoped all the stolen information would be put “to good use.”

“Trust me,” Mr. Monsegur said, according to the chat logs. “Everything I do serves a purpose.”

Now, sitting in prison, Mr. Hammond wonders if F.B.I. agents might also have been on the other end of the communications.

[font color="green"]that feeling when everything you assumed turns out to be true.[/font]

[font size="3"]... or perhaps ...[/font]
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Exactly as I Suspected: F.B.I. used Anonymous to Conduct Cyberattacks Abroad (Original Post) Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 OP
Stratfor Global Intelligence, a false flag wrapped in a cutout wrapped in a ringer. ucrdem Apr 2014 #1
When is a grey hat not a grey hat but a white hat pretending to be a black hat? Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #6
Now for other shoe to drop: What Role Did US Have in Working Thru Anonymous to promote Arab Spring? Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #2
The experience in san francisco was pretty classic. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #3
Wow... joshcryer Apr 2014 #4
I am simply asking whether Anonymous was being used all along. Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #5
More about Occupy and making fun of the homeless. joshcryer Apr 2014 #7
Everything I ever hear about Sabu starting with original message of Lulzsec make me like him less Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #8
Mic check... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #9
What was? Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #10
I'm mocking the movement that was told they couldn't use a megaphone so Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #11
Nonsense. Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #13
*crickets* Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #14
I have no idea what your applause line comment is about. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #15
"there is a clear way leaders speak..." Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #16
I am arguing style. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #17
Instead of ignoring that. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #18
Protestors "chose: an extremely inefficient means of communication Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #19
where every sentence needed to be repeated by the crowd Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #20
so a single idea would take forever to express itself Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #21
It was and is silly. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #22
kinda like my last 5 posts Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #23
Well you're the only person on DU who seems to even care about the issue Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #24
Its a good post Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #25
lol... and remove the snarky "told you so??" well... maybe. :P people are so sensitive. Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #28
They weren't told, they were RAIDED by that friendly, non-corrupt, lover of the homeless Bloomberg sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #29
Thanks, sabrina 1, for the eloquent explanation. Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #30
You're more than welcome, Lg! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #34
Yes! And the message of the "1%" that still resonates today. Look at KoKo Apr 2014 #31
Thank you Koko, I know you get it. We have no moral authority, OWS exposed that, perhaps sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #32
Your opinion that the movement "turned into a joke" is just that - your opinion. Maedhros Apr 2014 #27
Dissenting, or Seeking Shelter? Homeless Stake a Claim at Protests Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #26
On A Related Note: Anonymous' Airchat Aims to Allow Communication Without Needing Phone or Internet Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #12
Anonymous is many things, part of which may be government agencies. I believe it is deliberately sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #33
"Beige hat"? :P Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #37
Yeh, it is almost impossible to keep any genuinely pro-democracy movement free from Zorra Apr 2014 #35
Yes, please do! That's why I created it. ;) Leopolds Ghost Apr 2014 #36

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
1. Stratfor Global Intelligence, a false flag wrapped in a cutout wrapped in a ringer.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 12:03 AM
Apr 2014

How many spooks can dance on the head of a pin?

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
2. Now for other shoe to drop: What Role Did US Have in Working Thru Anonymous to promote Arab Spring?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 12:09 AM
Apr 2014
Was Occupy an unintended consequence, an example of "blowback" stemming from a parallel campaign by people like Kevin Zeese to commemorate the ten-year anniversary of the Afghan War, combined with online anti-authoritarian attempts to sustain the Spanish general assembly movement?

Was the Arab Spring not intended to "catch on" amongst domestic anons?

Was this video (which used to be my sig pic in 2010 and is nevertheless awesome), one of the first "Occupy style" videos, funded by the US gov't?



Because we all know activists don't have a pot to pee in and can't afford to spend that much time in Adobe Final Cut Pro if someone ain't being paid, yo. You have to admit the CIA gets all the best media resources.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
3. The experience in san francisco was pretty classic.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 12:39 AM
Apr 2014

Get together the most liberal motivated activists, flood them with homeless and drug addicts.

Get them all to sit around doing "mike checks", the result is a comedy-farce for the rest of the people.

Zero change.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
5. I am simply asking whether Anonymous was being used all along.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:10 AM
Apr 2014

Certain things are not allowed to exist unless they are useful to the authorities.

That's why the Occupy encampment in DC lasted longer, I think; it was deliberately held off on going after them to keep the Admin's hands clean on crackdowns elsewhere, politically speaking.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
7. More about Occupy and making fun of the homeless.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:15 AM
Apr 2014

I have no doubt the article is correct and that anonymous was used in that way. Whenever the Feds get an informant they use that informant to get a lot of information and to pull more people into the groups.

Mind you, Sabu did what he had to do to get a lesser sentence. I don't blame him for that but that's the cowardly way. The Javabit owner shut down because the NSA wanted to install monitoring stuff on their servers. Rather than do it he contacted his lawyers, and just shut it down, without an explanation.

edit: btw it's funny how an informant can entrap people legally but a cop can't.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
8. Everything I ever hear about Sabu starting with original message of Lulzsec make me like him less
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:31 AM
Apr 2014


And that was on the basis of extremely limited knowledge at the time...

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
9. Mic check...
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 11:02 AM
Apr 2014

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cause someone said we can't use a megaphone...

It was a comedy or a farce.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
10. What was?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 12:55 PM
Apr 2014

Are we comparing this to the rightward shift of the Democratic party or what are we using for comparison?

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
11. I'm mocking the movement that was told they couldn't use a megaphone so
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 12:58 PM
Apr 2014

Instead of ignoring the police they adopted the bizarre mic check form of speaking.

It among other issues, turned a movement into a joke.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
13. Nonsense.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:12 PM
Apr 2014

Mic Check! who here thinks the movement was turned into a joke, or that mic checks turned the movement into a joke?

You'd have a hard time parroting applause lines at most political rallies, my friend.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
15. I have no idea what your applause line comment is about.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:21 PM
Apr 2014

There is a clear way leaders speak, and there is mic check.

If you want to not convey ideas and get things done, then "mic check" is the way to go.

Name one accomplishment of occupy, besides spectacle, it was all theatre and no substantial change.

The state we are in confirms that.

If this were mic check this one post, would actually be 6 posts..

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
16. "there is a clear way leaders speak..."
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:26 PM
Apr 2014

Not sure what you mean either. You're arguing style not substance.

Nothing about our present media environment is usual for a functioning democracy. It's usual for a 2nd-world "democracy" like Egypt, though.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
23. kinda like my last 5 posts
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 01:34 PM
Apr 2014

That a movement chose the most absurd unnecessary means of communication speaks volumes.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
24. Well you're the only person on DU who seems to even care about the issue
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:12 PM
Apr 2014

What does that say about the issue?

Either: they were effective in making you care, or: it is a non-issue.

Or perhaps we are the only two people willing to discuss it which is why I don't bother posting much anymore.

If it's not on MSNBC, nobody replies.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
25. Its a good post
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 02:22 PM
Apr 2014

I would update it, remove "Exactly as I Suspected: " from the titie Im guessing you'll get more engagement.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
28. lol... and remove the snarky "told you so??" well... maybe. :P people are so sensitive.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 05:44 PM
Apr 2014

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But it *is* exactly what I assumed...

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. They weren't told, they were RAIDED by that friendly, non-corrupt, lover of the homeless Bloomberg
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 06:07 PM
Apr 2014

army known as the NYPD. Brutally assaulted, their equipment stolen, etc etc But if you weren't there you might think that instead of finding a way around the brutal assaults, they were just trying to be funny.

Many Democratic politicians and other mostly, Left leaning journalists etc were there because they supported the message.

I hardly think Wall St was behind a movement that finally brought attention to one of the most important issues NOT being talked about until then.

Were they infiltrated? Is the sky blue? They expected that and actually caught a few of the more stupid infiltrators but living in a non-Democratic nation to think any movement criticizing the system wouldn't be infiltrated would be foolish.

As for what did they accomplish, exactly what they intended, and way more than they had hoped for.

They certainly ARE a threat, the People are the enemy of those who are corrupting our system of government and that is exactly how they were treated.

They accomplished drawing attention to who is behind, pulling the strings of our government.

They never intended to be around longer than, at the most, one week. But the message resonated with so many people around the country that rather than just one city, they spread across the country and the world.

The crackdown was brutal, many seriously injured, some nearly killed. But our leaders refused to criticize that crackdown on unarmed, peaceful protesters which embarrassed them across the globe, being OWS had its own media making sure the world got to see every near killing by US Robo Cops of its own peaceful protesters.

And the reaction from the UN was to publicly ask the US Government to intervene to protect them, a request that was received with silence.

Yet that same Government expresses phony outrage when other governments try to defend their own police forces from actual ARMED protesters, beating up cops etc.

What OWS accomplished was to expose the incredible hypocrisy of the US, the willingness to brutally beat up and falsely arrest its own citizens exercising their supposed rights.

And as a result the world simply laughs when that same government points its hypocritical fingers eslewhere.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
31. Yes! And the message of the "1%" that still resonates today. Look at
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 08:08 PM
Apr 2014

the Articles and Discussion about the "1%" that "Occupy" with their movement managed to put out there into the "memes" we live with put out by the 99%.

They Coined that Phrase and it GREW a LIFE OF ITS OWN! And the Retaliation exposed the Underside of What Protestors in America TODAY are up Against.

As you say:

"What OWS accomplished was to expose the incredible hypocrisy of the US, the willingness to brutally beat up and falsely arrest its own citizens exercising their supposed rights.

And as a result the world simply laughs when that same government points its hypocritical fingers eslewhere."


And what you said is the other benefit of "Occupy Wall Street." Exposing the Police Brutality and lack of "Freedom of Speech" that we Citizens THOUGHT we had a right to express. That made "American Freedoms" a laughing stock for the rest of the world to observe.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
32. Thank you Koko, I know you get it. We have no moral authority, OWS exposed that, perhaps
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 11:32 PM
Apr 2014

unintentionally, or maybe not. But every time the US points fingers elsewhere, all anyone has to do is to republish the thousands of videos that OWS had the intelligence to produce which recorded the brutality of the 'authorities' against peaceful protesters, unarmed, exercising what they thought was their right to freely assemble to address grievances their government has failed to address.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
27. Your opinion that the movement "turned into a joke" is just that - your opinion.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:24 PM
Apr 2014

Just because you say it with conviction does not mean it's true.

I am less inclined now, having seen how your logic (or lack of it) works, to pay attention to what you post.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
33. Anonymous is many things, part of which may be government agencies. I believe it is deliberately
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 11:34 PM
Apr 2014

confusing, making it more difficult to define them. There are the good guys and the bad guys, perhaps both using the same title.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
35. Yeh, it is almost impossible to keep any genuinely pro-democracy movement free from
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 02:07 AM
Apr 2014

infiltration by agents provocateurs these days.

Democracy is the enemy of the status quo, and the status quo has the bucks to pay the best talent to do whatever is necessary to prevent democracy.

LG, would it be ok with you if I borrowed your Agent Mike smiley?

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
36. Yes, please do! That's why I created it. ;)
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 12:41 PM
Apr 2014


It's public image-hosted.

And just because you're so special: ^3^/)


I have an animated one of this, it seems to have been mysteriously replaced by the image-host with a picture of a buxom babe.



OK, there you go.
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