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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:23 AM Apr 2014

European Firms Seek to Minimize Russia Sanctions

BERLIN — With the showdown over Ukraine escalating and President Obama warning Moscow of a tough new round of sanctions, Russia and its allies in the European private sector are conducting a separate campaign to ensure that they can maintain their deep and longstanding economic ties even if the Kremlin orders further military action.

European banks and businesses are far more exposed to the Russian economy than are their American counterparts. Trade between the European Union and Russia amounted to almost $370 billion in 2012, while United States trade with Russia was about $26 billion that year.

As a result, they have lobbied energetically to head off or at least dilute any sanctions, making it hard for American and European political leaders to come up with a package of measures with enough bite to influence Moscow’s behavior in Ukraine.

Since Russia’s annexation of Crimea, energy companies, exporters, big users of Russian natural gas and investors with stakes in Russia have counseled caution. “Neither in energy terms, nor politically, should we turn away from Russia,” said Rainer Seele, the chairman of Wintershall, a subsidiary of the large German-based chemical company BASF that is deeply entwined in Russia’s oil and natural gas trade.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/26/world/europe/european-firms-seek-to-minimize-russia-sanctions.html?hpw&rref=world&_r=0

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European Firms Seek to Minimize Russia Sanctions (Original Post) dipsydoodle Apr 2014 OP
It's always the bankers. joshcryer Apr 2014 #1
More so manufacturers and industry in this case dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #2
Eh, I see bankers. joshcryer Apr 2014 #3
As an example of what can go on over here dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #4
I read Reddit too. joshcryer Apr 2014 #5
I'm not sure what Reddit is. dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #7
My bad, Reddit is a big link posting site. joshcryer Apr 2014 #8
Germany got lucky with the Marshall Plan jakeXT Apr 2014 #6
Buyers remorse...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #9

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. More so manufacturers and industry in this case
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:38 AM
Apr 2014

doubtless including the German company fabricating the pipes for Sud Stream.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
3. Eh, I see bankers.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:39 AM
Apr 2014

If you think it is more than that, fair enough. I just see bankers pissed off that they are afraid they can't launder oligarch money anymore.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. As an example of what can go on over here
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:56 AM
Apr 2014

this from 2 years :

Latvians want compensation from EU for sanctions against dictatorship. https://charter97.org/en/news/2012/3/20/49540/

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. I'm not sure what Reddit is.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:37 AM
Apr 2014


I found that yesterday purely by accident while searching to find Lativia's views on any current proposed sanctions.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
8. My bad, Reddit is a big link posting site.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:07 PM
Apr 2014

There's a particular "subreddit" (sublevel link posting area) that is focused on this: http://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/

I saw that Latvian thing from some of the pro-Russia posters there.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
9. Buyers remorse...nt
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 10:13 AM
Apr 2014

Hey EU here are 45 million mostly poor people, who seemingly have a habit of corruption and non bill paying..

Good luck..

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