For our next President, I'm rooting for . . . (POLL)

[snot]

57 votes, 5 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Elizabeth Warren
	23 (40%)
	Hillary Clinton
	15 (26%)
	Bernie Sanders
	15 (26%)
	Other (please specify)
	4 (7%)
	5 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[mahina]

1. Martin O'Malley, because I believe Elizabeth when she says she's not running.

Not planning to run.

I like Martin O'Malley a lot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O'Malley

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I don't think his gender is a problem. I don't care that he's white. I think he has the potential to be a great President.

AND we need to focus on 2014.

[JNelson6563]

2. I second your motion.

[mahina]

5. Thanks!

[CTyankee]

9. I think we need a woman president. It's about time fer gawd's sake.

I love O'Malley and I also love my senator Chris Murphy, but it is time for a woman in the Democratic Party to lead us. I think Hillary can win and I hear the RW feverishly trying to push our buttons by saying that HIllary is too much a neo-con for us Dems. The pukes are scared to death...

Having said that, I adore E. Warren and would be thrilled if she can pull it off...

[mahina]

16. I've heard that point and disagree.

Gender is not a criteria for me. If Elizabeth would run, I would support her. If she won't, I'm looking for the best candidate in our species, whatever lies between their legs.

We disagree.

And we need to focus on 2014.

[bvar22]

19. I wouldn't even limit it to our species.

If some Extra-Terresteral came and promised to return us to Traditional Democratic Party Policies
of FDR and LBJ, and condemned that last 20 years of de-regulation, Privatization, and ""Free Markets" as Bullshit Crap for the Rich,
I could vote for that being.

[MoonchildCA]

36. I cannot wait for our first woman president.

But that's just not at the top of my criteria list either, especially when we get only one to choose from. What we need is a nice, strong field of women candidates in the running.

[CTyankee]

47. Well, there was a NY Times article about that very phenomenon about a week ago...

we now have "binders full of women" indeed!

I think our tendency in the U.S. is to see males as the presidential norm. We are so far behind so many countries. I actually think it is embarrassing.

[mahina]

59. This thread would be a great place to introduce them!

[CTyankee]

70. Here is the article...it's a good one!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/us/politics/with-eyes-on-possible-clinton-run-questions-on-room-for-other-women.html?ref=politics&_r=0

[mahina]

73. mahalo, I'll put it in my queue.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

58. Most of "us Dems" figured out Hillary was a hawk...

without any help from the right-wing.

[CTyankee]

75. I just find it interesting that they are using it against us...hmm...

maybe they are thinking it is an effective strategy...ya think?

[WorseBeforeBetter]

89. I don't -- it's what they do.

I fully expect them to seize on everything from the Rose Law Firm to Benghazi. Some of these issues will resonate with the right (e.g., Travelgate), others the left (e.g., Iraq war vote), and others not at all. I fall in the latter camp, having *major* Clinton fatigue.

[CTyankee]

91. Here's my two cents...

if the groundswell for Warren gets bigger and bigger, with more Dem hearvyweights giving support to using the issue of income inequality in 2016, Hillary will have to confront it and choose sides. She will see that this isn't a slide into the Oval Office or even to the nomination of her party. She will then have to take a stand one way or the other. I don't see how she can avoid it and run for President...

[WorseBeforeBetter]

92. The problem with that is even if she choses...

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the right (er, left) side, will she be believed? I just don't see her as passionate about this issue. Quite frankly, I'd like to see her "retire," work on her global foundation with Chelsea, and enjoy being a grandmother. I'd say the same about Biden -- retire, kick back and enjoy Rehoboth with the grandkids. The party needs fresh blood/ideas.

[CTyankee]

93. I agree about fresh blood/ideas.

This actually supports my point: Hillary will see some handwriting on the wall and one choice for her is to reassess her approach to be more E. Warren than straight up Wall St., particularly in the primaries. So far, that hasn't appeared to happen. But time will tell. And I think she is leaving the option of foundation/grandparenting as her future path might be just what she is doing. Nothing stays the same and I think she knows that.

The other phenomenon is the rise of women in politics. There is, to a large extent, your fresh blood/new ideas. Do not discount the importance of having a woman for president. It needs to happen. Whether it is Hillary or Warren or someone else remains to be seen.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

96. She should have seen the handwriting on the wall long ago...

not just when it's politically expedient. Warren seems genuine on this issue; Clinton does not. Take a stand, Democrats! Put on those comfortable shoes!

I'm a woman and want the best person for the job, regardless of gender, race, orientation, etc. I don't want to settle for Hillary because "it's time," but it may not be an option. We'll see. In the meantime, November 2014:

Kay Hagan (D-NC)

(Hagan is no prize either, but between Tillis and Dr. Teabagger, she'll get my vote.)

[CTyankee]

97. Obviously all aspects of each candidate must be assessed carefully.

I firmly reject the notion of "her turn." As I said she needs to have a lot more on her behalf than that. As for the "best person for the job", the problem is that women often bring different skills/background and life experiences that are often discounted or even not counted at all in the "best person" scenario. Since we have never had a woman president, we have to think anew about our "standards." What are we discounting in women too quickly, and overvaluing far too much in male candidates? I think there is an unspoken, hidden bias involved....otherwise, why haven't we had a woman president by now, when so many nations around the world have or have had women leaders already?

[Yo_Mama]

20. Thanks, just looked him up

He looks like a very good Dem candidate with gubernatorial experience. I think one needs to run.

[broiles]

32. Ditto.

[MoonchildCA]

35. I'm pretty interested in him as well.

I'd like to see him get a little more national attention and learn a bit more about him, but I like what I've seen and read so far.

I hate the forgone conclusion that Hillary will be our next candidate. I love Elizabeth, but I'm not sure she'll run, and frankly, though I think she'd be an excellent president, I'm not sure she'd be a strong candidate. And I think Bernie might run--I hope he does--but I think he's running to pull the conversation in a certain way, I don't think he's running to win. It's about the message.

Of course, I'll go for Hillary if that's who we're stuck with. I'm not a purest when it comes to that. Heck, I'd even vote for Romney, if it were between him, and say a Ted Cruz. Not because I'd want to, but because I believe if we're going to damage this country, we need try and get by with the least possible. For me Clinton's a bit scary. She's too much of a centrist/corporatist, but she's far less scary than any republican out there. And hey, seeing as this country is run by corporations, that's probably what we will be stuck with.

[Vattel]

56. I don't like O'Malley. it would be more of the same with him.

I want change.

[mahina]

60. I'm interested in learning more too,

and would be interested in reading your reservations if there's anything you may be aware of that I'm not.

And I agree with all posters drawing our attention to congress in 2014.

[Vattel]

83. O'Malley's sweeps of Baltimore corners when he was mayor

openly violated the fourth amendment. And he consistently sided with money and against communities. He is a politician through and through. He thinks like one, talks like one, and acts like one. His big innovation was Citistat (compstat for Baltimore) and then Statestat (Compstat for Maryland). You can read about that here: http://www.compstat.umd.edu/what_is_cs.php

He is a million times better than the average Republican, but I wish we could do better.

[FSogol]

94. Agreed. n/t

[mahina]

3. I hope you put Martin O'Malley on your poll options list.

Name recognition has to start somewhere!

[Exposethefrauds]

4. I am rooting for whomever will not be a Toady for the 1%

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of the list one has said they are not running, one is a Democratic Socialist who may or may not run, and one is a corporate toady waiting for their coronation.

I hope the Democratic Socialist runs and wins, America has had nothing but Toady's as POTUS since January 1981 change will not happen by electing more of the same.

[davidpdx]

6. Nobody yet............

[yuiyoshida]

7. I thought Elizabeth Warren said she would not run for

President of the United States...has this changed??

[pipi_k]

34. Hasn't changed

She still insists she's not running.

[demwing]

67. She has said as much on several occassions

So it's completely understandable why many DUer are still unsure about her intentions

[Chan790]

80. I'm voting for her whether she runs or not.

I'm urging as many people to do so as possible.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

102. She has never said she "would not" run, only that she isn't. nt

[TreasonousBastard]

8. Too soon...

more options will pop up out of the woodwork in a year.

Right now Congress is far more important.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

26. +1

[treestar]

28. +2

[ScreamingMeemie]

30. Wendy 2014!

[MohRokTah]

10. 2 maybe runs and 1 no way she'll run. eom

[brooklynite]

11. I don't "root"...I actually work to get my preferred candidates to run

I know that's an unusual development around here but...

[Yo_Mama]

22. I think donations and advocacy action is pretty much presumed on a board like this

When I think "support", I think action in terms of contributions to campaign funds and campaigning support of some form. I would bet that most here do the same.

[brooklynite]

42. But in terms of getting a candidate to run...

...you need to reach out -- personally or as a group -- to your preferred person and try to convince them. I've doe that, both for Hillary and for Brian Schweitzer (in the unlikely event she doesn't run). I haven't seen anyone here indicate that they're making an effort to convince Waren, Sanders et al to run, except posting another "I hope" message hear.

[Yo_Mama]

44. I'd bet you're wrong

Just based on my own actions, of course. But I doubt other people on this board are less committed/less action-oriented than we are. I'd guess that most are MORE so, not less.

[JustAnotherGen]

54. I've reached out to Sherrod

It was a long shot but worth a try!

[brooklynite]

68. Actually I know Sherrod...he won't be running

I asked because of the number of people musing about him here. Not a chance.

[JustAnotherGen]

88. I know

But you don't ask - you don't get.

[Blanks]

12. Howard Dean.

I don't think he's ruled it out - like Elizabeth Warren has.

Repeatedly.

[Va Lefty]

53. +1

[brooklynite]

69. I support Howard Dean...in his support for Hillary Clinton

Another presidential campaign is not an immediate goal for Democrat Howard Dean, who came to Iowa today to rake Republicans as either radicals or cowards who are too afraid to stand up to the extreme right.

“At this point, I’m supporting Hillary Clinton,” Dean, a former Vermont governor and 2004 presidential candidate, told The Des Moines Register in a brief interview in Iowa today.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2013/08/21/in-iowa-howard-dean-says-at-this-point-im-supporting-hillary-clinton/article?nclick_check=1

[tiredtoo]

13. Rather than running these polls concerning 2016

We should all be working on getting progressive candidates elected in 2014.
Pass

[MineralMan]

14. +100

I passed, as well.

[tkmorris]

84. I really don't think posting this poll...

In ANY WAY interfered with the OP's efforts to get Progressive candidates elected in 2014. Nor do I think my responding to it interfered with mine. Did you find the time you spent school-marming about it interfered with yours?

[tiredtoo]

100. No

Hopefully it brought some attention to the real concern we should all have here. We can worry about the Presidential election come December 2014 until then we should all be focused on getting our candidates elected in November. This Hillary fixation just tends to take our minds off the real concern.
Have to go now, doors still awaiting my knock knock.

[MH1]

15. OTHER: A Democratic House and Senate.

Yes, pipe dream, I know, but so is the idea that any of the listed options will get much done with a republican house and senate.

[tridim]

17. Other: 2014 2014 2014 2014 2014 2014 2014

Two Thousand Fucking Fourteen.

Focus. PLEASE!

[GoCubsGo]

52. Thank you. n/t

[Yo_Mama]

18. I haven't decided yet, but I do know who I want to run

Those people include Sanders and Warren.

For me, primaries are not just about picking the winning candidate but about getting competing ideas out in the public discussion so as to forward policy changes.

If Sanders does run, all of my husband's and my campaign donations will go to him in the primaries, because I think he's saying and has been saying things that otherwise are not getting attention, but need attention.

I would also like to see a Dem governor run.

[Agschmid]

21. I'll vote for Hill in this poll... But I like O'Malley.

[lumberjack_jeff]

23. Other: Brian Schweitzer. n/t

[TheFarseer]

39. yes. love Brian Schweitzer

[Samantha]

87. I like him as well but I believe he heavily supports the Keystone Pipe Line

I have seen him on MSNBC discussing it.

I still like him. He has a lot of character.

Sam

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. Kshama Sawant but I'll settle happily for Bernie.

Seeing as Kshama is ineligible.

[Shoulders of Giants]

25. Someone who supports single payer, is against wars that don't protect our country,...

doesn't support any kind of discrimination, is against corporate welfare, doesn't support the drug war, doesn't support the prison state, doesn't support censorship, doesn't support Exxon, doesn't take money (bribes) from corporate lobbyists. I don't know who this person is, but that's the candidate I'm rooting for. I'm guessing I'll be SOL come 2016.

[Ruby the Liberal]

27. O'Malley nt

[bigwillq]

29. Of those, Sanders (nt)

[gulliver]

31. Pass. Too early. nt

[GoCubsGo]

51. Yep.

Can't say who I'll "root for", when nobody is actually running yet.

[darkangel218]

33. Bernie if he runs.

[Cali_Democrat]

40. Agreed. nt

[TheKentuckian]

37. Sherrod Brown should be drafted. Proven ability to win statewide in a large swing state,

strong liberal background.

Of your list, I chose Bernie. I am less sure of Warren than many but am willing to consider supporting her and actually do as a stalking horse.

I support Secretary Clinton "spending time with her family" but not for any office, elected or appointed unless it is an appointment to get her out of the way but prefer she just become a private citizen, I have no use for her other than better than (insert boogie man her).

[adirondacker]

38. Lieberman/Cuomo or LoCo 2016. Because you can never be too pragmatic!

[MisterP]

64. you FOOL! a primary will only allow the GOP to win: it's Harold Ford/Harman we must back!

[McCamy Taylor]

41. Why is there no Latino/Latina on this list? This is a serious question.

[Cali_Democrat]

43. There's no African American on the list either

I'm not sure I understand your point.

[McCamy Taylor]

45. Julian Castro, San Antonio mayor, until Hillary declares he is my candidate.

If she runs, then I am for Clinton/Castro. Make the GOP fight for Texas and Arizona.


http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=julian+castro+democratic+convention+speech&qpvt=julian+castro+democratic+convention+speech&FORM=VDRE#view=detail&mid=58CD2AC65CE10B53BAAB58CD2AC65CE10B53BAAB

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Castro

[joshcryer]

49. It will be Clinton/Castro.

And so called purists well swallow the pill in the hopes that Clinton dies in office. I'm dead serious.

[McCamy Taylor]

61. I think Clinton may be closer to Gore politically than people realize.

Bill admires both of them for their ferocious idealism (he is more the pragmatic type). I have a feeling that the reason the far right hated Gore and hates her is they suspect that once in office she will go full on McGovern. Remember, she and Bill worked for McGovern. And then, she worked on Watergate. I think she has a lot of bitterness about what was done to McGovern and she has been biding her time, playing the system, waiting to get even. Just a hunch. Gore always looked so pragmatic, too---and then look what he did with "Inconvenient Truth" and his post political career? Bill called it when he said that Al was an idealist at heart. And he has always said the same thing about Hillary.

My biggest fear is that the right wing sees her as another Bobby Kennedy---and they hated and feared Bobby Kennedy with a passion.

[joshcryer]

63. This is my thinking too.

She chooses her words very carefully.

I think she will enact revenge.

[hfojvt]

46. Michigan!

WOLVERINES!!!!1!!

[joshcryer]

48. Only one person in the poll is running...

[LWolf]

50. Other:

ANY non-neoliberal, non-corporate-owned, left-of-center politician who values cooperation, public services, and the quality of life of all.

Edited to add:

It's not about the personality. It's about the issues.

For me, it starts and ends with issues.

[Cleita]

55. I'm really thinking that Elizabeth Warren might be our next President.

Not only would she be our first woman President but our first Native American as well. I really hope she gets there.

[mahina]

57. I'd love that and work to help.

Matbe 2020 if she means what she says
I assume she does.

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. I am not even caring about that anymore

Yup, will vote, but I do not expect that to change anything on it's lonesome.

[Union Scribe]

65. As long as in Nov. '16 Mark Schauer has been

governor of Michigan for nearly two years, I'll be happy. Snyder and his ALEC masters have broken this state so badly. If the people here are stupid enough to give him a second term after all that, we're long-term fucked here no matter who the nod goes to in 2016.

[MelungeonWoman]

66. Bernie!

[longship]

71. None of the above.

First, how many times does Elizabeth Warren have to say, "Nyet interested" before people realize that she really wants to be a US Senator?

Unfortunately there are still delusional folks here still flying the Warren 2016 banner, who apparently do not realize that the power in the US government is divided into three equal branches, one of which is the legislative branch.

But no. Warren 2016!!!!!!

Sorry, not interested.

But... But... But... She's not telling the truth. Certainly she's going to run. Why anybody would want another liar to run for president is beyond me. But I would prefer to assume that Senator Warren is an honest person and when she says that she has no intentions of running for national office. I believe her, and I applaud her.

Those who think she is merely prevaricating can support her for president all they want. Isn't that what the presidency has turned into during the past several decades? Those who are so power hungry that they cannot be honest? Myself, I will take her at her word and will support her in the US Senate the best I can.

We need Elizabeth Warren in the Senate. If you really think she's prevaricating about running for president, I feel sorry for you. If she really is, I do not want her as president. Neither should anybody.

[jmowreader]

72. Someone with coattails

A Democratic president can't do anything without a Democratic house and a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate. Like it or not, and I don't, the rules seem to be a hell of a lot different with a Republican in the White House. Shrub got a LOT done with a Democratic-controlled Senate - granted most of it was bad, but a Republican president can move legislation through a Democratic congress and the opposite is not true.

Therefore, I want someone who can get either a Democratic congress elected to serve him or who can motivate a Republican congress to work for the good of the nation. Right now, the best candidate to ensure either happening is Brian Schweitzer.

Given that, the most important upcoming election is actually the state-level general in 2020 - where if we are successful at electing Democrats we can degerrymander a lot of states. 2014, 2016 and 2018 are important in that we need to prevent any more Republican gains. 2020 will let us fix 2010...and because it's a presidential election year there should be good turnout.

[hrmjustin]

74. Hillary.

[11 Bravo]

76. The nominee of the Democratic Party.

[Drunken Irishman]

77. Obama...but since that's not possible, undecided.

[Louisiana1976]

78. I voted for Hillary Clinton

because Elizabeth Warren said she wasn't running.

[snot]

79. I was just curious; and note,

I wasn't asking who you'll end up voting for, since I assume that depends on who's actually running and who actually wins the nomination; but just, who do you wish would win?

And I'm very open to learning about other possible candidates . . . I just haven't seen much talk around here about other candidates.

[RainDog]

81. undecided

I'll support whoever gets the nomination.

Clinton is my least favorite choice of the three, but if she gets the nod, I'll vote for her.

[anti partisan]

82. I am rooting for the 99%.

Attaching myself to a politician's name at this point is a counterproductive exercise.

[donheld]

86. Amen!

[mvd]

85. I really think that..

Bernie Sanders would be a wonderful President - possibly best of the three. I think Warren would have a better chance. But if she doesn't run, Bernie could vault to my #1 choice.

[Logical]

90. Anyone but Hillary! nt

[magical thyme]

95. I would vote Warren or Sanders ahead of Clinton

and there have been other Democrats mentioned that are less high profile than Warren right now, but who are very anti-Wall Street and anti-War and pro-Environment in their actions as well as speech (whose names escape me at the moment) who I would vote for over Clinton any day of the week.

In my life, issues matter more than labels because I have been hanging off a cliff by my fingernails for too many years now.

So to me there are 3 issues that matter more than anything. Clinton's actions fail horribly on all 3 of them.

[marions ghost]

99. Me too

I'm hoping there will be an alternative to Hillary, someone we can get behind more positively.

[Xyzse]

98. Robert Reich to begin...

Martin O'Malley since I'm a MD resident.

I used to think Bill Richardson would be ok.

[randome]

101. For our next President, I'm rooting for . . .

...a Congress he/she can work with. Anything else is like rooting for butter without something to spread it on.
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[City Lights]

103. ABC.

Anyone but Clinton.