Wow! Palin is called "blasphemous" by a Christian group over her torture remarks at NRA.

[Skidmore]

Stunning.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/29/1295557/-Christian-Organization-Starts-Petition-Against-Sarah-Palin

Large Christian Organization Starts Petition Against Sarah Palin
byLeslie Salzillo


Faithful America, is the largest and fastest growing online community of Christians, putting faith into action for social justice. They say they are tired of watching the messages of Jesus be continuously hijacked to serve right-wing political agendas.

This week Faithful America is speaking out, and taking action against Sarah Palin, after her incredibly hateful and bizarre statement during the 2014 National Rifle Association NRAAM convention. Speaking to a cheering NRA crowd, Sarah Palin said,

"…Water boarding is how we baptize terrorists."

Faithful America started a petition saying:

"This is what we've come to in America: A former candidate for vice-president can equate torture and Holy Baptism, and one of the nation's most powerful political lobbies erupts into cheers and applause.


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[Jefferson23]

1. Good for them, her opinions are disgusting. n/t

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. Poor Sarah.

Even her imaginary friends hate her.

[Bortman33]

45. "Even her imaginary friends hate her."

[Scootaloo]

50. +1000

[Nanjing to Seoul]

53. The voices in her head aren't big fans either.

[yuiyoshida]

63. DUZY!

[nomorenomore08]

84. + 5000

[DCBob]

3. Her ugly mouth has finally caught up to her.

[wryter2000]

4. I should find that group

I'd love to finally do something about the perversion of Christianity.

[daleanime]

25. +1

[rwsanders]

49. Couple of groups already well established...

First is Sojourners led by Rev. Jim Wallis. He called right-wing "Christianity" a 'perverse gospel' (www.sojo.net), although avoid the comments on the blogs, there are plenty of right-wingers trying to "teach" everyone else.
There is also the Christian Left www.thechristianleft.org, and a few that are environmental in focus.

[wryter2000]

77. Thanks

I know about Sojourners. The Christian Left is new to me.

[LiberalElite]

60. Here ya go - (I'm on their email list)

http://www.faithfulamerica.org/

[Tess49]

61. Thanks. I just signed up for their emails. n/t

[dsc]

5. On the michael Signiore show

they were discussing that Palin has been condemned by several right wing Christians for her comments so this may well sting.

[YOHABLO]

40. Michael Signorile on Sirius/XM Progressive Channel .. just had to give him a plug

[Politicalboi]

6. Grifter says

Oh for Christ's sake, we won't use holy water on them, now settle down and contribute to ME! ME! ME!

[mainer]

7. Amazingly uplifting organization. Join and donate here:

http://faithfulamerica.org

I'm agnostic, but I truly support loving Christians who don't use their faith to hurt others.

[wryter2000]

16. Thank you

Both for your link and your openmindedness.

[IcyPeas]

28. I left a comment at the link in your message...

to thank them for standing up to Palin.

[johnnyreb]

8. Hell yeah.

k&r.

[TreasonousBastard]

9. If Conservative Citizen hates them...

they must be doing something right.

http://theconservativecitizen.com/2011/06/16/faithful-america-christian-organization-or-left-wing-pac/

Meanwhile, let’s take a look at Faithful America, a “faith-based” organization with a long history of exploiting religion to promote left-wing agendas. The banner on its website looks “religious” enough:

“We are all in this together. Our faith compels us to act. End poverty. Restore community. Uphold the common good.”

...

A visit to the group’s website, makes it clear where the non-profit organization stands:

Republicans slash food aid for low-income women and children.

John Boehner’s budget guts key programs that help struggling families.

Some in Congress think the right way to balance the budget is to cut billions from basic investments in education and child health and nutrition.

We are going on the offensive against immoral budget cuts and threats to workers’ rights in the states.

Work to prevent the catastrophic effects of climate change.

Work for welcoming communities where immigrants and people of all faiths are welcome.

A Salaam A’alaykum ["Peace be with you" in Arabic]. We express our deep sorrow at abuses committed in Iraqi prisons. We stand in solidarity with all those in Iraq and everywhere who demand justice and human dignity.

We condemn the sinful and systemic abuses committed in our name, and pledge to work to right these wrongs.”

Peter King has no shame. He continues to give voice to the fears and hatred of Americans rather than to what Lincoln called “the better angels of our nature.”

And this is a “faith-based” organization? I find it astonishing (supremely hypocritical) that many on the left who decry Christianity – or at the very least, are constantly on the lookout for “separation of church and state” violations (only when it comes to Christians, of course) – support the blatant efforts of groups like Faithful America to influence political agendas of their liking. Imagine the outcry in the liberal media, if Billy Graham’s homepage looked more like a right-wing political blog than a Christian website.

[tofuandbeer]

30. "exploiting religion" ???

That is a huge laugh!
The hypocrisy is ENDLESS with the right wing! But I guess that's what eventually happens when you lie all the time.

[Beartracks]

41. I know, right? He practically says...

... "It's not fair that liberals, who seek separation of church and state, support groups that fight us as we seek to blend church and state. That's not fair, because they said they don't want to mix religion and politics -- that's supposed to leave the field wide open for us who WANT to mix them!!"

That's like punching a peacenik and because you know they're not "supposed" to fight back, and then complaining when they do.

Or like accusing those who condemn racist policies of, y'know, dragging race into the argument.

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[tofuandbeer]

59. +1

""That's like punching a peacenik and because you know they're not "supposed" to fight back, and then complaining when they do.""
Great analogy!

[freshwest]

10. This is great, getting push back. I argued with the Bush loving fundies about this very subject.

Said to them:

Jesus was tortured to death. Where does he say a nation that does this is right?

What does your heart, as you claim to be a Christian, says about what He went through?

I'm hearing more and more Christians IRL furious about what the Republicans are doing to our society.

It's more than time to push back against these utterly hateful and greedy people.

Thanks for the link with the petition. She and her fundie lapdogs need to know that they are on the way out, no matter how they scheme, and willing to kill others.

[etherealtruth]

11. This is a very cool organization

Very progressive and forward thinking.

they don't get a lot of attention because being religiously SANE isn't the stuff headlines are made of

[progressoid]

12. Good for them.

[zeemike]

13. It's about damn time.

Conservatives have been getting away with hi jacking Christianity for decades now.
They violate every last teaching of Jesus they can and get away with it.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

56. second that. n/t

[randr]

14. I have been wondering if there is any moral authority left

within the Christian community.
Her comments could be compared to someone saying the Romans were merely baptizing Jesus to their point of view by hanging him on a cross.

[Kath1]

15. Excellent

I thought her remarks were disgusting. She is just so wrong on so many levels.

[Tribalceltic]

17. K&R

The Christians have needed this for a long time

[Bluenorthwest]

18. Good for them!!!! This is exactly what I always want to see happen!

That comment was just awful and I even thought 'but all the Christians who are offended will just let her get by with it and claim that their silence is not tacit approval but some twisted agape'. So these folks have my support.

[AtheistCrusader]

19. "largest and fastest growing online community of Christians"

They claim 288k members. (with no evidence)

"To join the web's fastest growing Christian Social Network, or for more information on our prayer request and Christian chat features, please visit www.prayergroup.org."

"The fastest growing Christian Social Network in the Universe and having fun doing it! Doing What Jesus Would Do. Saying What Jesus Would Say. livinginblackandwhite.com"

"Join the fastest growing christian social network on the Internet! With over 500,000 members, we have found christian social networking sites to share the love of Jesus Christ. Online prayer groups make it easy for you to get a specific part of your spiritual life filled, bringing together people of the same faith who are looking to keep a close relationship with god." http://www.godsfaithbook.com/

Awful lot of 'fastest growing' Christian social networks out there...
Almost as if someone is inflating numbers to fabricate credibility...

[jberryhill]

37. Getting only 12 members would be a failure

[Tanuki]

67. I saw what you did! Well played.

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[Vashta Nerada]

81. I was thinking the same thing.

[Blue Owl]

20. New Blasphemy Barbie

n/t

[SummerSnow]

29. New Blasphemous Barbie...

She melts if you put holy water on her

[Takket]

21. wow..........

i didn't know there were any christian organizations left that still promoted the teachings of the bible. i thought they all preached the republican platform now

[spanone]

22. i applaud them. she's not a christian leader or even a christian that i'm aware of.

and to equate torture with baptism is some sick shit.

she should shut the fuck up.

[Iliyah]

35. K & R

Matter of fact majority of right wingers are "make believe" Christians, i.e. everyone on fake news, hate radio, et al.

[movonne]

23. Never forgive Mc Cain for unleashing this nit-wit on the public..

[tofuandbeer]

33. I recall the first morning they announced Palin as the running mate.

I had just walked into the gym (in the morning it's full of retired folks who are, most anyway, very conservative—the type that like to pretend they're upper class, although they are members of a low priced gym).

One of the older gentleman was watching the news near the treadmills. When they flashed Palin's scary smiling mug and announced her as McCain's running mate, he put his hand to his forehead, let out a loud grunt and stormed away from the television.

And I'm sure it never got any better after that for him.

[MissMillie]

75. I remember it too

One of the professors in the department I worked in was telling me that she was going to be a problem for the Democratic Party because she was such an accomplished woman. I said I wasn't so sure about that.

About 3 weeks later after she had opened her mouth to speak a few times, he was singing a different tune.

[tofuandbeer]

79. That's funny!

[lumberjack_jeff]

24. Pleasantly surprised. n/t

[mountain grammy]

26. the woman's a charlatan, a shill for cash.

John McCain should be too ashamed to even show his face in public.

[Boreal]

27. Sarah Palin is a CUFI type of "Christian"

and completely irrelevant at that.

[busterbrown]

31. Huge!!! n't

[Swede Atlanta]

32. Progressives have let the nut cases dominate the news....

the time is nigh to confront them everywhere, all the time.....they are cowards who will collapse at the first challenge.

I think if we begin to stand up to them and not let them dominate everything we can begin to dampen their influence.

[Cha]

34. Did palin finally step her big fugugly mouth in deep

shite?

[blkmusclmachine]

36. ,

,

[rustbeltvoice]

38. here is the petition

original goal 15,000 signatures (presently 35,471 signed)

http://act.faithfulamerica.org/sign/palinwaterboarding/?t=1&akid=314.217825.JbKEZF

Posted: April 28, 2014

In a speech Saturday to the National Rifle Association, Sarah Palin said that "if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists." The audience roared with approval.

This is what we've come to in America: A former candidate for vice-president can equate torture and Holy Baptism, and one of the nation's most powerful political lobbies erupts into cheers and applause.

As usual, Palin's remarks are already making international headlines, once again portraying Christianity as a religion of hatred and violence. But this time, let's show just how many Christians are appalled by Palin's twisted misrepresentation of our faith.

We're launching a statement to the media, denouncing her remarks and setting the record straight about baptism, torture, and violence.
Sign the petition:
For Christians, torture is not a joke or a political punchline, but a ghastly reminder of the suffering of Jesus upon the cross. By equating it with Holy Baptism -- the act by which we are united with Christ in his death and resurrection -- Sarah Palin is blasphemously twisting our faith into a weapon of hatred and violence. No media outlet should cover her remarks without reporting on how sincere Christians of all theological and political persuasions are appalled.

[Rider3]

39. Wow!

I need to check out this organization. I mean, a Christian entity that actually practices Christian values? Unbelievable these days!

[El Shaman]

42. Remember the old days:

when they tied folks like Ms. Sarah to a chair, at the end of a long pole, and dunk em in the drink!!!?

[El Shaman]

43. Looks like the good Bishop

Thomas Muthee didn't expel all the evil spirits outa her @ss!!!

[RainDog]

44. good for them. glad to see such action

Palin is lower than the scum in a public toilet.

[Bohunk68]

66. "Lower than the scum in a public toilet."

Dayyyyyyyum, I like that! Never heard that. I WILL use it, RainDog.

[RainDog]

72. edit: nastier than scum in a public toilet

b/c nasty sounds so... nasty. LOL.

[Bohunk68]

90. I like the edit.

[maindawg]

46. There is definitely an opportunity

for a progressive christian church to find a niche catering to progressive christian families. I know a few who are being led down a path that worries me. They are lost. I would be glad to see an honest sect of basic christian family values avail itself to young families who are searching for a church they can trust.
Christianity light

[Ineeda]

47. I don't categorize myself as christian but

I signed this this morning. She's such a despicable excuse for a human that I'd sign pretty much anything to condemn her. She's a piece of hypocritical, evil crap (my apologies to crap of any kind.)

[SalviaBlue]

48. Same here.

[nomorenomore08]

85. Thirded.

[Ilsa]

51. That woman has an ugly, hateful heart. nt

[Knicks007]

52. I do believe

of all the stupid shit that moronic woman has ever said in public, this one here tops them all. She really jumped the shark on this one.

[Jamaal510]

54. It's refreshing to see the Christian Left

become more vocal. Many non-believers have gotten the impression over the decades that these RW spider monkeys represent all Christians (and some people have been scared away from religion altogether), but that really isn't close to being true at all. As Thom Hartmann said during one of his radio segments, religion actually does have a lot to offer people. For example, real Christianity is not about dodging taxes or discrimination. It's not about hoarding guns and being paranoid of the government. It is about treating others the way you want to be treated. It's about creating a more caring community. It's about living--and letting live.

[RainDog]

55. Sean Hannity defends Palin statement: That's the way we roll

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-defends-palin-waterboarding-baptize

I guess Sean Hannity is a piss poor excuse for someone who claims xtian values too - but we already knew that here.

He also supported Cliven Bundy until he didn't.

Why is Sean Hannity given air time on any self-respecting news site? Oh, I guess he isn't - he appeals to the gutter mentality of right wingers.

[Mopar151]

88. Sean Hannity represents

Republicans who wish to fling shit while wearing spotless Armani. No, it never works - but they are compelled to keep trying, it is their only vision.

[niyad]

57. so why is it that we have not heard them speak out before? they have been around at least since

2008--have never heard a word from them about the nonsense "christianity" being spewed by the insane fundies.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

70. You apparently have been reading the wrong posts

[3catwoman3]

58. It was a particularly vile...

...statement, even for her.

She thinks she's soooooooooo very clever, but you can't be a good smartass when you start out being a total dumbass.

[merrily]

62. Thank heaven that Christian left is alive and well and pushing back.

[stonecutter357]

64. K&R

[obxnacy]

65. the mouth

about damn time some of them woke up to the danger this idiot presents to the country and world. thank john mccain for her presence and continued harm. she needs to be muffled and put to pasture way way out in the wilds of alaska with the other animals.

[TNNurse]

68. Actual Christians

How very nice.

[NastyRiffraff]

69. Glad to see this

I'm an atheist, but I applaud religious (not just Christian) groups who are actually moral.

[TlalocW]

71. Faithful America looks like a good group but...

Her being called out by them will likely be dismissed because they're a liberal religious group, after all it's to be expected. If she were in hot water with religious conservatives, this would be more of a story to me.

TlalocW

[G_j]

73. they seem to have had some successes,

from their web page,

A few of our recent successes:

A New York Times September 2012 editorial endorsed our members’ challenge to the nation's top Catholic bishop, Archbishop Timothy Dolan, to crack down on partisan political activity in his parishes.

In a state that’s long been synonymous with the religious right’s political power, the Kansas Speaker of House was caught forwarding an email that asked his friends to pray for the death of President Obama. When 35,000 Faithful America members demanded he resign, our petition made headline news in every outlet in the state and forced him to offer a series of embarrassing public apologies that doubtless contributed to his June 2012 decision not to run for reelection.

After local clergy delivered over 100,000 petition signatures in July 2012, the public television system in Alabama, under the control of right-wing political appointees, reversed its plans to air a bogus documentary presenting the religious right's twisted retelling of American history.

[packman]

74. Well, she could have said

"We nail terrorists to the cross"
or
"Let's put them in a sealed tomb and see if they can resurrect themselves after 3 days"

or

"Their suicide bombers don't get a second chance in our country" - now, that's a Palin quote

[czarjak]

76. Member of the Assembly of God Church?

She's either sleeping in church or just not getting the message.

[TeamPooka]

78. That woman is an idiot. nt

[bvar22]

80. "blasphemous"? "equate torture and Holy Baptism"?

"twisting our faith into a weapon of hatred and violence"?

"a mixture of pagan ethics and civil deistic religion.”

That has been tried before.
It didn't end well.

[Vashta Nerada]

82. I wonder what this "christian group" thinks of the catholic church's hoarding of money and cover-up

of sexual abuse to children? Until they address those issues as well, this "story" means nothing to me.

[gordianot]

83. So Palin managed to top putting targets on politicians

Something about using firearms venues does not work out well for Palin. She is hoping in a couple weeks people will forget this like targeting Gabby Giffords. My theory is Palin knows the only way she can get attention is by creating escalating levels of outrage.

[nyabingi]

86. I hope more people realize

how off the rails Palin is now. And to think some people were actually willing to make her VP.

[indepat]

87. The virulence of Palin is so virulently appealing to the true-believer

[BlueJac]

89. SICK is all I can say! WTF?