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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 07:02 AM Apr 2014

"Insiders Don't Criticize Other Insiders"

A recent review in the New York Times of Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren’s new memoir “A Fighting Chance” recalls a stunningly despicable quote by Summers.


In the spring of 2009, when the banker handout, I mean bailout, was a heated topic of discussion, Elizabeth Warren attended a dinner with Mr. Summers who at the time was the director of the National Economic Council and a top economic adviser to President Obama. This is what transpired:

After dinner, “Larry leaned back in his chair and offered me some advice,” Ms. Warren writes. “I had a choice. I could be an insider or I could be an outsider.

Outsiders can say whatever they want. But people on the inside don’t listen to them.

Insiders, however, get lots of access and a chance to push their ideas. People — powerful people — listen to what they have to say.


But insiders also understand one unbreakable rule: They don’t criticize other insiders.



What is so incredible about the quote above is that it essentially proves correct everything I and many others have been saying about how “things work” in America these days. The statements above describe a petty, childish oligarchy of arrogant fools.


This small club of people call all the shots and do not listen to “outside” ideas whatsoever. This is why nothing changes. This is why the same people are recycled through positions of power over and over again no matter how badly they screw up and how many millions of lives they ruin.


This is why there is a two-tiered justice system in which the rich and connected never go to jail, while the average citizen can have his home raided by police for a parody Twitter account.


This is why the 0.01% have been able to loot all of the nation’s wealth while median inflation adjusted wages have been declining for 40 years.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-29/quote-day-larry-summers-elizabeth-warren-insiders-dont-criticize-other-insiders

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/business/from-outside-or-inside-the-deck-looks-stacked.html


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"Insiders Don't Criticize Other Insiders" (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 OP
And that is how they keep the game rigged liberal N proud Apr 2014 #1
A la lanterne! Demeter Apr 2014 #2
Carlin - The Real Owners Of America Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #3
Bravo, Mr. Carlin! Aldo Leopold Apr 2014 #4
Yep he had it right. zeemike Apr 2014 #10
Exactly! ctsnowman Apr 2014 #12
I don't recall George stating that the country is finished. Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #21
"…of SELFISH, GREEDY, TRAITOROUS, and arrogant fools." stillwaiting Apr 2014 #5
Shameful but believable. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #6
A raid caused by a parody twitter account? hootinholler Apr 2014 #7
THE POLICE RAIDED MY FRIEND'S HOUSE OVER A PARODY TWITTER ACCOUNT Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #9
FMH! hootinholler Apr 2014 #11
Its the same in small town government and.... rgbecker Apr 2014 #8
Oh, noes. You mean all those internet petitions I used to sign did NOT change policy? merrily Apr 2014 #13
Larry Summers led the charge to deregulate the banks, S&L style. Octafish Apr 2014 #14
And who was it that picked Geitner and Summers? nonoxy9 Apr 2014 #16
But-but-but Robert Rubin needs star billing. Octafish Apr 2014 #19
Larry Summers the psychopath Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #22
The Memo Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #23
The guy's bringing to America what he brought to da Woild. Octafish Apr 2014 #28
Voting will not change this. You're delusional if you think it will. L0oniX Apr 2014 #15
+1000 n/t jtuck004 Apr 2014 #17
This. ^^^ CrispyQ Apr 2014 #20
One is left with the choice of going along, getting along or so long. raouldukelives Apr 2014 #18
Most "insiders" are a threat human existence and all life on the planet, Zorra Apr 2014 #24
Kick!n/t BuelahWitch Apr 2014 #25
Larry Summers.... bvar22 Apr 2014 #26
Works in Hollywood also...no one who complains about who won or was nominated... joeybee12 Apr 2014 #27
But...my congressman showed real concern... moondust Apr 2014 #29
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
2. A la lanterne!
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 07:29 AM
Apr 2014
Lanterne is a French word designating a lantern or lamp post. The word, or the slogan "À la lanterne!" (in English: To the Lamp Post!, String Them Up! or Hang Them! or the American expression "Hang 'Em High!&quot gained special meaning and status in Paris and France during the early phase of the French Revolution, from the summer of 1789. Lamp posts served as an instrument to mobs to perform extemporised lynchings and executions in the streets of Paris during the revolution when the people of Paris occasionally hanged officials and aristocrats from the lamp posts.

La Lanterne became a symbol of popular or street justice in revolutionary France. The slogan "À la lanterne!" is referred to in such emblematic songs as Ça Ira ("les aristocrates à la lanterne!" means "aristocrats to the lamp-post!" in this context). Journalist Camille Desmoulins, who had earlier practiced law, designated himself "The Lantern Attorney." He wrote a pamphlet entitled (in translation) "The Lamp Post Speaks to Parisians," in which "la lantèrne" tells the people, "I've always been here. You could have been using me all along!". As the revolutionary government became established, lamp posts were no longer needed as execution instruments, being replaced by the guillotine which became infamous in Paris during 1792-1794, though all major French cities had their own.

Hanging people from lamp posts ceased to be a part of Paris rebellions in the 19th Century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%80_la_lanterne


But, By God, the 1% are bringing it back into fashion!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. Carlin - The Real Owners Of America
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 07:42 AM
Apr 2014

6-24-8

"The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They've got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying ­ lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else."

"But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.

"You know what they want? Obedient workers people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're coming for your Social Security. They want your fucking retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club."

"This country is finished."

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. I don't recall George stating that the country is finished.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:25 AM
Apr 2014

I recall that piece ending with this line:
"It's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it."

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
5. "…of SELFISH, GREEDY, TRAITOROUS, and arrogant fools."
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:26 AM
Apr 2014

There, I fixed that a little bit.

Those descriptors are very important in describing the types of people that have been allowed access to power in this country.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. THE POLICE RAIDED MY FRIEND'S HOUSE OVER A PARODY TWITTER ACCOUNT
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:43 AM
Apr 2014

Jon Daniel woke up on Thursday morning to a news crew in his living room, which was a welcome change from the company he had on Tuesday night, when the Peoria, Illinois, police came crashing through the door. The officers tore the 28-year-old’s home apart, seizing electronics and taking several of his roommates in for questioning; one woman who lived there spent three hours in an interrogation room. All for a parody Twitter account.

http://www.vice.com/read/the-police-raided-my-friends-house-over-a-parody-twitter-account

Police Raid Apartment, Seize Electronics Related To A Long-Suspended Twitter Account Parodying Town's Mayor

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140418/09431926959/police-raid-apartment-seize-electronics-related-to-long-suspended-twitter-account-parodying-towns-mayor.shtml

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. Oh, noes. You mean all those internet petitions I used to sign did NOT change policy?
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:09 AM
Apr 2014

Because I am neither a "job creator" nor an insider?

Ya know, after about ten years, I started to suspect no one in Washington (or any government office) was waiting with bated breath to learn what the will of the people was. Not that it's that hard to figure out in the first place.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. Larry Summers led the charge to deregulate the banks, S&L style.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:15 AM
Apr 2014

Not just Elizabeth Warren who was shocked on what that greasy turd of the superrich said:



Larry Summers: Goldman Sacked

By Greg Palast
Reader Supported News, September 16, 2013

Joseph Stiglitz couldn't believe his ears. Here they were in the White House, with President Bill Clinton asking the chiefs of the US Treasury for guidance on the life and death of America's economy, when the Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Larry Summers turns to his boss, Secretary Robert Rubin, and says, "What would Goldman think of that?"

Huh?

Then, at another meeting, Summers said it again: What would Goldman think?

A shocked Stiglitz, then Chairman of the President's Council of Economic Advisors, told me he'd turned to Summers, and asked if Summers thought it appropriate to decide US economic policy based on "what Goldman thought." As opposed to say, the facts, or say, the needs of the American public, you know, all that stuff that we heard in Cabinet meetings on The West Wing.

Summers looked at Stiglitz like Stiglitz was some kind of naive fool who'd read too many civics books.

CONTINUED...

http://www.gregpalast.com/larry-summers-goldman-sacked/



Thank you for the heads-up on a most important article on the true nature of the playing field, Ichingcarpenter. They really must think they're doing their "God's work," seeing how they worship Mammon.

nonoxy9

(236 posts)
16. And who was it that picked Geitner and Summers?
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:38 AM
Apr 2014

"But the fact that Obama even tried to shove Summers down the planet's throat tells us more about Obama than Summers—and whom Obama works for. Hint: You aren't one of them." Palast

Umm, maybe we're not supposed to talk about that part of the story...

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
19. But-but-but Robert Rubin needs star billing.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:00 AM
Apr 2014

It's in the contrack, under the finest of fine print:



The Shocking Redistribution of Wealth in the Past Five Years

by Paul Buchheit
Published on Monday, December 30, 2013 by Common Dreams

Anyone reviewing the data is likely to conclude that there must be some mistake. It doesn't seem possible that one out of twenty American families could each have made a million dollars since Obama became President, while the average American family's net worth has barely recovered. But the evidence comes from numerous reputable sources.

Some conservatives continue to claim that President Obama is unfriendly to business, but the facts show that the richest Americans and the biggest businesses have been the main - perhaps only - beneficiaries of the massive wealth gain over the past five years.

1. $5 Million to Each of the 1%, and $1 Million to Each of the Next 4%

From the end of 2008 to the middle of 2013 total U.S. wealth increased from $47 trillion to $72 trillion. About $16 trillion of that is financial gain (stocks and other financial instruments).

The richest 1% own about 38 percent of stocks, and half of non-stock financial assets. So they've gained at least $6.1 trillion (38 percent of $16 trillion). That's over $5 million for each of 1.2 million households.

The next richest 4%, based on similar calculations, gained about $5.1 trillion. That's over a million dollars for each of their 4.8 million households.

The least wealthy 90% in our country own only 11 percent of all stocks excluding pensions (which are fast disappearing). The frantic recent surge in the stock market has largely bypassed these families.

2. Evidence of Our Growing Wealth Inequality

This first fact is nearly ungraspable: In 2009 the average wealth for almost half of American families was ZERO (their debt exceeded their assets).

In 1983 the families in America's poorer half owned an average of about $15,000. But from 1983 to 1989 median wealth fell from over $70,000 to about $60,000. From 1998 to 2009, fully 80% of American families LOST wealth. They had to borrow to stay afloat.

It seems the disparity couldn't get much worse, but after the recession it did. According to a Pew Research Center study, in the first two years of recovery the mean net worth of households in the upper 7% of the wealth distribution rose by an estimated 28%, while the mean net worth of households in the lower 93% dropped by 4%. And then, from 2011 to 2013, the stock market grew by almost 50 percent, with again the great majority of that gain going to the richest 5%.

Today our wealth gap is worse than that of the third world. Out of all developed and undeveloped countries with at least a quarter-million adults, the U.S. has the 4th-highest degree of wealth inequality in the world, trailing only Russia, Ukraine, and Lebanon.

3. Congress' Solution: Take from the Poor

Congress has responded by cutting unemployment benefits and food stamps, along with other 'sequester' targets like Meals on Wheels for seniors and Head Start for preschoolers. The more the super-rich make, the more they seem to believe in the cruel fantasy that the poor are to blame for their own struggles.

President Obama recently proclaimed that inequality "drives everything I do in this office." Indeed it may, but in the wrong direction.

FORUM HOSTS, PLEASE NOTE: This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License.

Paul Buchheit is a college teacher, an active member of US Uncut Chicago, founder and developer of social justice and educational websites (UsAgainstGreed.org, PayUpNow.org, RappingHistory.org), and the editor and main author of "American Wars: Illusions and Realities" (Clarity Press). He can be reached at paul@UsAgainstGreed.org.

Original Article: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/12/30-0

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
22. Larry Summers the psychopath
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:08 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Larry Summers (Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations) – another insider appointed to Obama’s team of ‘change’. Summers is a fanatical supporter of ‘free trade’ (freedom to exploit) and ‘globalisation’ (global dictatorship) and he wrote a memo in 1991, while chief economist to the World Bank, saying that the bank should dump toxic waste in poor countries because the costs of the ensuing ill-health and death would be lower. When the memo was made public, Brazil’s then-Secretary of the Environment, Jose Lutzenburger, told Summers:

Your reasoning is perfectly logical but totally insane … Your thoughts [provide] a concrete example of the unbelievable alienation, reductionist thinking, social ruthlessness and the arrogant ignorance of many conventional ‘economists’ concerning the nature of the world we live in … If the World Bank keeps you as vice president it will lose all credibility. To me it would confirm what I often said …the best thing that could happen would be for the Bank to disappear.’

http://www.whirledbank.org/ourwords/summers.html



Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
23. The Memo
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:33 PM
Apr 2014

The Memo

DATE: December 12, 1991
TO: Distribution
FR: Lawrence H. Summers
Subject: GEP

'Dirty' Industries: Just between you and me, shouldn't the World Bank be encouraging MORE migration of the dirty industries to the LDCs [Less Developed Countries]? I can think of three reasons:

1) The measurements of the costs of health impairing pollution depends on the foregone earnings from increased morbidity and mortality. From this point of view a given amount of health impairing pollution should be done in the country with the lowest cost, which will be the country with the lowest wages. I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that.

2) The costs of pollution are likely to be non-linear as the initial increments of pollution probably have very low cost. I've always though that under-populated countries in Africa are vastly UNDER-polluted, their air quality is probably vastly inefficiently low compared to Los Angeles or Mexico City. Only the lamentable facts that so much pollution is generated by non-tradable industries (transport, electrical generation) and that the unit transport costs of solid waste are so high prevent world welfare enhancing trade in air pollution and waste.

3) The demand for a clean environment for aesthetic and health reasons is likely to have very high income elasticity. The concern over an agent that causes a one in a million change in the odds of prostrate cancer is obviously going to be much higher in a country where people survive to get prostrate cancer than in a country where under 5 mortality is is 200 per thousand. Also, much of the concern over industrial atmosphere discharge is about visibility impairing particulates. These discharges may have very little direct health impact. Clearly trade in goods that embody aesthetic pollution concerns could be welfare enhancing. While production is mobile the consumption of pretty air is a non-tradable.

The problem with the arguments against all of these proposals for more pollution in LDCs (intrinsic rights to certain goods, moral reasons, social concerns, lack of adequate markets, etc.) could be turned around and used more or less effectively against every Bank proposal for liberalization.

http://www.whirledbank.org/ourwords/summers.html

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
28. The guy's bringing to America what he brought to da Woild.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 05:40 PM
Apr 2014

Debt. Despair. Death.



In 2001, I met Stiglitz whom I’d heard was quietly expressing grave doubts about austerity and structural adjustment à la Summers. He agreed to go public. Over several hours of discussion, which I recorded for BBC TV, Stiglitz charged that IMF-imposed austerity was “ a little like the Middle Ages, when the patient died they would say well, we stopped the bloodletting too soon, he still had a little blood in him.”

SOURCE: http://www.gregpalast.com/the-golden-dawn-murder-case-larry-summers-and-the-new-fascism/



And it's all LEGAL like.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
20. This. ^^^
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:13 AM
Apr 2014

They control the voting process hook, line & sinker. Gerrymandered districts, electronic voting, voter disenfranchisement, a "fair & balanced" corporate media, a dumb-ed down, apathetic public.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
18. One is left with the choice of going along, getting along or so long.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:56 AM
Apr 2014

Being cursed with a liberal mentality, at this point, one is left with no choice other than abandonment. That is, if one considers themselves someone on the side of liberty, social justice, equality or pro-environmental issues.
For those unencumbered with a conscience, the choice is an easy one. Jam that nose as deep as it can go. Never feeling in your gut that twist of pain. Never considering the water you carry on a daily basis for those keeping us enslaved, hungry and leading our children and wildlife into a future of unceasing pain. All in the name of corporate profit margins. All for the sake of a few extra decimals.
The only chance we have is slipping away. Every dollar in them is a dollar against us.

"There is only one thing worse than Injustice, and that is Justice without her sword in her hand."

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
24. Most "insiders" are a threat human existence and all life on the planet,
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:41 PM
Apr 2014

and should be "insiders" locked inside a maximum security prison, in order to prevent them from causing more harm.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
26. Larry Summers....
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 01:11 PM
Apr 2014

The above quote explains Newly Elected President Obama's choices for his "New Team".
Certainly NOT the "Team of Rivals" he promised.

[font size=5]
The DLC New Team
ONLY Insiders Need Apply
[/font]

(Screen Capped from the DLC Website)

After dinner, “Larry leaned back in his chair and offered me some advice,” Ms. Warren writes. “I had a choice. I could be an insider or I could be an outsider.

Outsiders can say whatever they want. But people on the inside don’t listen to them.

Insiders, however, get lots of access and a chance to push their ideas. People — powerful people — listen to what they have to say.


But insiders also understand one unbreakable rule: They don’t criticize other insiders.


Oh what could have been!
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
27. Works in Hollywood also...no one who complains about who won or was nominated...
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 01:16 PM
Apr 2014

Ever wins or gets nominated him or herself...honor among thieves, IMHO.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
29. But...my congressman showed real concern...
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 05:59 PM
Apr 2014

at his town hall during the campaign.

Then he went to Washington and disappeared in a crowd of self-serving insiders.

End of story.

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