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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:53 AM Apr 2014

This Is The Personality Trait That Most Often Predicts Success

The only major personality trait that consistently leads to success is conscientiousness.

"It's emerging as one of the primary dimensions of successful functioning across the lifespan," Paul Tough writes in "How Children Succeed." "It really goes cradle to grave in terms of how people do."

Tough says that people who test high in conscientiousness get better grades in school and college, commit fewer crimes, and stay married longer.

They live longer, too, he says. And not just because they smoke and drink less. They have fewer strokes, lower blood pressure, and a lower incidence of Alzheimer's disease.

There's a staggering amount of research linking conscientiousness with success. A National Institute of Mental Health study found that conscientious men earn higher salaries. The National Institute on Aging also found that conscientiousness is linked to income and job satisfaction. Other studies show that conscientiousness is the most important factor for finding and retaining employment.

How do you know if you're conscientious? Conscientious people tend to be super organized, planful, and responsible. They work hard in the face of challenges and can control their impulses.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/conscientiousness-predicts-success-2014-4

Can schools teach conscientiousness?
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This Is The Personality Trait That Most Often Predicts Success (Original Post) FarCenter Apr 2014 OP
IDK mercuryblues Apr 2014 #1
I don't know about this study yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #33
The link to my teacher statement. yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #34
Wait. I'd always heard innate sarcasm was the key to success? DirkGently Apr 2014 #2
Only in comedy. FarCenter Apr 2014 #3
This explains a LOT! DirkGently Apr 2014 #4
And around here don't forget to tag sarcasm FarCenter Apr 2014 #5
Feels like explaining the joke though, DirkGently Apr 2014 #6
It does. Scuba Apr 2014 #11
conscientious is too hard to spell Enrique Apr 2014 #7
super organized, planful, responsible, and can control their impulses. progressoid Apr 2014 #8
When I was in 11th grade, I was a TA for an 8th grade english teacher. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #9
I've known few unconscious successful people jberryhill Apr 2014 #10
... eppur_se_muova Apr 2014 #12
well, poor impulse control leads to anti social behavior but not the kind of anti social bettyellen Apr 2014 #13
nice point. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #22
very interesting point you raised too.... bettyellen Apr 2014 #39
yeah...there's even a name for it. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2014 #14
Neuroticism too? ErikJ Apr 2014 #15
How does overthrowing an oligarchy rate on the conscientiousness scale? n/t cprise Apr 2014 #16
Philip Stanhope sez... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #18
It is at the top of my list Tribalceltic Apr 2014 #19
Indeed. I don't think many billionaires were interviewed for this study. cprise Apr 2014 #23
Conscientious "successful" people are destroying the planet. hunter Apr 2014 #17
Environmental conscientiousness ErikJ Apr 2014 #20
reproductive conscientiousness too. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #24
best for that is Women's rights conscientiousness ErikJ Apr 2014 #28
Yes! Quite so! BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #47
someone posted about a guy who runs a sandwich shop that is sustainable yesterday JI7 Apr 2014 #37
I don't know. madaboutharry Apr 2014 #21
Yes, it can be taught . . FairWinds Apr 2014 #25
I think that's right, particularly when teachers who were demanding also modeled conscientiousness FarCenter Apr 2014 #35
I didn't know 'planful' was a word... Ron Obvious Apr 2014 #26
I thought it would have been narcissism, sociopathy, and/or stupidity. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #27
What about Godliness? ErikJ Apr 2014 #29
That would fall under sociopathy. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #30
You and me both. nt raccoon Apr 2014 #32
if you think the only thing that matters is making a lot of money JI7 Apr 2014 #38
I am. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #41
but the OP includes other things also which would exclude a lot of big money types JI7 Apr 2014 #42
I know. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #43
i have never cared for it and i am from an area full of these types JI7 Apr 2014 #45
Let's be honest, while those traits seem to be common among the 1%, hughee99 Apr 2014 #46
Update your resumes NOW…. Tikki Apr 2014 #31
i think i am conscienctious but i'm not organized, planful, or always responsible JI7 Apr 2014 #36
Author Paul Tough on his book "How Children Succeed" FarCenter Apr 2014 #44
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
33. I don't know about this study
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:25 PM
Apr 2014

Teachers get alzhimers at an alarming rate and I would think that they are pretty conscientious.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
9. When I was in 11th grade, I was a TA for an 8th grade english teacher.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 01:17 PM
Apr 2014

That June I asked him to sign my yearbook. In it, he wrote that I was the most conscientious person he'd ever met.

It was the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. well, poor impulse control leads to anti social behavior but not the kind of anti social
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 01:57 PM
Apr 2014

behavior that is rewarded- the planful organized kind.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
22. nice point.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:28 PM
Apr 2014

True.

Also, it looks like the study focused on a traditional masculine role (at first glance, anyway. I need to read whole article. )

I wonder what the results would be if women in a traditional role were studied. I've seen so so so many case studies showing conscientious devotion to that role of "selfless mother" ending up poorly for the woman.

Response to FarCenter (Original post)

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
15. Neuroticism too?
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:07 PM
Apr 2014

" Psychologists classify conscientiousness is one of the "Big 5" personality traits, with the others being agreeableness, extroversion, neuroticism, and openness to experience. The other traits can predict certain workplace outcomes — extroversion is a great fit for highly social gigs like sales and openness to experience often leads to creativity — but conscientiousness is remarkable for the way it cuts across roles."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/conscientiousness-predicts-success-2014-4#ixzz30OUoRSO2

cprise

(8,445 posts)
23. Indeed. I don't think many billionaires were interviewed for this study.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:28 PM
Apr 2014

Its more about following rules laid down within corporate fiefdoms. In this context, "impulse control" can be a euphemism for repression.

hunter

(38,340 posts)
17. Conscientious "successful" people are destroying the planet.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:16 PM
Apr 2014

What good will our own "success" be when eventually the human population crashes?

When our descendants are digging through the toxic ruins of our civilization they won't be thinking we were conscientious and successful. They'll be thinking we were possessed by some kind of evil insanity.

90% of what humans now do is destructive crap. Our twisted "work ethics" and definitions of "productivity" are going to kill us. Lazy Zonker Harris, experimenting with new breeds of cannabis is a better human than most of us.

Everyone ought to just chill out and go home. Read a book to the kids. Sing a song. Plant a garden. Live on the beach and surf. Practice birth control and have lots of safe sex. Most anything is better than so much of the work people do. Let's get rid of the coal mines, the fracking fields, the long automobile commutes to work...

It ought to be a felony to work more than twenty hours a week. It's a damn shame that our society isn't structured that way; instead most of us are brainwashed wage slaves and slave drivers supporting the lavish but pathetic lifestyles of billionaire scumbags like Donald Sterling, the Koch Brothers, Mitt Romney, etc., etc...






 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
20. Environmental conscientiousness
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:22 PM
Apr 2014

is what we need more of. But its going to take active successful (conscientious) people to spread it and make it work.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
24. reproductive conscientiousness too.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:34 PM
Apr 2014

Doesn't matter how sustainable we can make our technology....people still have an impact. Each human requires space, consumes, produces waste.... overpopulation is a critical part of the equation.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
28. best for that is Women's rights conscientiousness
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:43 PM
Apr 2014

The more equal women in a society the lower the birth rate.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
47. Yes! Quite so!
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:40 PM
May 2014

I'd love to see more "reality" teaching, too. Dismantle the societal assumption that motherhood is every woman's goal.

So many women (and some men too) have a romantic fantasy of a baby completing them, or fixing their marriage, or making their boyfriend stay, or getting them attention.....

JI7

(89,283 posts)
37. someone posted about a guy who runs a sandwich shop that is sustainable yesterday
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:47 PM
Apr 2014

i think the article would mean people like that guy and not some corrupt whore who made a lot of money by cheating people on things like real estate, investments etc.

madaboutharry

(40,244 posts)
21. I don't know.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:24 PM
Apr 2014

I have seen a lot of coasters who are successful because they simultaneously know how to kiss ass while making themselves look like they're doing their job.

A lot of hard working and conscientious people struggle because their not ass kissers.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
25. Yes, it can be taught . .
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:36 PM
Apr 2014

I tried hard in teaching at the university level to get across the idea of
doing quality work and getting it done on time . .
It worked for some at least . .
". . I am grateful that I was able to have you as a part of my [University] career. It was a little too easy to cruise through most of my other courses. You really made me work, and the skills I learned during your courses have been truly valuable to me as I continue my education."
But as is pointed out above, it can be carried to extremes . . obsessive compulsion, anorexia, etc.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
35. I think that's right, particularly when teachers who were demanding also modeled conscientiousness
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:28 PM
Apr 2014

They were clear about what was to be studied, how to go about learning the material, and what exercises, problems, exams were to be done. Then a demand for a lot of quality work, done on time, drove learning.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
26. I didn't know 'planful' was a word...
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:38 PM
Apr 2014

Does it mean full of plans (I know some real losers with those), or does it mean 'inclined to plan for the future'?

It's an ugly word regardless.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
27. I thought it would have been narcissism, sociopathy, and/or stupidity.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 02:39 PM
Apr 2014

At least it is here in America.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
43. I know.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:04 PM
Apr 2014

But I'm talking about what American society thinks success is measured by and that is by how much money one makes.

JI7

(89,283 posts)
45. i have never cared for it and i am from an area full of these types
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:11 PM
Apr 2014

i view them as pathetic with their need to impress others they don't know.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
46. Let's be honest, while those traits seem to be common among the 1%,
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:17 PM
Apr 2014

they're not exactly rare in the 99% either.

JI7

(89,283 posts)
36. i think i am conscienctious but i'm not organized, planful, or always responsible
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:44 PM
Apr 2014

but i am aware of my flaws.

i'm guessing success in this case does not mean who makes the most money but an overall life of a person. so it could mean someone who is middle class and is able to afford what they need and a few other things would be considered someone more conscientous/sucessfull than some corrupt wealthy type without anyone who really cares about them(and not their money) in their life.

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