Uncle Ruckus? Is that you?

[bigtree]

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Here are his comments, via the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

[JustAnotherGen]

1. I suspect most here

Won't have any idea who that is in your op! But did you see the one on Monday night?

You gotta watch it - because this is ohhhhhhhhhhh soooooooooo true!

[bigtree]

3. heh

. . . yep, that was a good one. What will become of Grampaw Freeman and the kids?

[JustAnotherGen]

6. I dunno

But I'm glad to see the 'middle' Wuncler - they've never had him before. Wondering who they based him on since his son is George Bush!

[Jamaal510]

23. IDK about Ed Jr.,

but I heard Ed lll was based off of a mix of Bush ll and Eminem.

[JustAnotherGen]

24. Mixing Em in

Totally makes sense - and now I would love a live action movie of The Boondocks!

[MADem]

2. Uncle Ruckus?

I heard he made a name for himself! Dragged the name of a Brandeis Professor through the mud and made it all the way to the Supreme Court!

[bravenak]

4. Why yes it is him.

This is unreal.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. Aww jeez it is!

[bravenak]

8. You see the one where his gramma came to die?

Or where he ran for president? I'm still laughing.

[JustAnotherGen]

11. You gotta watch Monday night's episode

Season 4 started this past Saturday. . . Now Ruckus is running for Mayor.

And the theme from Good Times keeps playing throughout the show!

[bravenak]

12. I saw it!!

I didn't know that was the new one. Poor dumb grandad.
Uncle ruckus reminded me of Herman Cain in that episode.

[JustAnotherGen]

13. They did do a good job of

Making the comparison!

Poor Granddad! Taken in by an 'easy credit rip off' and he didn't know that crazy line was 'hanging in a chow line'.

Then again - I didn't know it until Chappelle cleared it up for everyone!

[bravenak]

14. Me neither.

I thought it was hanging with my shortie.

[malaise]

5. Perfect

Rec

[LittleBlue]

9. Uncle Ruckus lol

Great show!

[Laelth]

10. He doesn't know his history.

He says:

Well, what did government policies do? It broke up the black family, told the black family: ‘Hey, if you want to receive this welfare check, the man can’t be in the household.’ Huh?

“Talk about government policies. In 1965, prior to that, illegitimacy in then black community was less than 13 percent. Today it’s over 70 percent. Government liberal Democrat policies.

It was the Republicans who insisted that, in order to get an AFDC check, there could be no adult man in the household. Liberals wanted AFDC to be aid to the poor, or, more specifically, aid to families, and thus the name for the law (Aid to Families with Dependent Children). It was Republican policy (no man in the house if you want a check) that led to the family dissolution Mr. Grayson describes.

Liberals didn't like it at the time (1958--Eisenhower was President), but they went along with the Republicans on the "something is better than nothing" theory. In this case I agree. AFDC was better than nothing. It's gone now. TANF, its replacement, is almost useless, but Mr. Grayson is dead wrong to blame the social ills he describes on either liberals or Democrats.

-Laelth

[951-Riverside]

19. +1. THIS deserves a post of its own so it can be properly voted up

[Tuesday Afternoon]

21. +2

[alp227]

26. Derrick Grayson? That guy was on Thom Hartmann's show 2 months back.

Denouncing the Republican Party as full of bigots. Turns out the preacher man has sold his soul to the devil.

[Laelth]

27. Strange.

How did he go from being so right to being so wrong? Odd.



-Laelth

[LiberalAndProud]

15. The antigovernmenent sentiment that surrounds Bundy is winning this argument.

Norquist's bathtub is in the next room. Hold your breath.

[bigtree]

16. winning?

. . . these vulgar and ignorant expressions are the last gasps of a fading generation of bigots and their delusional lackeys.

It's an interesting dynamic in which social media has encouraged both the seepage of their conversations from their back rooms and provided a ready opposition to their nonsense. It may well be that their numbers appear inflated because of the increased visibility and the exposure given their comments, but I think this type of rhetoric is on course to a great deal of correction and consequence from the expanded audience. It's definitely an opportunity to put this type of nonsense in its place.

[LiberalAndProud]

17. I don't think I am exagerating in my assessment.

I can only speak anecdotally, but I am appalled at the sentiment I have been witness to.

bigtree, I am ready to fold my tent and show the white flag. I wish I could share your optimism, but I am feeling overwhelmed and utterly defeated.

[bigtree]

18. it's certainly more out in the open than in the recent past, but life experience dwindles its appeal

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. . . as folks realize the falseness of the rhetoric in their own interactions with the rapidly diversifying society.

It's certainly hard to quantify it all, but I can see a clear progression away from bigotry, although we certainly need to be eternally vigilant. That realization and understanding, I suppose, is what keeps me from despair.

One of the most important things that remember from history is the record of Abraham Lincoln's 'emancipation' efforts for blacks in America and the reality of his own ambivalence toward black independence, and even about their ability to coexist with whites in this country. In a debate with Stephen Douglas in 1858, Lincoln was clear about his antipathy toward giving blacks rights regularly afforded to the white majority:

Lincoln:

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races—that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

His subsequent embrace of the 13th Amendment reflects the way America, as a whole, was compelled to relinquish their prejudices and accept the emergence of rights for blacks in the newly United States. It's that insistent leadership from the top (and all other quarters) that caused those progressive notions to advance.

I remember a story I read of the integration of a particular school in the South where ALL of the white students were pulled out of classes by their parents when a handful of black youth were admitted. Those black youth attended classes in a virtually empty school that year. The next year, however, the majority of the white students had been allowed to return - and time and history marched on.

It really is remarkable how our insistence on progressive change has the potential to move mountains of resistance, in the end. History tells us this.

[LiberalAndProud]

20. Except

Bundy was taken out of context. He's just an old guy who is a victim of his unenlightened past. He is not a racist. Also, the federal government should have no authority or standing on these lands which are not federal lands. Not only that, HUD housing does not benefit from federal taxes. Our government does absolutely nothing to help the people. Bundy is resisting factory farming and fracking.

Turtles.

so there.

Having a lovely day here. Happy that you are too.

[bigtree]

25. ha!

. . . turtles.

[TheKentuckian]

22. Isn't he on the Supreme Court already?

[giftedgirl77]

28. That's his twin...