Tina Brown: Hillary is "better off" NOT being president.

[CTyankee]

I don't know whether to laugh out loud or just get disgusted. Tina was on Morning Joe today making the case for Hillary just to kick back and concentrate on the Clinton Foundation where she can do a lot more. The presidency is stuck in a gridlock situation and as President she won't be able to get anything done. So just don't try in the first place.

Tina Brown never struck me as particularly partisan so I am not seeing this as a Republican strategy to keep Hillary out of the 2016 presidential race. But Joe Scar sure liked her argument and that makes me suspicious.

Oh, and Joe is back yelling about Benghazi and Jay Carney is LYING and he's ruining his reputation and you better look out, Jay, you won't be press secretary forever...yadda, yadda, yadda...

He got so bad yesterday that Sam Stein didn't want to talk about it, saying "I'm too scared to say anything" (translated: "you are crazy!&quot .

Mika giggled.

[DURHAM D]

1. Mika is a battered spouse.

[VanillaRhapsody]

2. So this Tina has given up the idea that we could take back the House in the Midterms...

hmmmmm

[brooklynite]

24. I don't think anyone of ANY political intelligence thinks we cane take back the House

Sometimes reality is cruel.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. i don't think its quite reality.....a distinct possibility maybe but not a foregone conclusion...

[BeyondGeography]

3. Tina Brown...and, on that note, I would like to thank our friends across the pond for the BritTrash

all of it, that you have been sending to us since Reagan.

How conveeeeeenient that she feels that way.

[Tom Ripley]

18. ^^THIS^^

[HipChick]

25. You are welcome..Politico has hit piece on Tina Brown and how she blew $100M

Interesting read..

[Generic Other]

4. I am having random uncomfortable flashbacks

8 years of daily Whitewater, Vince Foster, Rose Law Firm Billing Records, Linda Tripp, Monica, "I did not have sex with that woman..." et al. ACK!!!! Please. Hearing about Benghazi for 8 more years will push me over the edge.

Why not find a viable candidate with fewer anchors around her neck?

[DURHAM D]

6. Buck up dear.

[Generic Other]

9. I spent 8 years defending the Clintons

I had no choice. Now I have a choice. I don't choose to back a candidate who gives so much ammo to the rightwing while constantly trying to pacify them.

I would rather go forward not return to that sorry past. I don't have the stomach for it. No more enablers for me. Those who back centrist policies will not win my support. Ever again. And lying to me about your liberal credentials in order to win, then doing as you please once in office is getting old.

[DURHAM D]

10. Please see Post 8 below. nt

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. Seriously? It does not matter who the democratic candidate is...

The republican's lies and distortions will be shouted from the rooftops. The "anchors" around Clinton's neck are pretend.

[Generic Other]

11. Not all of them

They are past history waiting to be dredged up again so as to give the right reason to obfuscate and create gridlock, preventing government from working for another 8 years.

Democrats who choose to be corporatist candidates also make me extremely nervous. As do double talkers. I am very worried about 2016. Very worried.

[Evergreen Emerald]

14. You only need to look at Obama's treatment to see that is does not matter...

...what the history is. Obama's treatment now, is how the Clintons were treated in their day. Most of Clinton's "history" is made up crap that has been stated over and over until people--even apparently liberals--believe it.

It is a shame that they can win through a campaign of smear.

Regarding obfuscating, a friend told me that we should elect a republican so that they stop obfuscating and get things done. Because, of course any democrat in the white house will be subject to that very obstructionism. The republicans do not want anything positive to come from a democratic presidency. So, the very ideals that they held under a republican administration--they refuse to acknowledge. They are willing to let the country go down in flames under a democratic presidency.

Rather than let them win through obfuscation, we should vote the house and senate out of office.

[Generic Other]

29. The racism levelled at Obama is unprecedented

Will Hillary face anything remotely like this for being a woman? Hard to imagine. But for being a Clinton? Easy to remember that she did face the fire. At the time I thought she was the most vilified political figure ever -- and she was the spouse! The more I think about the way she was treated, the angrier it makes me. But it also makes me nervous.

Honestly, I wish I could feel the level of trust I once felt for elected officials running my government. After years of listening to Republicans lie, I am painfully aware of what liars sound like. And what lies smell like.

I need to believe the ones I vote for will not do this. That's all.

[truebrit71]

13. Monica Lewinsky was pretend?

Interesting...

[Evergreen Emerald]

15. Really?

You think it is appropriate to hang Lewinsky around Ms. Clinton's neck?

[truebrit71]

17. I thought 'Clinton's' meant both of them...

...and no....Hillary is not/should not be held responsible for her husband's wondering eye...

[Beacool]

21. I assume that you are a man. I can't imagine a woman making that remark.

That is one asinine reason for a woman not to run for office. No wife is responsible for her husband's actions.

[BeyondGeography]

12. 20-year-old trash won't have that kind of shelf life

I had exactly the same concerns in 2008; it was too early for me to fight again on the Clintons' behalf so I chose Obama, who I preferred anyway. But, along the way, I gained a healthy dose of respect for Hillary's abilities as a campaigner and as a debater. Her organization was for shit, which did not reflect well on her at all, but her strength as a candidate was undeniable. Obama took the black vote away from her and I don't see that happening again (Warren would lose, e.g., by a lot) so get ready for Hillary if she runs. The gap between the two parties is vast and she's a good Democrat so it shouldn't be that hard.

[Generic Other]

19. That feeling you describe that I am having

is not even something I blame on the Clintons as much as I do on the GOP. I am sick of fighting these kinds of battles for them though.

Still, I guess I will have to try harder to mask my lack of enthusiasm for Hilary. Maybe she'll prove me wrong.

[Beacool]

20. Such candidate doesn't exist.

Everyone has a past.

[DonViejo]

5. She has a column on this topic published in today's...

The Daily Beast:

Don’t Run for President, Hillary. Become a ‘Post-President’ Instead

The political world and her most fervent fans may be exercised about a presidential bid. But she should forget it. If she wins, it's too much stress for too little return.

I know as much as anyone how much her most fervent supporters want Hillary Clinton to run for president. On the opening night of the Women in the World Summit the mere mention of the possibility had the audience on their feet. The fan base is there, and constituencies beyond it.

But should she do it? Would the bravest and best decision be for her to skip it? In the 2008 campaign the chronic negativity of the ladies and gentlemen of the press was relentless, and the gouging of Hillary was wholly unrelated to either her record or her behavior. It was just that her story had gotten old. It required new angles, or, heaven forbid, new facts, to make it interesting—whereas Barack Obama was a story that wrote itself.

The first black president was a hotter plot line than the first woman president. Bad luck for Hillary. Obama stole her exceptionalism, leaving the press only with the hair, the alleged cackling laugh, and the over-familiar back-story, which meant dogging Bill around, hoping he’d lose it once in a while. (He obliged.)

I joined the Hillary bus for a Newsweek story in 2008 I was fascinated how little attention in their copy the traveling reporters actually paid to anything she said when she got out. They were too busy filing recaps of blogs by commentators who weren’t there. Suddenly there would be media uproar about some killer soundbite from Hillary that someone had gotten traction for that in context wasn’t controversial at all. Remember that shit-storm when she said MLK’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/02/don-t-run-for-president-hillary-become-a-post-president-instead.html

[hlthe2b]

7. She may have had an agenda saying that, but surely it is probably true of most candidates..

Running for President is a pretty horrendous process.

[greatlaurel]

16. No one except the Villagers cares what Tina Brown says about anything.

Just do the exact opposite of Tina Brown says and you will be OK. Tina Brown and Nino Scalia need to go to the same retirement home before they embarrass themselves further.

[Iggo]

22. Who?

[wheniwasincongress]

23. This is the same Tina Brown

who on Bill Maher said that Eben Alexander's book about his alleged adventure of visiting heaven was the story that out of the hunreds of stories she sees, really moved her.

3:30

[MADem]

26. Tina, go back to England and run a few more magazines into the ground!

She is so "lowest common denominator."

[Prophet 451]

28. I actually think that's true of ANY presidential nominee

Given the lack of privacy, the scandal mongering, the stress, long hours, etc, I wonder why anyone would willingly subject themselves to that circus.