Militiamen And Oath Keepers Drew Weapons, Threatened To Kill Each Other

[appleannie1]

The situation at the Bundy ranch, where armed militiamen and “Patriots” are camped out, has deteriorated so badly that competing factions apparently drew weapons on one another during heated arguments.

We wrote on Wednesday about how tensions flared when a paranoid rumor of an imminent drone strike on the encampment began circulating. The team that primarily circulated the drone-strike rumor – Stewart Rhodes’ Oath Keepers – also began advising people to pull out, which sparked the wrath of militiamen.

Those militiamen voted to oust the Oath Keepers, and a couple even spoke of shooting Rhodes and his men in the back, which they deemed the proper battlefield treatment of “deserters”.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/militiamen-and-oath-keepers-drew-weapons

Just the kind of asshats we need running the country. Maybe we will be lucky and they will take each other out. End of problem.

[FSogol]

1. I'm just glad no one popped a plastic bag at that moment.

[JJChambers]

6. FTFY

I'm just sad no one popped a plastic bag at that moment.

[freshwest]

101. That would have ended this two bit circus pretty quick, huh... n/t

[Enthusiast]

121. Me too.

[ronnie624]

11. Not funny.

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OK, maybe a little bit funny.

[Squinch]

73. Yeah. Pretty funny.

Those guys are going to shoot somebody. Best that it be each other.

[NaturalHigh]

76. Kind of what I was thinking too.

One car backfire and they wouldn't be able to figure out who shot whom.

[eppur_se_muova]

86. I was thinking a string of firecrackers, but ... yeah.

Have to save that for the NRA convention.

[freshwest]

99. Like the way you think! My hopes were dashed in Tampa in 2012. A circular firing squad assembled...

But Darwin failed us...

[surrealAmerican]

2. That was inevitable.

This is just what happens when you gather a bunch of paranoid, heavily armed people.

[calimary]

62. Gee, you think maybe they'll do us all a favor and ...

Oh never mind.

[freshwest]

103. Oh, I would never mind... YES, I am EVIL. n/t

[calimary]

129. Me too, freshwest!

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. There's nothing to lose if they declare war on each other.

Actually, Pay Per View would be a good option.

[defacto7]

109. First time I have ever wanted to watch

a reality show. If this is where they are going... I'd watch the playoffs of the stupids vs. the other stupids. Last man standing gets a hot dog.

[hobbit709]

4. Sounds like a win-win to me.

If they want to take each other out, no great loss.

[tosh]

52. I know!

Bummer that it stopped at that.

[WhiteTara]

5. And all this in under a month.

Can you imagine what it will be like when it warms up in the desert? Dehydration, hallucinations, crazy people with guns all says to me, they will kill a few of each other and then want the government to come in and clean it all up.

But, if their government checks stopped, they couldn't afford to stay and fight those drone strikes that aren't coming.

[freshwest]

135. LOL at the attack that's not coming! This fiasco is proving so much CT hysteria to be bogus. n/t

[drm604]

7. My concern is that they may end up shooting one or more innocents.

They're stopping people and demanding proof that they live in the area. What will they do if someone refuses to provide proof? What will they do if they stop someone who isn't a local?

These assclowns are acting like they're law enforcement.

These out of staters are demanding that locals prove that they live there! That says everything that's needs to be said about their real attitude towards the freedoms they claim to love so much.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

8. Yep

[appleannie1]

66. That is what I have been worried about. I have also wondered how long it would

take for one of them to accidentally shoot one of their own. When that many trigger happy lunatics walk around loaded to the hilt, it is an accident waiting to happen.

[ManiacJoe]

111. They are not actually stopping the locals.

That has been misreported from the beginning of the rumor. The press did not help any in getting the story right.

[AlbertCat]

116. They are not actually stopping the locals.

Oh well then.... I'm sure the locals don't mind them there then.

[951-Riverside]

9. Great article but they should have included two very important videos

Mooch Militia Member: Turn it off
Cameraman: It's a public road
Mooch Militia Member: I don't care what you're on

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Starting at 2:20 (They're referring to the Oafkeepers).

Insurgent wearing the black shirt: "This man and The people that obeyed that order have violated my personal creed."

Other insurgent: "Absolutely"

Insurgent wearing the black shirt: "You don't fucking walk in and say I'm sorry and you're back in brother, you can walk in and say you're sorry and you're lucky that you're not getting shot in the back because that's what happens to deserters on the battlefield"

Other insurgents: "Amen brother, amen"

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And maybe these photos

Checkpoint for citizens?
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Source: ericoverton.com

FEMA Supplies?
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Source: Twitter

[barbtries]

10. i don't know how this shit ends.

hopefully they pack up their shit and leave. but that's just chilling; these people are not in their right mind.

[truebluegreen]

51. If nothing else, summer will happen

and they'll leave. After all, they are not being paid, (except for disability probably) and summer in southern Nevada is brutal even to crazy people.

[barbtries]

61. yes, i think you're right

they'll probably just fade away

[AlbertCat]

118. they'll probably just fade away

And then these seditionists can be arrested at home!

[adieu]

69. Summers in the desert

is how we got Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Mormonism...

[defacto7]

110. DId those come from Nevada too?

[Babel_17]

67. Thanks!

Great framing!

[roguevalley]

97. you know that none of those ass hats are veterens

[tblue37]

131. All of the Oathkeepers are vets--apparently that is a prerequisite for

being allowed to join.

[roguevalley]

132. strange esprit d corps

[pinboy3niner]

133. It's also current and former police/fire/EMT/other first responders, not just military

And they have associate memberships open to anyone.

[freshwest]

106. Thanks for the new video and pic. They have the advantage. If the government does ANYTHING

A percentage of the public will yell POLICE STATE!!!

But the same ones don't mind having PARAMILITARIES interfering with citizens, with NO RULES AT ALL.

They are a criminal gang, but no one dares say that because they have MONEY and they are WHITE.

[eShirl]

12. I don't know how the uninvolved locals manage to get to sleep at night.

[Hekate]

27. Must be terrifying for them. They're being stopped at "checkpoints" now.

If it were only the idiot militia and the moocher rancher at risk, I'd say "Fire at will." Unfortunately, a lot of innocent bystanders are in peril.

[Paladin]

13. "Well regulated militia" my ass........

[Baitball Blogger]

14. We are seeing the real challenge we'll face when the apocalypse finally hits us.

The zombies will be the least of our problems.

[ThoughtCriminal]

18. My money is on the zombies

But if they really need brains to keep moving, they would starve on the Bundy ranch.

[StarryNite]

15. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

[Brother Buzz]

16. For shits and giggles, my model airplane club is planning a flyover....

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Just as soon as we get all our weeds whacked, we'll stick the engines in and go...

[FSogol]

21. LOL. Remember to paint it black and add some UN and OFA stickers!

[Brother Buzz]

22. Done

But we're still entertaining Louie's laser shark/flying tiger look

[sarisataka]

32. Go with the nose art

It has always been the coolest design from the P-40s to A-10s

[Brother Buzz]

35. Louie is really liking that warthog look

[sarisataka]

37. I like that

It is very similar to our unit logo when I was with the MPs, "Warpigs"

[freshwest]

107. My dad sent a picture back from the Pacific during WW2. My sister lost the thing...

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But it had a woman with a huge bosom painted on the nose, looked like she was lying down on her stomach and smiling at...

Well, someone. The guys were pretending they were holding it up. No kidding, they took turns, getting their picture taken, and my dad smiled angelically. Just rolled my eyes, you gotta love 'em...

I can't quite figure the shark out. Is the shark's lower jaw added on for effect or a real part of the plane? Are those missiles inside the jaw?

[JohnnyRingo]

124. WWII "bomber art" is a true American art genre.

Fighter planes were often painted too, and the art form was carried over to the crew's leather flight jackets as well. It usually involved one guy in the unit who could make a tidy sum with a paint brush and a talented hand as there would be many planes in a squadron.

The unique art form often emulated the famous Vargas girls of that era. Actual nudity was frowned upon by visiting high level officers, and there are stories where the crew would use water colors to temporarily paint a bikini on the girl. It was a big morale thing. Too bad someone lost that pic, I'd like to have seen it. People have published colorful coffee table art books on the subject.

In the warthog pic, that's a contemporary plane, the A10 "Warthog". That protrusion from the warthog's mouth is a large gatling gun with electrically rotating cannon barrels. It fires armor piercing ammo and is so big it lies under the pilot's seat. Since it's like seven rapid fire machine guns in one, it can unload an amazing amount of lead in a very short period of time. Also unofficially nicknamed "The Flying Can Opener", it's primarily used as an anti-tank weapon.

[Brother Buzz]

137. Since it's like seven rapid fire machine guns in one, it can unload an amazing amount of lead? Lead?

Lead is so yesterday. The GAU-8 on the A-10 employs depleted uranium for a bigger bang. I'm just saying

[DirkGently]

125. Air intake. No missiles. n/t

[sarisataka]

128. The shark on the P 40

Encompasses the air intake below the prop. Though it was obsolescent at the start of WW2 it was a rugged plane that served well for several years. Most notably it was used in China by the Flying Tigers

The color picture is an A10, nicknamed the warthog. The GAU8 cannon is a weapon from hell that destroys tanks with one burst. It too is known as a tough plane that has come back missing key parts- Like wings or a tail. I can testify as a ground pounder that when you are pinned down by armor there is no better sight than a pair of those hogs coming in at about 50 feet

[BrotherIvan]

25. BRILLIANT!

Please keep us updated! Can you put an inexpensive camera on it? I would love to see the bugs scatter when they catch site of your "drone".

You win the internet today

[chrisstopher]

26. Oh, Hell yeah!

Just don't forget to strap a video cam on it.

[Maraya1969]

29. Oh please have someone near there with camera ready.

That would be so hysterical.

[Aldo Leopold]

45. Haha, awesome!

[Major Nikon]

90. Niiiice

I'm taking my real plane out to California next month from Texas. I could easily take a detour and do some low passes over the ranch at about 1000' or so, but I'm not sure one of those inbred dipshits wouldn't take a shot at me.

[Brother Buzz]

91. You got a smoke generator?

A stream of mystery vapors trailing from a plane flying overhead at, say, 3000 ft, just might get their undies in a bunch.

[Major Nikon]

94. No smoke generator

[ThoughtCriminal]

17. Pssst... "The U.N./F.B.I. infiltrator is wearing a wire."

"Pass it on..."

[DirkGently]

19. They're making a great argument for a strong, centralized government.

At the root, these people want to re-argue the Civil War. Local control, local rules, white landowning cultural supremacy.

Because guns.

I hope they continue to gather out there. And sit. And stew. And start hyperventilating about drones and infiltrators and their imaginary "creed."

Not hoping for anyone to get shot. But the longer they stay out there playing out the fantasy of an America run by ad hoc committees of rural whites in boonie hats and military surplus gear, the clearer a picture everyone will get of exactly what new / old gun religion is selling.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

46. truly.

[Shankapotomus]

20. Makes perfect sense

In fact I'm sure many predicted such outcomes. How are people so unwilling to get along with others (who are only slightly different) beyond their group, going to get along with themselves? It's almost a mathematical certainty they will fragment into smaller and smaller groups. Goofballs.

[ronnie624]

23. My neighbor stands behind these people 100%.

I don't know why I'm friendly with him. I guess because he loves animals so much, and I've never heard him spew any racist bile. He would die for his cats, and I think anyone who can express so much love for any creature, can't be all bad. He uses disposable cardboard flats as litter boxes, and since I work in a capacity in which I can acquire them, I save them for him. The last time politics was even obliquely broach (I was simply correcting his factual inaccuracies about the ACA) , he said I wasn't even an American. "But I was born in Paducah Kentucky", I said "want to see my birth certificate?". I didn't see him for more than two weeks. He was back, however, as soon as he needed more flats, which I had continued to save. "No more politics", he said, which is to his benefit, because I can twist him into a pretzel, every time.

[Timez Squarez]

31. Make it a condition for him.

That he stops listening to Faux/hate radio and listen to something more rational before he gets those flats..

It's only fair that you are doing this for him..

[ronnie624]

36. We've discussed that before.

He thinks FOX is the ONLY source for news and info. He becomes very angry at hearing opposing political views, so I usually steer clear of politics.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

54. Imagine a world where FOX "News" is no longer there....

[deafskeptic]

24. As long as no innocents get caught in the x-fire... n/t

[arcane1]

28. I predicted earlier this week that they will either get bored or get shot.

"Get shot" is starting to look more and more likely. And it will likely be an accident, too. An inevitable outcome of all the gun-waving and bravado.


And I'm going to stock up on popcorn, and hope I don't choke on it while I'm laughing

[superpatriotman]

30. Payne is a g-man

There's no other explanation for that kind of false bravado and fascist behavior - it seems rehearsed.

[Jesus Malverde]

34. Half the people in the militia movement are informants

Famously the head of "Elohim City" Timothy McVeys home base, was an informant.

[A Simple Game]

43. I don't want to start any rumors, but...

I heard that it is all a conspiracy to get the militia people all in one place so they can round them up. The kicker is that Bundy is the special FBI agent in charge of the ruse.

Swear to god. Yes, the christian one!

[Thinkingabout]

78. It would be a good idea to check to see how many are on disability or who is

Working for the Koch brothers. If they are good to camp out for a couple of weeks they are able to work. Cut their disability and charge they with fraud.

[petronius]

88. I've got a friend who's pretty high up in DoD, and what I hear is

that the drone strike wasn't cancelled, it was just postponed. Word is that they've identified so many people who've been clicking on the pro-Bundy websites and FB pages that they had to prep a couple of additional 'FEMA'-camps for the round-ups that are planned to be simultaneous with the drone mission...

[A Simple Game]

89. Oh great! Now you've warned the one's that aren't already trapped in the circle. n/t

[Hekate]

112. I like that rumor. Can you pass it along to those yahoos? nt

[Gman]

57. I beg your pardon!

[spanone]

33. what are these morons still doing down there? don't any of these people have jobs?

[socialist_n_TN]

38. Well, we know that SOME are cashing government checks.....

I would almost be willing to bet that MOST are doing the same thing.

[Aldo Leopold]

39. Finally, a sensible argument for guns.

[vlakitti]

41. YaY! Mean!

[heaven05]

40. GOOD!!!

the sooner they kill each other off, the better it will be for all of us.

[dionysus]

42. "intel", "CP", "deploy", "the battlefield"... just a bunch of clowns playing soldier...

[Aldo Leopold]

47. Seems that way, doesn't it. They love the lingo.

[UTUSN]

44. R#22 for bwah-ha-HAH and trying not to get myself a Demerit here - I'm *thinking* I'm THINKING!1 n/t

[CanonRay]

48. Throw a fence around the whole thing

and just call it an asylum. Eventually, they will all kill each other.

[snort]

49. By the end of June, they'll be gone.

It'll be 110. Only idiots and nut cases would camp in such heat.


Maybe the end of July.

[Blue Owl]

50. Circular firing squad/jerk session

n/t

[Turbineguy]

53. I'd prefer they came to their senses.

It might be interesting to find out who is supporting them financially.

[noiretextatique]

64. how about koch?

I think they'd prefer Coke about now.

[Turbineguy]

77. I don't know if this constitutes

"armed insurrection" but if so, those supporting it would be dragged in too.

[freshwest]

108. Note the timing. Immediately after Reid's call-out of the GOP Koch gets air time. Coincidence? Nah.

Then a solid week of all out all over the television good and bad, it's air time...

And no one remembers the Koches and the FNN, Rush, Beck, Oathkeeper, Teaper, Libertarian funding stories.

Mission accomplished,and the national mind forgets the Koches and the RWNJ scandals. Look, shiny!

[Gman]

55. Look at the bright side

At least all the unstable MF'ers are in one isolated place in the desert and away from everybody else.

[RKP5637]

56. Someone needs to stand on a hill or something at night concealed and point a bunch of

red lasers around, that'll get them started in a major rowel thinking the other guy is targeting them!

[intaglio]

58. How about declaring the Bundy Ranch part of Mexico?

And building that fence the militia goons love all the way round it

[malaise]

59. Come on morons

Action not a bag of mouth. Just do it!

[eShirl]

75. a bag of mouth!

love it

[malaise]

79. Stole it from a local song

[Ed Suspicious]

60. We can hope.

[hrmjustin]

85. Charming as always.

[ZombieHorde]

65. Hopefully they won't shoot anyone

and will disperse when the heat rises, as others have suggested.

[Babel_17]

68. K&R

This needs to be repeated and as featured news.

[alcibiades_mystery]

70. I hope these guys don't kill each other

That said, were they to suddenly start firing and all shot each other in the balls, I'd probably throw a party.

[GeorgeGist]

71. Where are the Republicans calling Obama weak ...

on domestic terrorism?

[Warpy]

72. I think this has been the hope of local law enforcement all along

They'll start blasting away at each other and either the Feds will be called back in or the local Sheriff and whoever he can deputize will sort out the survivors and have them carted off to jail.

Hotheaded fanatics with guns + privation = violence. It happens every single time. It's why the Wild West got rid of the guns in towns in the first place.

[Tom Ripley]

74. That's entertainment!

[Iggo]

80. I'm mad! Where's my gun?!?!

Gun-fuckers are a hoot.

[StarryNite]

93. LOL!

[Thinkingabout]

81. This may not end well, either they will shoot each other or they will leave before

Summer is over. I had heard if Bundy delivers his cattle to the sale the money will be seized and applied towards his grazing fees. To continue the BLM confrontation will cost tax payer dollars. Stop the cameras and interviews. Now he has his kids running to cause trouble also. The investigative agency should ignore their request for as long as Bundy has ignored his grazing bill.

[RoccoR5955]

82. I might just pay money to see that!

It would be good if they all killed one another, with not one standing, on either side!

[Kaleva]

83. I smell a hit reality tv show!

[HooptieWagon]

87. There already was.

A show about a family of survivalists building and stocking a bunker. The dude who played the head of household (yes, it was all staged and scripted) ended up here in St Pete after show was cancelled. Bought a big old house downtown, had grandiose plans for a B&B. Couldn't make payments after show was cancelled, house was repo'ed and auctioned off. Guy says hes going to start a MM dispensary now. Class A asshole, and I mean Class A.

[99Forever]

92. Promises, promises, promises.

I think they should get busy with more doing and less threatening. Lock and load, morans.

[toddwv]

95. Anybody got a nice big model airplane they can regularly fly over their encampment?

Do it mostly at night so they can hear the buzzing but can't see the aircraft.


Let them lose a few nights worth of sleep.

[bvar22]

96. Good.

Maybe Darwin will solve this problem for us.
I hate to think of these idiots & moochers reproducing.

[Kaleva]

98. Here's a link to a Facebook page

From the video:

"Nutbags in the camp running amok."

https://www.facebook.com/blaine.cooper2/posts/611396038956572?comment_id=611404088955767&offset=0&total_comments=22

[Warren DeMontague]

100. but they seem so calm!

[Skittles]

102. paranoid gun humpers in all their glory

[Nevernose]

104. They honestly BELIEVE the drone strike bullshit

Just check the comments on the Vegas news websites. It's not just paranoia: it's crazy served with an equal portion of Dumb.

[freshwest]

130. Plenty of 'Obama the blood thirsty dictator' comments, too? He keeps disappointing them. Enjoy:

Free floating paranoia (er, tumbleweeds). Best comment on KOS, IMO:

The US strategy makes sense, in that respect:

Bundies: We want to defend MURICA!


BLM: We're just trying to do our job.


Bundies: Just itchin' to shoot me a government agent!


BLM: Um...


Bundies: Gonna put the women and children up front so they get shot first on teevee!


BLM: You guys are crazy.


Bundies: You govment folk just try us!


BLM: Screw this, it's hot and we're not getting paid enough to deal with asylum escapees.

(They leave.)


Two weeks later...


Bundies: They're gonna come and attack us any day now.

Aaaaaany day now.


(tumbleweeds float by)


Aaaaaany day now.




by catwho on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:44:04 AM PDT
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024881669#post29

[Nevernose]

134. That's hilarious! (n/t)

[lpbk2713]

105. Are they selling tickets?

You don't see this kind of stupid very often.

[Hekate]

113. I'm starting to hope they try to camp out for the whole summer. In Nevada.

[armed_and_liberal]

114. Buy a $50 RC plane and some black spray paint

Can you imagine the froth these dumb-asses would be whipped into if you flew a flat-black radio controlled airplane over their heads? It is almost worth taking a couple days off from work to go out there to do it!

[MyNameGoesHere]

117. Now this is a situation where more guns are needed

I would gladly send them some.

[rafeh1]

119. send them a few kegs of beer

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And wait a few hours for the fireworks to start. It should cost under a $500

[MineralMan]

120. There Is No Honor among Morons.

And the folks there at Bunkerville are truly morons.

[Enthusiast]

122. I promised I wouldn't tell.

But I just can't keep a secret. Me and Snowden, you know. We're tight. But our lips aren't sealed. There is an actual drone strike planned. I won't say when, exactly.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

123. So this might end well after all.

[randys1]

126. Immature children like this might solve the problem and just kill each other

[mikeysnot]

127. it be nice if those

fucks ended this shit by circular firing squad...

?t=1m7s

a few less assholes in the world.

[LiberalElite]

136. I get it - BOTH sides

think that they're the "good guys with guns."