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GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,584 posts)
Sat May 3, 2014, 03:56 PM May 2014

Did you know that Stephen Colbert "fell flat" at the WH Correspondents dinner?

MSNBC is filling this hour about the dinner. The host said there's a danger about the

guest comedian falling flat and he used Colbert's appearance as an example.

WTF?

edit to add: This wasn't a random comment. It was deliberate and they had the clip ready to go.

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Did you know that Stephen Colbert "fell flat" at the WH Correspondents dinner? (Original Post) GreatCaesarsGhost May 2014 OP
They just refuse to acknowledge that anyone avebury May 2014 #1
SPIN. Pure and simple. n/t YvonneCa May 2014 #73
+1! Enthusiast May 2014 #83
He fell flat edhopper May 2014 #2
+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 May 2014 #6
Yeah.. they deemed Colbert flat as a Cha May 2014 #44
Agree! pacalo May 2014 #69
Plus one an entire shit load! Enthusiast May 2014 #84
What could Stephen do Politicalboi May 2014 #3
"Bush himself probably didn't get half of them." 3catwoman3 May 2014 #12
Judging by the way Bush looked... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #61
That was from the drinks, I'm sure Demeter May 2014 #63
No, American... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #67
I don't know which enraged Chimpy more . . . hatrack May 2014 #86
You know he wanted to. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #87
It was comical watching audience members trying not to laugh. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #65
As in flat out awesome Blue Owl May 2014 #4
Definitely! Cha May 2014 #45
Guess that's why the NYT had to do a retake on their editorial the day after malaise May 2014 #5
It was a tribute to all real journalists, and a harsh criticism to lostincalifornia May 2014 #25
Wasn't there also the belief fredamae May 2014 #7
we were howling and clapping over here eShirl May 2014 #8
Of course the crowd hated it. Colbert cut them to ribbons. pa28 May 2014 #9
Colbert rendered one of the greatest comedic performances in history at that years dinner. stevenleser May 2014 #10
I didn't get his name. GreatCaesarsGhost May 2014 #14
I don't even have a tv but I'd be interested to know too.. who said that?.. thanks GCG. Cha May 2014 #46
The host's name is Craig Melvin. GreatCaesarsGhost May 2014 #72
Thanks never heard of him.. but, he's obviously obtuse and a tool. Cha May 2014 #77
That performance will go down in history for its hilarity and courageousness. Squinch May 2014 #11
Courageous ness yes, it was never meant to be funny, but truth to power and an indictment of lostincalifornia May 2014 #21
But that was why it was so hilarious. His use of his persona to make such absurd Squinch May 2014 #26
this! eShirl May 2014 #32
All that is true, but for all the death and pain they caused so many people I could not find it lostincalifornia May 2014 #34
The best part was the ironic CNN poll about some of the jokes hootinholler May 2014 #82
Some people are just too dense to get it Warpy May 2014 #13
Did he look like he'd seen a ghost? Cha May 2014 #47
No, his face looked like a clenched fist Warpy May 2014 #51
Yeah, he "Fell flat" because the attendees expected him to be a conservative arcane1 May 2014 #15
yeah, they thought he really was the conservative asshat he plays 2pooped2pop May 2014 #28
That depends on who the audience was. SolutionisSolidarity May 2014 #16
who was the host? Enrique May 2014 #17
"In fact, this administration is soaring; if anything, it's like rearranging the deck chairs on . . John1956PA May 2014 #18
Do you mind sharing who that columnist was? lostincalifornia May 2014 #20
Richard Cohen of the WP. The controversy over his column was a big deal at the time. John1956PA May 2014 #27
Thanks, and I agree with your assessment lostincalifornia May 2014 #31
Cohen had been unreadable for some time. mattclearing May 2014 #60
I recall him taking turns defending and criticizing both parties. John1956PA May 2014 #66
Yeah, another black mark. mattclearing May 2014 #75
Because the disgraced media were just as bad as bush and company in not only the run up to the war, lostincalifornia May 2014 #19
Colbert 2006 was the best performance. Dawson Leery May 2014 #91
Colbert absolutely kiiled that night stagmeyer May 2014 #22
Rich Little really had them rolling in the aisles nyquil_man May 2014 #23
Colbert is a genius, what dumbass said that he fell flat? n/t Whisp May 2014 #24
He skewered the right so badly they were stunned WhiteTara May 2014 #29
To paraphrase Jon Stewart's reaction- missingthebigdog May 2014 #30
Colbert did a funny climate change joke, too. lob1 May 2014 #33
Oh wow! A climate change dig in there, too.. thanks lob. Cha May 2014 #49
Clearly MSNBC's ratings are soaring while Colbert's career is in the toilet, right? Rowdyboy May 2014 #35
I think most of it was that he showed the white house press corps for what they were el_bryanto May 2014 #36
LOL! That was one of the best satiric routines, ever. winter is coming May 2014 #37
Yes, I remember that being said by the media at the time. Crunchy Frog May 2014 #38
He was a game changer KT2000 May 2014 #39
Colbert's style is too cerebral for some people. lpbk2713 May 2014 #40
Within the room's confines, he definitely fell flat. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #41
Of course the audience cringed TroglodyteScholar May 2014 #54
It was unbelievable MannyGoldstein May 2014 #64
Exactly. deutsey May 2014 #71
When you remind courtiers that they are, in fact, courtiers... JHB May 2014 #42
Link to video: Ptah May 2014 #43
thanks for posting. LittleGirl May 2014 #55
Thanks. I never did see this in its entirety. Flat? Hardly Enthusiast May 2014 #85
1st time I've seen this. Between 7:30 and 8:00 W looks like he's ready to murder magical thyme May 2014 #88
He actually caused some of the Loyal Bushies to walk out. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #48
It was that "flat".. Cha May 2014 #50
that performance turned myself and many others G_j May 2014 #52
He most certainly did fall flat madamesilverspurs May 2014 #53
If I recall right NobodyHere May 2014 #56
I think Colbert was BRAVE. I really appreciate his work there and I am glad he has a nicd new CTyankee May 2014 #57
I agree 90-percent May 2014 #74
It was the only time that embarrassing court gathering was actually news. Marr May 2014 #58
Stephan was great Gothmog May 2014 #59
CSPAN is covering the event. No Talking Heads, just footage. No need to listen to halfassed MADem May 2014 #62
Yes. He did. Leave rewritting history to the bad guys. cthulu2016 May 2014 #68
Is this the same WH correspondents who fawned over the photo of GWBI naked in the Baitball Blogger May 2014 #70
I like Colbert but I never thought he was that funny. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #76
Don Imus sabbat hunter May 2014 #78
They said the same on CNN. I think he went way too far, even though doc03 May 2014 #79
His was my favorite. boston bean May 2014 #80
I have/had a copy of that. It was actually quite funny. geckosfeet May 2014 #81
i thought he did a great job rudolph the red May 2014 #89
And therein lies the genius... lame54 May 2014 #90

avebury

(10,952 posts)
1. They just refuse to acknowledge that anyone
Sat May 3, 2014, 03:58 PM
May 2014

who would call out W could be zinging the target every time. Colbert was brillent that night.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
2. He fell flat
Sat May 3, 2014, 03:58 PM
May 2014

to the sycophantic press corp at the dinner who were up Bush's ass.
To all else who saw it, he was hysterical.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
44. Yeah.. they deemed Colbert flat as a
Sat May 3, 2014, 06:16 PM
May 2014

pancake But, anyone who was capable of critical thinking thought he was superb!

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. What could Stephen do
Sat May 3, 2014, 03:58 PM
May 2014

He was hosting an event that most people who were there, liked Bush and didn't get the jokes. Bush himself probably didn't get half of them.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
12. "Bush himself probably didn't get half of them."
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:14 PM
May 2014

I'm not much of a betting woman, but I'd lay a few bills on that one without any hesitation.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
86. I don't know which enraged Chimpy more . . .
Sun May 4, 2014, 02:33 PM
May 2014

Colbert, or his own absolute inability to get up out of his chair and punch Colbert.

malaise

(268,968 posts)
5. Guess that's why the NYT had to do a retake on their editorial the day after
Sat May 3, 2014, 03:59 PM
May 2014

Only ReTHUGs and their media whores and hacks thought he fell flat.

He was fugging brilliant - thing is they all missed that his character on his program is satire and it blew up in their ignorant faces right at the dinner. It was one fabulous night that I'll never forget. It was also a great tribute to Helen Thomas.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
7. Wasn't there also the belief
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:10 PM
May 2014

back then, that Colbert was a "gop conservative"?
Imo Colbert was perfect that night.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
9. Of course the crowd hated it. Colbert cut them to ribbons.
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:13 PM
May 2014

Reaction shots from the audience reminded me of that scene from The Producers during "Springtime for Hitler". It was magic.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
10. Colbert rendered one of the greatest comedic performances in history at that years dinner.
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:13 PM
May 2014

Which host said that?

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,584 posts)
14. I didn't get his name.
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:18 PM
May 2014

He is an African-American with really short hair but he did say he'd be back on at 9pm.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
21. Courageous ness yes, it was never meant to be funny, but truth to power and an indictment of
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:29 PM
May 2014

Most of the Washington jet set and administration

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
26. But that was why it was so hilarious. His use of his persona to make such absurd
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:32 PM
May 2014

comments to the faces of those who made those comments in all seriousness. Then their red faced fury...

It was genius on about twelve levels.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
34. All that is true, but for all the death and pain they caused so many people I could not find it
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:47 PM
May 2014

hilarious. However, It made me feel a sense of satisfaction that "finally", someone is throwing the garbage and hurt right into the face of these animals.

but I understand the irony, because it was this same group that was too stupid to realize the Stephen's character was not a conservative comedian, but a comedian mocking their hypocrisy

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
13. Some people are just too dense to get it
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:18 PM
May 2014

I will always treasure the look on Donald Trump's face as he exited that venue.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
15. Yeah, he "Fell flat" because the attendees expected him to be a conservative
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014

And the jokes hit waaaay too close to home for those assholes

16. That depends on who the audience was.
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014

If the audience was the presstitutes in attendance, then yes, his routine did not win them very happy. If his audience was people at home who are sick of the back-slapping elites and their annual jokefest, he knocked it out of the park. I guess we can see what camp this particular host falls into.

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
18. "In fact, this administration is soaring; if anything, it's like rearranging the deck chairs on . .
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:21 PM
May 2014
. . . the Hindenburg."


I laughed out loud when I read that line of Colbert, delivered at the dinner.

A certain national columnist holds himself out as a purveyor of humor. After Colbert's speech, the columnist wrote that the line was "lame" and that Colbert was not humorous. In response, the columnist received a food of emails (including one of mine) from Colbert defenders. A week later, the columnist wrote that he deleted the emails without reading them. I never read his column after that.

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
27. Richard Cohen of the WP. The controversy over his column was a big deal at the time.
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:34 PM
May 2014

You can easily find the column. It was embarrassing with regard to his boasting that he is a master of humor and with regard to his missing the wit in Colbert's line about the Hindenburg.

mattclearing

(10,091 posts)
60. Cohen had been unreadable for some time.
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:26 PM
May 2014

Just curmudgeonly nonsense, devoid of any kind of intellectual honesty. You could tell something was going to be ill-considered and wrong by the presence of his by-line.

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
66. I recall him taking turns defending and criticizing both parties.
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:47 PM
May 2014

It was his idea of showing he was fair.

One observer wrote that Cohen is a populist. I am not sure what that term means. Regardless, I stopped reading Cohen's column, and stopped visiting the Washington Post website, after Cohen criticized Stephen Colbert's material. I may have sent an email to the Washington Post editor explaining my decision to stop visiting the site.

mattclearing

(10,091 posts)
75. Yeah, another black mark.
Sat May 3, 2014, 10:57 PM
May 2014

You know someone has no principles when they equate the two parties. It's an unintended shorthand for, "disregard my unconsidered opinion."

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
19. Because the disgraced media were just as bad as bush and company in not only the run up to the war,
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:24 PM
May 2014

but the free pass they gave to him

Colbert was extraordinary that night. No he wasn't funny, but hard, and honest, straight, and provided a mirror to most of those to look at in that room of themselves, and their direct or indirect responsibility for the death, destruction, and cost they contributed to

They could not handle the truth

What Colbert did was extremely brave that night

Remember the bush administration had ruined a lot of people with rovian tactics, and the press only too willingly obliged

stagmeyer

(7 posts)
22. Colbert absolutely kiiled that night
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:30 PM
May 2014

"I stand by this man. I stand by this man because he stands for things. Not only for things, he stands on things. Things like aircraft carriers and rubble and recently flooded city squares. And that sends a strong message: that no matter what happens to America, she will always rebound -- with the most powerfully staged photo ops in the world.

Now, there may be an energy crisis. This president has a very forward-thinking energy policy. Why do you think he's down on the ranch cutting that brush all the time? He's trying to create an alternative energy source. By 2008 we will have a mesquite-powered car!"

WhiteTara

(29,705 posts)
29. He skewered the right so badly they were stunned
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:36 PM
May 2014

but they all had to laugh. My favorite all time was when he flipped Scalia off! That was priceless. IIRC they thought he really was right wing on his Report. He was incredible and they are terrified because he'll be on every night of the week.

lob1

(3,820 posts)
33. Colbert did a funny climate change joke, too.
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:46 PM
May 2014

I'm paraphrasing, but he was talking about congress and how it moves at the speed of a glacier. Then he said, as if reflecting, "Glacier. Savor that word. People won't know what it means in 50 years."

I thought Colbert was hilarious and very brave.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
49. Oh wow! A climate change dig in there, too.. thanks lob.
Sat May 3, 2014, 06:24 PM
May 2014
"Glacier. Savor that word. People won't know what it means in 50 years."


"I thought Colbert was hilarious and very brave" I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
35. Clearly MSNBC's ratings are soaring while Colbert's career is in the toilet, right?
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:52 PM
May 2014

Sounds like sour grapes to me. I found him hilarious.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
36. I think most of it was that he showed the white house press corps for what they were
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:53 PM
May 2014

They were able to do cheap shots that don't go anywhere and they were able to fawning praise, and they were able to regurgitate press releases. When he got up and did substantive critique of the president, it showed them up for what they were - lazy and unprofessional.

So naturally it flopped with the press corps.

Bryant

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
37. LOL! That was one of the best satiric routines, ever.
Sat May 3, 2014, 05:22 PM
May 2014

I've re-watched it many times. It's fun to watch people shifting in their seats as Colbert repeatedly shows that the emperor has no clothes, all while staying in character.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
38. Yes, I remember that being said by the media at the time.
Sat May 3, 2014, 05:30 PM
May 2014

And I also remember him being absolutely brilliant and progressive viewers being thrilled.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
39. He was a game changer
Sat May 3, 2014, 05:36 PM
May 2014

There was a change in tone after that dinner. It was like he opened the window and let some fresh air in - and then others joined in. They wish it fell flat.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
40. Colbert's style is too cerebral for some people.
Sat May 3, 2014, 05:43 PM
May 2014




Apparently this includes the crowd at MSRNC.

His shtick isn't meant to generate yuks every thirty seconds.

And I thought he did pretty good when I saw it.


 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
41. Within the room's confines, he definitely fell flat.
Sat May 3, 2014, 05:44 PM
May 2014

The audience saw it as cringe humor, and they cringed. Not much laughter.

But the entire planet outside that room was laughing their asses off. My ass, it literally fell off. Fortunately I grabbed it back from the damned coyotes.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
54. Of course the audience cringed
Sat May 3, 2014, 06:59 PM
May 2014

They were the targets of his barbs.

I couldn't believe my eyes when that performance was taking place. Beautiful.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
64. It was unbelievable
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:35 PM
May 2014

I watched it live on CSPAN - when I heard that Colbert was doing that gig, my first reaction was "WTF are these people thinking? This won't go the way they're thinking, at all!". My second thought was "Holy #%^*, this will be one of the funniest events in history." And it was.

Wow.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
71. Exactly.
Sat May 3, 2014, 08:22 PM
May 2014

The fact it fell with such a thud among the chattering, sycophantic class means it was a huge hit among everyone in that small circle.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
42. When you remind courtiers that they are, in fact, courtiers...
Sat May 3, 2014, 05:57 PM
May 2014

...they are not amused in the manner to which they have become accustomed.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
85. Thanks. I never did see this in its entirety. Flat? Hardly
Sun May 4, 2014, 02:29 PM
May 2014

Fucking brilliant. Those people were laughing despite themselves. They knew Colbert was insulting the President but they laughed anyway. Bush was steaming.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
88. 1st time I've seen this. Between 7:30 and 8:00 W looks like he's ready to murder
Sun May 4, 2014, 03:04 PM
May 2014

sliced and dice. If it fell "flat" it's only because some people can't handle the truth.

madamesilverspurs

(15,801 posts)
53. He most certainly did fall flat
Sat May 3, 2014, 06:58 PM
May 2014

with all the people in that room. They were in shock, unaccustomed to that level of truth-telling delivered very publicly. And being on camera, there was no way for him to be immediately "Dixie Chicked". Brilliant. And in that crowd, damned brave.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
56. If I recall right
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:04 PM
May 2014

Colbert had tons of funny jokes. I'm talking about the dinner in the mid 2000s

However he looked very nervous,as if he thought there was a sniper aiming for his forehead the entire time. Like he was going to get shot for making fun of Bush. It certainly wasn't his best performance.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
57. I think Colbert was BRAVE. I really appreciate his work there and I am glad he has a nicd new
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:11 PM
May 2014

career in front of him!

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
74. I agree
Sat May 3, 2014, 10:04 PM
May 2014

Stephen was given a golden opportunity to speak truth to power and he did it with a courage along the lines of whats best about the ideals of the Founding fathers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002623922#post5

-90% Jimmy

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
58. It was the only time that embarrassing court gathering was actually news.
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:13 PM
May 2014

It was also the only time it was actually funny. I'm not at all surprised that the courtiers still don't get it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
62. CSPAN is covering the event. No Talking Heads, just footage. No need to listen to halfassed
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:28 PM
May 2014

opinions.

The Republicans HATED Colbert's performance. In that sense, from their perspective, he did fall flat.

That said, the "normal" people--like people who post here, were thrilled with his efforts that evening.

Where you stand depends on where you sit. That was the "Watch What You Say, Watch What You Do" era.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
68. Yes. He did. Leave rewritting history to the bad guys.
Sat May 3, 2014, 07:54 PM
May 2014

It was a very funny and edgy set he did, and it fell flat. The audience gaped at him like fish.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
70. Is this the same WH correspondents who fawned over the photo of GWBI naked in the
Sat May 3, 2014, 08:08 PM
May 2014

bathtub with all his kids? Or of the nekkid picture of young Jeb?

What is it with that Bush family and bathtubs?

sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
78. Don Imus
Sat May 3, 2014, 11:19 PM
May 2014

flopped when he did it during the Clinton administration. For a long time he poked fun at himself about it.

doc03

(35,328 posts)
79. They said the same on CNN. I think he went way too far, even though
Sat May 3, 2014, 11:21 PM
May 2014

I couldn't stand GW Bush I thought he was disrespectful of the office and made an ass of himself. I like Jon Stewart but can't tolerate Colbert, don't think he is funny at all.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
81. I have/had a copy of that. It was actually quite funny.
Sun May 4, 2014, 01:27 AM
May 2014

The bit with Helen Thomas was great.

I think it "fell flat" because because the room was full of republicans and he was ripping them a new one.

Colbert's Speech at the White House Correspondents Dinner

lame54

(35,287 posts)
90. And therein lies the genius...
Sun May 4, 2014, 03:15 PM
May 2014

It's easy for a comedian when the crowd is into it and dying laughing

But when the jokes are met with silence most stand-ups whither and die

Not Colbert - he kept going and skewering everybody in the room

That was one of the ballsiest things I've ever seen

On a side note - the word ballsiest didn't come up in spell check

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