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Initech

(100,068 posts)
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:41 PM May 2014

OK let's get one thing straight about this Monica Lewinsky Crap.

Yes it's slut shaming. Yes it's a shitty situation.

But let's not forget what it really is. BULLSHIT. Pure unaltered, straight from Bullshit Mountain, grade A , 100% cold filtered bullshit.

It's meant to distract us and keep us divided while the powers that be quietly nominate a puppet like Rand Paul who's a yes man and caters exclusively to the best interests of the corporate criminals. While we're fighting about events that happened 20 fucking years ago, the Republicans are getting ready for a sweep of the House and Senate this year and a landslide victory in 2016. It's an effort to discredit Hillary Clinton from running. That's all it is. The media, the corporate criminals, the Kochs, they want Rand Paul, and with full control, he'll be way more dangerous than any number of George or Jeb Bush's.

Is that what you want? Let's stop playing into the bullshit and get out there. Back to posting.

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OK let's get one thing straight about this Monica Lewinsky Crap. (Original Post) Initech May 2014 OP
Word. ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #1
How do you suggest we get out there? el_bryanto May 2014 #2
Good question. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #27
I agree, so let's stop starting threads about her and posting in them. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #3
fighting, really? oh, and 98.43% of the country doesn't care/give a shit snooper2 May 2014 #4
It's not just us. Initech May 2014 #5
I give it another 26 hours...there will be a tornado or a bridge collapse or shark attack snooper2 May 2014 #6
True that is a good point. Initech May 2014 #8
Sharknado!!! Mbrow May 2014 #25
Then ignore it. I would prefer the media would talk about Chained CPI and what it really means. sabrina 1 May 2014 #11
Well said. This Monica crap is diverting attention from other, much more important things. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #29
++ Tada. And it's just that simple. DirkGently May 2014 #35
well, then, let's bring out all of the bigot's and his father's hopemountain May 2014 #15
Nobody cared then libodem May 2014 #7
Nobody here, maybe. riqster May 2014 #10
But even back in the 90's libodem May 2014 #14
+1 million Louisiana1976 May 2014 #31
I expect you are correct about the majority. riqster May 2014 #37
Yep libodem May 2014 #41
the gop are scaert. they are going to throw out any shit hopemountain May 2014 #16
I agree and disagree. hamsterjill May 2014 #9
^^^^ yupyup nt hopemountain May 2014 #17
I'm waiting for the pugs to regurgitate Whitewater. n/t OnlinePoker May 2014 #23
when have they ever been afraid of beating something to death? PeaceNikki May 2014 #28
They aren't afraid. hamsterjill May 2014 #40
It's topics like this that remind me how DU skews old, cranky, and frankly more than a tad UPTIGHT. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #12
However, the reaction here and among other Democrats is part of what fuels this karynnj May 2014 #13
Every time they bring up Monica, dougg May 2014 #18
Benghazi!!! Phlem May 2014 #19
Before there was Benghazi, there was Blowghazi. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #44
Wonder how much TNNurse May 2014 #20
ML kardonb May 2014 #21
I don't think the big guys in the GOP will endorse Rand Paul... secondwind May 2014 #22
Monica Lewinsky Jimvanhise May 2014 #24
Monica Lewinsky is 40. JDPriestly May 2014 #26
Oh come on!!! Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #30
Shame on president Clinton, that slut-bag! Now lets move along. Ed Suspicious May 2014 #32
I think this could have used a different headline. jtuck004 May 2014 #33
Monica Who??? progressoid May 2014 #34
Nice! LisaLynne May 2014 #38
Ha ha ha!!! I love it! Initech May 2014 #43
I don't think this is a conspiracy to hurt Hillary Clinton's political fortunes. totodeinhere May 2014 #36
If it is, it's a stupid and misguided one ... LisaLynne May 2014 #39
yep libodem May 2014 #42
I'm tired of hearing about Lewinsky and no I'm not a diehard Clinton supporter 951-Riverside May 2014 #45
If this is so hurtful to Hillary Clinton then... LLD May 2014 #46
Can I take it further than you? nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #47

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. How do you suggest we get out there?
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:42 PM
May 2014

And does being upset about how this situation is discussed or handled preclude getting out there?

Bryant

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
4. fighting, really? oh, and 98.43% of the country doesn't care/give a shit
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:02 PM
May 2014

Are you saying dstract DU or the distract the population as a whole?


If DU isn't on it's toes Rand Paul will be in the White House! LOL

Initech

(100,068 posts)
5. It's not just us.
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:15 PM
May 2014

So CNN and MSNBC are touting Monica Lewinsky when it should never have been reopened in the first place. It was bullshit then, it's bullshit now.

Meanwhile the republicans are talking about a super majority in 2016 and Rand Paul was seen with Rupert Murdoch at the Kentucky Derby. Last thing we need is a repeat of 2000.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
6. I give it another 26 hours...there will be a tornado or a bridge collapse or shark attack
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014

Maybe they'll find that plane that is under the ocean...

Not like the mass media has a long attention span LOL

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. Then ignore it. I would prefer the media would talk about Chained CPI and what it really means.
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:48 PM
May 2014

I wish they would talk about the imminent threat to Net Neutrality.

I wish they would talk about the secret Trade Agreement.

I wish they would talk about the money we are spending on all of our foreign interventions.

Mostly I wish they would talk about stolen elections and War Criminals and Wall St criminals.

Among other things, like Money in Politics eg and how it has corrupted our system.

But they don't, because we have a Corporate Media. So I rarely watch them anymore.

Lewinsky is selling a book. Lots of people are interviewed by the Corporate Media when they have books to sell. That's what the Corporate Media does, it sells things and it sells propaganda that will make money for Corporations.

The media is supposed to report facts about important news to the public, but since deregulation of the media, that isn't going to happen. Clinton participated in deregulating the media. Had it not happened, we might be getting actual news instead of sensationalism.

But that is how it is now. Too bad we were busy trying to defend him from vicious right wing attacks re Lewinsky we might have been watching what was passing into legislation more closely.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
15. well, then, let's bring out all of the bigot's and his father's
Wed May 7, 2014, 05:00 PM
May 2014

bullshit and start waving it around.

i need to do some research - it's out there and i first saw it on here. my thanks to whomever posted it during the last presidential bids.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
10. Nobody here, maybe.
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:46 PM
May 2014

In the dark underbelly of the populace, there are loads of Foxians who are duly following their piper.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
14. But even back in the 90's
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:57 PM
May 2014

Most of the polls indicated most of the public just wanted to move on. So darn tiresome. I imagine the Koch.brothers or some influential person kept the impeachment business alive in the 24 hour news cycle while tearfully proclaiming that schoolchildren in America would all need an explanation of fellatio. Oh boo hoo.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
37. I expect you are correct about the majority.
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:54 PM
May 2014

Our problem is with the screeching loud minority, though.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
9. I agree and disagree.
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:45 PM
May 2014

I agree with you that it is total bullshit. There is no doubt about it. What happened between Monica and Bill was no one's business other than Monica, Bill and Hillary. They've dealt with it and moved on (Monica's just trying to make a buck now...)

But the fact that this is coming out NOW instead of when Hillary really starts campaigning...is brilliant! Because the fact that it is being beaten to death by the media right now will make it less attractive for the Repukes to use in the future.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
28. when have they ever been afraid of beating something to death?
Wed May 7, 2014, 06:11 PM
May 2014

Lewinsky round one
Vince Foster
Birth certificate
Benghazi
Chappaquiddick

Just to name a few

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
40. They aren't afraid.
Wed May 7, 2014, 11:14 PM
May 2014

But I'm with Lynn Cheney on this one (can't believe I'm even saying this). But Hillary may very well benefit by this being cussed and discussed now rather than on the campaign trail.

Yes, the media will bring up everything and beat it to death over and over and over. Fox will probably really try to convince voters that Hillary was born in Kenya. But the American public bores easily and the media is all about ratings when all is said and done.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. It's topics like this that remind me how DU skews old, cranky, and frankly more than a tad UPTIGHT.
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:53 PM
May 2014

Clenis outrage? In 2014? FUCK.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
13. However, the reaction here and among other Democrats is part of what fuels this
Wed May 7, 2014, 04:57 PM
May 2014

Everyone knows that Bill Clinton had a very sleazy inappropriate relationship and then lied about it under oath. They already had an impeachment and the Senate voted not to throw him out. It is over.

As there is nothing new, I doubt it changes the opinion of anyone about Bill Clinton -- let alone Hillary Clinton. It might be best if we just ignore it. The worst thing is to give anyone MORE oxygen on this by defending or excusing Bill Clinton. Why is it hard to say that he was an exceptional politician or a competent President AND that he behaved badly with an intern.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
21. ML
Wed May 7, 2014, 05:32 PM
May 2014

another scholar in the Sarah Palin school of " how to stay in the news and somehow make money into the bargain .

Jimvanhise

(301 posts)
24. Monica Lewinsky
Wed May 7, 2014, 05:41 PM
May 2014

Um, I really don't get her complaints. The only reason anyone ever found out about what she was doing was because she not only blabbed about it to her friends, she BRAGGED about it. One friend of hers at the time claimed that she referred to herself as "The President's cocksucker." She's the one who made it a story, one which blew up in her face. There's even an episode of Law & Order from the 90s which refers to someone having committed a "Lewinsky". Her father threatened to sue NBC but his anger was aimed in the wrong direction.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
26. Monica Lewinsky is 40.
Wed May 7, 2014, 06:10 PM
May 2014

She is quickly approaching middle age if not there already.

By publishing a book about herself, she is merely emphasizing that she hasn't accomplished anything out of the ordinary in her life, nothing that would make her cool and famous and sought after, not even just becoming wise. So now she is writing a book to try to extend the 15 seconds of fame she grabbed during the Clinton years.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
30. Oh come on!!!
Wed May 7, 2014, 06:15 PM
May 2014

Last edited Wed May 7, 2014, 09:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Thanks to her online porn was about BJs by "barely legal teens".

What's it going to be under Rand? The guy who wears a rug to hide the tinfoil?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
33. I think this could have used a different headline.
Wed May 7, 2014, 06:24 PM
May 2014

I really hope she didn't start her conversation with him that way.



I personally hope they both had fun, and it matters not.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
36. I don't think this is a conspiracy to hurt Hillary Clinton's political fortunes.
Wed May 7, 2014, 06:33 PM
May 2014

Monica Lewinski came forward because she is promoting her book. I think she needs the money. I don't blame her one bit.

Now having said that, will the Republicans try to exploit this? Of course they will. They try to exploit everything. We all know that. But that's not Lewinski's fault.

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
39. If it is, it's a stupid and misguided one ...
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:58 PM
May 2014

because if anybody is blameless here, it's Hillary Clinton. I mean, the people who would be less inclined to vote for her because they are reminded of this were never going to vote for her in the first place, you know?

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
45. I'm tired of hearing about Lewinsky and no I'm not a diehard Clinton supporter
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:18 AM
May 2014

I wish there was a way to filter any topics with "Monica" in it.

 

LLD

(136 posts)
46. If this is so hurtful to Hillary Clinton then...
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:49 PM
May 2014

Why didn't we see Lewinsky in 2008? I don't see anything. But that doesn't mean the media doesn't want to tell you what you should see.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
47. Can I take it further than you?
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:53 PM
May 2014

It is not just to keep us distracted and get somebody like Rand Paul nominated, let alone elected.

It is a distraction from this

http://www.whitehouse.gov/energy/climate-change

or this

http://nca2014.globalchange.gov/downloads

or this...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/image/president27sclimateactionplan.pdf

And this is the consequential policy news of the last 72 hours or so.

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