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Al Gore Explains The Real Motiviation Behind Republicans' Climate Change DenialThe Huffington Post | by Mollie Reilly
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/12/al-gore-republicans_n_5313028.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
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Former vice president Al Gore says he sees the true motivation behind these remarks: currying favor with Republican megadonors like Charles and David Koch.
Speaking at the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics on Monday, Gore noted that Republicans like John McCain and Mitt Romney had acknowledged and taken steps toward solving the issue before it became politicized by the right.
"I don't think it's particularly complicated why they have all cowed into abandoning that position," Gore said. "They will face primary opponents financed by the Koch Brothers, and others who are part of their group, if they even breathe the slightest breath of sympathy for the truth about climate science. It's not really that complicated."
Gore continued: "And of course, Sen. Paul is from a coal state, but even if he were not, anyone who wants to set his or her aspirations on the Republican nomination for the presidency in 2016 already knows that they can't possibly cross the Koch brothers and the others that are part of that group, the large carbon polluters and ideological anti-statists who are really terrified that the government will do anything new, so as Grover Norquist said famously years ago, they want to shrink the government to where it can be drowned in a bathtub."
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applegrove
(118,642 posts)1) true 2) will wake people up to their country being bought by people who don't care for them.
okaawhatever
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spanone
(135,830 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)I honestly think that Conservatives realize that appealing to the least sensible, most emotionally overwrought, attack-mode side of any issue has become a mandatory part of the rhetoric for anyone hoping to gain the support of today's Republicans.
applegrove
(118,642 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)They follow them, so of course they are not leaders. Their time in office is prescribed and planned out for their pay masters and their bosses are not the American people.
Theirc onsistent pattern is nepotism, stealing the Commons and keeping the money coming for their own friends and family. They see no further than that.
They are patricians or tribalists, and would be oligarchs. If people would just see what the GOP truly is, a criminal conspiracy to get rich, they might get voted out.
The sad thing is, the people that vote for them are no different in values and goals. That is what we're confronted with here in the USA, no different than what is going on in Ukraine and Russia and other nations.
Very ugly thing.
applegrove
(118,642 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)Thanks for the thread, applegrove.
2naSalit
(86,582 posts)Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)The suburbs, especially the exurbs, are Republican strongholds, and so many people live in neighborhoods that have NOTHING within walking distance and no non-automotive ways to get anywhere.
Anything that says "Your way of life will have to change" is going to be threatening.
They think, "I can't drive as much? I'll be trapped in my house! And how will anyone know that I'm important if I can't drive a big car?"
I am not a vegetarian, but nearly 40 years ago, when Anna Thomas wrote her pioneering cookbook The Vegetarian Epicure, she noted that (at that time), when people thought of a vegetarian meal, they imagined a meat-and-potatoes meal without the meat, i.e. potatoes and a pile of vegetables. As her recipes indicated, however, vegetarianism was a whole new way of looking at meals, so that your main dish could be a soup, a stir fry, a casserole, a curry, a burrito, or any number of other foods from around the world.
In the same way, the Republican base things of car-free or car-lite living as exurban life without the cars. It never occurs to them that their suburb or exurb could be retrofitted to be more transit, cycling, and pedestrian friendly.
applegrove
(118,642 posts)the idea of that only retrofitted so that you go online and order food from them for the week and they get those items in. A few trucks delivering food to that grocery store rather than 300 cars driving way the heck out to the big box grocery. The possibilities are endless. If we could only get the gop to help in congress with laws that would encourage such thinking.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But you forgot to add rural areas that insist on maintaining a way of life that is...well rural...and pretty much over.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)and according to my grandmother, who spent the early years of her marriage in various small towns in North Dakota up through about 1925, people would live on their farms, drive (a car or a horse and wagon) into town once or twice a week, park their vehicle, and walk around to do errands.
It wasn't the contemporary suburban lifestyle, only with cows and chickens.
Such a life would be even more sustainable, given electronic communications, if only there were still small towns with a variety of businesses (which were largely supplied by the railroads).
I asked my grandmother how people moved from town to town in those days. She said that they rented a boxcar from the railroad, hired a horse-drawn wagon and a crew to haul their belongings to the station, paid the railroad to take their boxcar to the new town, and picked up their belongings, again with a horse-drawn wagon and a paid crew.
It was a huge mistake for this country to let its railroads deteriorate to second-class status.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)they are being fought tooth and nail.
But the battle was lost about fifteen years ago when a decision was made to keep centralized energy production and keep our utilities a private, viable system
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)when they moved from South Dakota to WI in 1910. And thy rode in the boxcar.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Global warming is real but telling people they're stupid for "not believing the science" is the wrong approach. There has to be a vastly different approach.
There are a lot of right wing nutjobs who are firm believers in renewable/free energy and even buy into scams so there should be an approach that gets everyone energized just like people from all walks of life are energized about the internet and computers. Once more people start reducing their footprint, behemoth corp interest will follow suit and also start investing.
And no I don't believe carbon credits are the answer.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)There's not much that they won't do for money.
elleng
(130,895 posts)money enables politicians to pay for ads
'Unlimited campaign expenditures impair the democratic process, retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens told senators Wednesday, urging Congress to amend the Constitution to allow reasonable limits on election spending. . .
While money is used to finance speech, money is not speech, Stevens said. After all, campaign funds were used to finance the Watergate burglaries -- actions that clearly were not protected by the First Amendment.'
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-supreme-court-stevens-congress-money-speech-20140430-story.html
Finding a remedy MUST be my goal, as this country is completely messed up (polite terms,) and will NOT recover without CHANGE!
penndragon69
(788 posts)It gives THEM time to buy up all the high ground around coastal cities
so that when the waters start to rise, it will be THEY who have high ground to sell
to the highest bidder.
Disgusting, really.
malaise
(268,976 posts)Rec
JEB
(4,748 posts)mn9driver
(4,425 posts)That's the current worldwide value of oil in proved reserve in the ground.
That buys a LOT of denial.