For anyone interested, this is how I responded to the following misinformed post. My response is at the bottom of the page:
IT"S CALLED STANDING UP FOR OUR RIGHTS! READ THE FACTS! QUIT BEING A ASS KISSER!
"Obeying the law", an indiscriminate and illegitimate law, works under a Sovereign dictatorship, but that's not what this country is about. Those laws must be congruent with the terms of the Constitution, and they have long not been so. The federal government is not only not entitled to own lands in any of the States, but also the Constitution does not allow for any federal laws applicable directly to the people of those several States.
Ever wonder how the "Federal State of Nevada" came about with a claimed 85% federal ownership?
In 1845 the Supreme Court indicated in Pollard Lessee v Hagan not only that each State is sovereign over "all the lands" within her boundaries, and that no "compact" made by a State (in this case, the Nevada Constitution) can diminish that sovereignty, but also recognized a doctrine going back before the ratification being applicable to the federal government, the Equal Footing Doctrine, which ensured that Sovereignty.
The only reason the feds claim ownership of those lands, is from continuing to promate a criminal act by the federal government, that being Lincoln martial law. Acting as martial law dictator, Lincoln rushed Nevada Statehood so as to continue to control Congress in his second term, with his puppets not only controlling Nevada but incorporating a reference to the maintenance of those federal lands in the Nevada Constitution. Lincoln also wanted Nevada ore (gold) to pay for the Civil War. However as per the Hagan Court case, not only can the Nevada not legitimately give up its lands, but neither can the Federal government take authority over those lands when the Constitution itself provides no provision to hold those lands.
Not only do the feds have no legitimacy there, and should have been disarmed by force, but there is no authority for a slate of federal laws above State law, nor for "hate crimes", nor the EPA, FDA, DOH, Homeland Security, all working to make our country a federally dictated prison. The actions of BLM are nothing but a criminal enterprise operating by conspiracy to promote and advance the initial theft, in violation of the Constitution and Law of the Land, and every federal agent that acted with use of force should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, for conspiracy, abuse of rights under the color of law, and any loss of life and property that might occur.
My response:
Too many Sovereign Citizen websites for you. First of all, the constitution clearly states the Federal Gov. has rights to those lands. See here:
http://constitution.laws.com/article-4/federal-property Second, the states don't want all that land because it's too expensive to take care of. Third, Pollard vs Hagan had to do with SUBMERGED lands like river ways. The basic idea behind the Martin decision was that the States control their waterways (for navigation and riparian rights), FYI, this only applies to waters that were navigable at the time of Statehood.
http://www.invispress.com/law/natural/pollard.html It has ZERO to do with the issues in Nevada and Utah. Forth, the Equal Footing Doctrine DOES NOT ensure sovereignty in the sense you are thinking. Equal Footing is a constitutional law doctrine upon which States admitted to the United States are simply given the same legal rights as the preexisting states. And by the way, even Commissioner Lyman who set up this demonstration didn't want anyone to go into the off limits area and break laws. It was idiot Ryan Bundy who pulled that crap because he is as misinformed as you are about the Constitution. Please, next time you read an article that seems to go against common sense look up the actual law and see for yourself what it says.
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