Republicans waking up?

[CTyankee]

I feel like I got up this morning in an alternate universe on MSNBC. Morning Joe was chock full of republicans handwringing about Karl Rove's idiotic remarks about Hillary. But it expanded to the other nutjobs in their party and everybody joined in. I'm sure it had to do with Brian Sullivan's meltdown yesterday on the show, plus some of Marco Rubio's yammerings on climate change.

First it was Nicole Wallace, then a clip of Newt Gingrich, then Rob Portman. NYT reporter Jeremy Peters talked about generational change being such a loser for the pukes.

I was done after Portman quoted JFK saying "a rising tide lifts all boats," but then when asked about his party's stand on minimum wage and food stamps, refused to budge from the standard repuke lines about creating jobs.

Someone on the panel said that the republicans simply don't know how to talk to poor people. Of course, these pukes don't even KNOW any poor people so..

[winstars]

1. Thanks for watching so some here don't, its appreciated!!! nt

[CTyankee]

3. well, it's a piece of the evolving picture on current politics, but must be taken with a large

grain of salt. It's fun to see repukes squirm in discomfort, wherever we find them...I watch while perusing the morning papers and drinking my coffee, but it soon bores me so I go on DU...my husband says by the time I get through with Morning Joe and checking in with DU, I'm pissed off for the rest of the day...LOL...

[djean111]

2. More likely Republicans knowing they have so much more mud to fling at Hillary, methinks.

Also, even if the GOP gets rid of every single Teapublican, they still mean harm to the country. They had that meeting about only blocking Obama and doing nothing else before the Tea party shambled out of the Koch compound, I think.
Not a change of heart, but a change in tactics.
The Tea Party was well and truly used.

[CTyankee]

5. So far, they ain't got much. Frist their Obamacare "scare" failed miserably, now this fresh idiocy

over Karl Rove's "diagnosis" of HRC. There must be growing panic in the party...fine with me...

[djean111]

8. All they have to do is use the same stuff Obama's campaign used, plus a bit of Monica, Benghazi,

stuff like that. A lot of their base just believes what they are told, even if it changes from day to day.
They can trot Palin out so as to not appear as woman-bashing. Whitewater, etc. Nothing has to be true in campaigns, I have been told. Just effective.

[CTyankee]

10. well, they've been trying Benghazi for a while now and they really look stupid...

despite Joe's arm waving and loud yelling...which had the net effect of making him look crazy.

Even Nicole Wallace admitted during her weak defense of repuke talk that "I got nothin'." With a little laugh.

[djean111]

18. Yes, they look stupid. To US.

Here is an example of how stupid a dyed in the wool Republican is - a woman who works in a hearing aid store told me that she knows FOR A FACT that Rick Scott accepted the Medicaid money, and then Obamacare pushed all those poor little kids off of Florida medicaid and now they have no coverage. FOR A FACT!
In reality, Scott announced he would accept the expansion of Medicaid, and the money, for three years. Knowing his lapdog GOP-run legislatur would either turn it down or just not vote on it.
I believe the legislature may have gone on home now. No Medicaid expansion.
But Scott has neatly undercut a Crist campaign point, and no amount of facts is going to convince people like her that Scott did not accept the expansion, but Obama kicked poor little kids and poor adults off the rolls.
See how that works? Benghazi? Same thing. Whatever they are told. The rest is Democratic lies.

there is an opinion piece from six days ago in the WSJ about how the Dems are lying about Benghazi.
No facts are necessary for the GOP's purposes.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304431104579550274006590930

I don't think there is a fact in it. It is an ugly misshapen glob of lies. But some will believe it.

[CTyankee]

21. some repukes are hopeless, no doubt about it.

"mishapen" is a good description, like "warped."

[clydefrand]

4. Why oh why do

dems even watch Morning Joe? Nothing good is ever (for a good reason) said about him?
I don't watch it even though MSNBC is my favorite news channel other wise .

[CTyankee]

6. sometimes it's fun to watch squirming repukes but yes, it's hard to take more than a few

segments...it's a mild diversion while I make my plans for the day....

[FSogol]

7. Probably not, probably just a broken clock moment. Of course the Washington Post had these stories

on the front page this morning:


"Cantor finds himself a target of tea party"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/eric-cantors-tea-party-opponent-in-va-primary-may-be-picking-up-momentum/2014/05/13/1a2d92d0-d9d7-11e3-b745-87d39690c5c0_story.html?hpid=z1

and "The tea party has a big fundraising problem"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/05/13/the-tea-partys-big-fundraising-problem/?hpid=z1

[Laelth]

9. I shall merely refer to my signature line on this one. n/t

-Laelth

[CTyankee]

11. good sig line! Refreshing to think of all these Dems in Georgia...

[Laelth]

12. Georgia will be blue in a couple of cycles. No joke.

If Republicans can't win Georgia, they can't win the Presidency at all. The electoral math makes this clear.

While the DPG remains a weak, shadow-organization (having been pummeled into submission for 12 years--our last Democratic Governor was defeated in 2002), we are quite excited about our prospects for 2014. Jason Carter and Michelle Nunn are excellent candidates.

-Laelth

[CTyankee]

13. Exactly the fears as expressed on Morning Joe today...

pukes are looking at what is going on in GA and gulping hard...to paraphrase Miss Pittypat "Democrats in Atlanta! Who let them in?"

[Laelth]

16. Bravo on the Pittypat reference. I laughed.

Of course, the urban areas of Georgia have voted Democratic for a long time. In my own home town, Macon-Bibb, a medium-sized city in the middle of the state with, perhaps, 150K living in the county, one can't get elected to a county-wide office unless one runs as a Democrat. Our Mayor is a Democrat. Our Sheriff is a personal friend, and a real Democrat, but this is the typical pattern around the country--urban areas tend to vote Democratic and rural areas tend to vote Republican. As the South continues to become more urban, Republican hopes for political dominance diminish.

Atlanta, of course, is the Democratic bastion in the state. So, I can't agree with Pittypat, per se. The Democrats have held Atlanta for a long time, but I laughed all the same. Thanks for that.



-Laelth

[CTyankee]

19. Yes, I realize that about urban areas in the South.

The problem is that the Rs are still in control of the House because redistricting allowed the Rs to come out ahead in House races. How blue is your Georgia state legislature? Any chance of changing the redistricting?

[Laelth]

20. Your analysis is spot on.

I see no chance to change either chamber of the Georgia General Assembly until 2022. It's just too well-gerrymandered.

I hope, of course, that I am wrong about this.

-Laelth

[CTyankee]

22. I can't understand why states such as GA can get some great Dems in Senate and gubernatorial

races, but can't get a stronger position in the state lege. Why is it such a problem, from your perspective?

[Laelth]

23. Frankly, party politics are still racially charged in the Deep South.

That's one issue. In addition (or, partly as a result), most of the Deep South franchises of the Democratic Party (as you know, legally, the Democratic Party is just a franchising operation) have been decimated over the past 30 years as wealthy contributors who wanted to buy the government's largess have given their money to Republicans, instead. The GDP has been teetering on the verge of bankruptcy many times over this same period. Individual Democrats with individual lists of powerful backers can still succeed, but working one's way up through the Party apparatus is virtually impossible.

Those are some of the factors. Undoubtedly, there are more.



-Laelth

[spanone]

14. turned it on. saw larry kudlow. turned it off.

[CTyankee]

15. Oh, I had fled before that...I saw that he was slated to be on and exited accordingly...

I didn't want my cheerios to come right back up....

[spanone]

17. think i had it on a total of 7 seconds....waaaay too long.