Randi Rhodes:If the democrats don't get out the vote in 2014

[bigdarryl]

It won't be until 2018 before things finally turn around.She said the possibility is there will be a republican winning the White House in 2016 because its hard for a party to hold the WH three times in a row. And in 2018 there will be the midterms where things might change after a complete republican rule.I kind of agree with her I'm going to miss Randi's knowledge on politics

[Dawson Leery]

1. Read Alan Lichtman's "The Thirteen Keys To The Presidency".

If the incumbent or incumbent party has at least 8 of the 13 keys, they win. Democrats had 8 keys in 2000. Al Gore was the rightful winner. The Lichtman formula is accurate back to 1860.

[bigdarryl]

3. Very true I have ALL Allan's books on the keys

He hasn't done any updates on 2016 as of yet. But one key is definitly lost and that's incumbent if the Dems loose seats in the midterm that will go against them. Everybody keeps talking about the Senate important but not as important as the midterms

[onehandle]

2. Nobody beats Hillary.

Not saying she should run, or that I want her to run.

But if Hillary runs, she wins.

And don't bring up the 2008 primary. Obama was born to be a President. There is no other Democrat that could beat her this time.

[zappaman]

4. I would love to agree with that.

But I don't.

[bigdarryl]

5. I'll wait till Allan's keys on 2016 to make that kind of prediction