DAMN!!! Did anyone know there's a 3rd Koch brother in fact he's a twin of one of the two

[bigdarryl]

This doesn't get any media attention. Probably most pundits don't know this.http://www.forbes.com/profile/william-koch/

[CanonRay]

1. I think he's the one who collects cowboy stuff

like whole towns of it. They all have a screw loose.

[MADem]

2. That would be Curly Joe Koch....?

[Tsiyu]

3. So tell us about him

I hate clicking on forbes; hate clicking on most mainstream websites anymore.

They take eons to load and never load properly, and I have pretty fast internet.

Their pages are just too clunky, trying to fit too much junk + 2 or 3 commercials or other videos on a page.

Gotta go through an obstacle course just to get the durn story.

Sorry, rant over.......

[Hassin Bin Sober]

5. Yes. I refuse to open a Huffpost link for that reason.

[Tsiyu]

11. Haven't even tried in years at Huffpo

when I had dialup, forget it.

I guess they get a hit count just by a click on some of these sites, but I can't see most people having the time to wait for them to load enough to get what they clicked for.

[intaglio]

14. I find both Huffpo and other problematic websites open fine in Chrome

I use Opera for my normal browsing - it is a little more secure - and Chrome for problem sites

[Tsiyu]

15. Yeah, just not ready for the Chrome experience

but I have heard some good things about it.

[intaglio]

17. Not as vulnerable as Ie or Firefox

But still problematic - I caught a pop-over virus via a Firefox (the "preferred" browser for some game companies) "update your Java" message and it infected Ie, Chrome as well as Firefox. Opera wasn't touched.
Firfox and Ie were a nightmare to clear, Chrome was much easier.

[mindem]

6. Wow, I thought it was just me.

I have had the feeling lately that the internet is rapidly becoming useless due to the over abundance of advertising and worthless videos. I have a fast connection and there are times my computer comes close to freezing.

[Tsiyu]

12. It really is, no matter what browser you have

then install some printers ( like HP ) and they want to phone home to corporate every six seconds, and then this program and that program wants an answer to some dire question.

They talk about workers being moochers. The corporations are just mooching off people with an internet connection. Their cookies and adware and popups and constant bugging me feels like I have parasites, mooching worms and lice and other vermin that just become more insidious.

It smells like desperation on the part of corporations, who would do better to spend all that $$$$ on better pay for their workers.

[dionysus]

8. all i know about him is he had a falling out with his brothers, and despite being filthy rich, isn't

as evil as them. well, at least in so much as he isn't trying to buy the govt. I wouldn't throw him a parade or anything.

[Tsiyu]

13. Thanks n/t

[CatWoman]

19. from the link:

Net Worth
$4.1 Billion
$0 | 0%
As of 5/18/2014 @ 5:50PM *
Follow (50)

Age
74

Source Of Wealth
oil, investments

Residence
Palm Beach, FL

Citizenship
United States

Marital Status
Married

Children
6

Brother of Charles and David (his twin), Bill Koch won $12 million in punitive damages in April, 2013, from entrepreneur Eric Greenberg, who'd consigned fake bottles of Bordeaux for auction at Zachys. He's also fighting against bizarre allegations his minions at Oxbow Carbon held a former executive prisoner at his Wild West ranch in Colorado; countersuit accuses exec of embezzlement and lying about being kidnapped. Plus he's suing Warren Buffett's Burlington Northern railway for charging monopoly prices to ship his coal. Koch paid $19.5 million for Rachel "Bunny" Mellon's former Cape Cod estate in 2013. He tried to wrest control of Koch Industries in 1980, and was fired. With eldest brother Frederick, he then sold stakes back to brothers for over $700 million in 1983. Feeling shortchanged, he spent 18 years suing for more. He settled after jury awarded them zero in 1998.

[malaise]

4. Check this out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024968681

[tavernier]

7. He had to borrow money to buy a house.

I guess he's the broke Koch.

[dixiegrrrrl]

9. Darryl, Darryl, and his other brother Darryl, eh?

( for those who remember)

[SamKnause]

10. Yes, I knew he had 4 sons. (Fred C. Koch)

Charles, David, Bill, and Frederick.

[HooptieWagon]

16. Yes, I know. I've met him.

Bill Koch is a well-known sailor. He was the organizer and financial backer of a winning America's Cup yacht, then for the following event he was the organizer and financial backer of an all-woman team that did very well in the defense trials.
He is a conservative, but imo not as bad as his brothers. In fact, he sued his brothers for illegally drilling on Indian and Federal land, and won. As part of the court judgement, besides paying a large fine, his brothers were ordered to buy out Bill's shares in Koch Industries.

[deminks]

18. Don't look now, but there are 4 bros

Meet Fred R. Jr:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_R._Koch

Lovely family.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2012/12/05/bad-blood-meet-bill-and-fred-the-other-two-koch-brothers/

What's the matter with Kansas? Too much Koch.

[WhiteTara]

20. There are four of them altogether. nt

[lumberjack_jeff]

21. Everyone forgets Shemp. n/t