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WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:02 PM May 2014

What's the deal with sweetening fruits?

I'm not necessarily referring to HCFS or artificial sweeteners (I use a limited amount of Splenda and Stevia myself in certain instances). I'm not interested in those campaigns personally. But just on a societal level, I'm just wondering why we in this Country find it necessary to add any kind of sweetener to fruits.

Why are almost all canned fruits packed in sugary syrups? Who decided that peaches and pears and pineapple aren't deliciously sweet all by themselves? True, if you shop in the right places and look carefully enough, you can find fruits canned in unsweetened juice, but there are far fewer varieties of those on the shelves, which must mean that there is less demand for juice-packed canned fruits and I just don't get it. I had to look in several stores before I finally found mandarin orange slices in unsweetened juice (thank you, DelMonte!).

I remember that when I was a kid, people would cut beautiful fresh peaches or berries and put them in a bowl AND SUGAR THEM.......before putting them on ice cream for dessert. What the heck??!!! Even my Mom, who always fed sensible, nutritious meals, would add some sugar to the gorgeous fresh strawberries we'd bring in from the garden.

Is it just a sugar addiction or do people not know that "in heavy syrup" or even "in light syrup" doesn't really mean that the fruit tastes better?

Just musing on a Sunday afternoon.

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What's the deal with sweetening fruits? (Original Post) WillowTree May 2014 OP
I like to macerate strawberries to bring forth the succulent juices and then use that juice as a Ed Suspicious May 2014 #1
i read through. ..This is the best answer pipoman May 2014 #14
I macerate fruit with a bit of sugar and Cointreau frazzled May 2014 #18
It's difficult...my spouse and I have fruit for dessert every night... CTyankee May 2014 #2
Supermarket fruit is often not sweet Freddie May 2014 #3
Certain types of fruit (like peaches) will not get any sweeter after being picked Major Nikon May 2014 #8
RIGHT, elleng May 2014 #16
Depends on the fruit. Fresh pineapple isn't helped by sugar, stopbush May 2014 #4
Try finding white grapfruit juice in the store - nearly impossible Xipe Totec May 2014 #5
IT is extemely hard to find an applesauce these days that doesn't have HFCS JCMach1 May 2014 #6
Applesauce is very easy to make yourself Major Nikon May 2014 #31
I think originally, it was used as a preservative in jams and canned fruit. Cleita May 2014 #7
Preservation csziggy May 2014 #9
I'll use a bit of sugar and lime juice on sliced fruits. I think the 2 add to the whole taste. pinto May 2014 #10
They do. Sugar to macerate and a little lime to brighten the flavor Warpy May 2014 #36
Yeah. Even here, with many fresh fruit options, I'll salt & lime and let sit for a bit. pinto May 2014 #37
Well, the purists will never forgive us Warpy May 2014 #38
As has been mentioned laundry_queen May 2014 #11
so much sugar handmade34 May 2014 #13
Sugar, believe it or not, is a preservative. dipsydoodle May 2014 #12
+ struggle4progress May 2014 #15
Don't really need a preservative on fresh fruits unless you're going to store them. WillowTree May 2014 #22
Moderation dem in texas May 2014 #17
Adding a scant bit of sugar to strawberries Frustratedlady May 2014 #19
I just gave my melon baller a workout... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #20
I just slice up those melons! I half them,then quarter them, then in eighths... CTyankee May 2014 #21
For myself, I'll just dig in with a spoon... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #28
that sounds good, I like sugar that has a tiny bit of almond extract in it bettyellen May 2014 #23
Almond extract would be good. Vanilla, too... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #33
We actually sprinkled a bit of salt onto our canteloupe SoCalDem May 2014 #24
Salt and Pepper dem in texas May 2014 #26
Chili powder? Have to try that some time. TreasonousBastard May 2014 #29
Watermelon, chili powder and lime Bluenorthwest May 2014 #40
Yes. Done that-- salt brings out flavors. TreasonousBastard May 2014 #32
Kids started getting these damn "fruit snacks" gollygee May 2014 #25
I dunno. Think I must just be strange or something. WillowTree May 2014 #30
You can rinse canned fruits to wash off the sugary syrup dem in texas May 2014 #27
I've NEVER like fruit with syrup Aerows May 2014 #34
Sugar is a preservative. Brickbat May 2014 #35
Fruit substitutes.... RAAVAN May 2014 #39

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
1. I like to macerate strawberries to bring forth the succulent juices and then use that juice as a
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:07 PM
May 2014

sort of sauce for my angel food cake. Maceration is the bomb. I fail to see a compelling reason to deprive myself of that simple pleasure that can only be brought about in the most pleasing manner by use of a little sugar.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. I macerate fruit with a bit of sugar and Cointreau
Sun May 18, 2014, 06:17 PM
May 2014

This is how the French make a fruit salad, and I must say, it brings out the flavors and juiciness and then some (thanks, orange liqueur).

I agree that there's nothing wrong with adding a little sugar to fruits on occasion. Mostly we eat fruit (apples, pears, grapes, pineapple, etc.) just as it is. But for berries or a mixed-fruit salad, maceration is the extra step that makes the fruit better.

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
2. It's difficult...my spouse and I have fruit for dessert every night...
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:12 PM
May 2014

it's hard in the winter so we rely on canned fruit packed in water and the splenda. Our little farm market closed 3 years ago for repairs but hasn't opened up again...I miss having that option...

Freddie

(9,278 posts)
3. Supermarket fruit is often not sweet
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:17 PM
May 2014

Picked unripe so it doesn't bruise or spoil during shipping. Fruit in-season like peaches and strawberries at the farm stand are infinitely better! Sadly the local-strawberry season here is very brief (late May and June) and the rest of the year it's back to those big tasteless red things at the supermarket.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. Certain types of fruit (like peaches) will not get any sweeter after being picked
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:24 PM
May 2014

Bananas will continue to convert more complex carbohydrates into sugars after being picked but stone fruits will not even though they may get softer.

elleng

(131,336 posts)
16. RIGHT,
Sun May 18, 2014, 05:26 PM
May 2014

and I'm HOPING the wonderful local strawberries I found at farm market last year are READY, because I'll be passing by it this week!

stopbush

(24,398 posts)
4. Depends on the fruit. Fresh pineapple isn't helped by sugar,
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:19 PM
May 2014

but even a tiny bit of sugar on strawberries helps to bring out their sweetness.

Xipe Totec

(43,892 posts)
5. Try finding white grapfruit juice in the store - nearly impossible
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014

All they carry now is Ruby Red Grapefruit; loaded with sugar. They don't need to add sugar to it it's already built into the genes. And don't get me started on sweet corn. Yuck!

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
31. Applesauce is very easy to make yourself
Sun May 18, 2014, 08:40 PM
May 2014

Just chop up some apples in a pot with a little water and simmer for 20 minutes, then blend with a stick blender. I leave the skins on which greatly increases the fiber.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. I think originally, it was used as a preservative in jams and canned fruit.
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:24 PM
May 2014

Then it just became a thing that's done because people got used to the sugar sweetened fruit.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
9. Preservation
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:26 PM
May 2014

Foods packaged prior to modern techniques could be preserved by drying, salting, acid preservation or sugar preservation. Increasing salt levels, acidity, or sugar prevented growth of dangerous bacteria.

I suspect the continuing use of sugar is due to two factors - lingering taste preferences from before modern methods of preservation were possible and that sugar tastes so good it's addictive.

As far as adding sugar to fresh fruit, macerating fruit with some sugar draws out the juices which is sometimes desirable for some ways of presentation.

Warpy

(111,428 posts)
36. They do. Sugar to macerate and a little lime to brighten the flavor
Sun May 18, 2014, 09:36 PM
May 2014

makes for the best fruit flavors, especially if you live in an area where fresh fruits aren't commonly available, only the fruits picked green and gased into ripeness.

Warpy

(111,428 posts)
38. Well, the purists will never forgive us
Sun May 18, 2014, 09:50 PM
May 2014

I suppose we'll have to look to gourmands for approval.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
11. As has been mentioned
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:30 PM
May 2014

Most supermarket fruit isn't all that sweet. There is zero comparison to store bought strawberries and the juicy, sweet, tangy ones you pick from your garden (or wild ones, omg yum!) I think food manufacturers add more sugar because the fruit they use is terrible quality.

Plus, I think in the 'old' days, sugar was added as a preservative when canning fruits. I know my grandmother used to can wild blueberries, and as sweet as those are, she still added sugar.

I mostly buy fruit in fruit juice. My kids don't like the syrup. My mom never bought the kind in syrup either. I can understand, though, if you are using it for a dessert. But overall, yeah, way too much sugar in everything out there.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
22. Don't really need a preservative on fresh fruits unless you're going to store them.
Sun May 18, 2014, 07:30 PM
May 2014

And this day and age, even in those circumstances where we do want to preserve them, there are better ways to do it than adding carbs, calories and tooth decay that nature never intended.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
17. Moderation
Sun May 18, 2014, 05:51 PM
May 2014

A teaspoon or two of sugars on a bowl of strawberries is not so bad. You need to be worried about all the sugar loaded soft drinks that people drink. I see them in the store buying shopping carts full of 12 packs of soft drinks. Their entire family will be future type 2 diabetics

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
19. Adding a scant bit of sugar to strawberries
Sun May 18, 2014, 07:08 PM
May 2014

will start the juices flowing on strawberries. That is probably why she added it.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
20. I just gave my melon baller a workout...
Sun May 18, 2014, 07:25 PM
May 2014

and, as has been mentioned, the stuff you buy isn't all that sweet, including Mexican cantaloupes.

So, after a bunch of cantaloupe and honeydew balls went into the bowl with some blueberries and strawberries came the mastifornication-- a little maple syrup, a little brown sugar, and little honey, and some cinnamon. The balls were much, much tastier after their swim than before without the sugar coma following canned fruit.


CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
21. I just slice up those melons! I half them,then quarter them, then in eighths...
Sun May 18, 2014, 07:30 PM
May 2014

and there's our dessert! Voila!

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
28. For myself, I'll just dig in with a spoon...
Sun May 18, 2014, 08:38 PM
May 2014

or fill the hole with ice cream and dig in with a spoon.

Why waste time cutting any more than you have to?

This was for an occasion, hence the work.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
23. that sounds good, I like sugar that has a tiny bit of almond extract in it
Sun May 18, 2014, 07:38 PM
May 2014

in fruit salad. Just a tiny bit, that you don;t even know what it is. And salt on watermelons and some melons too.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
33. Almond extract would be good. Vanilla, too...
Sun May 18, 2014, 08:43 PM
May 2014

I simply forgot about vanilla.

Someone upthread mentioned chatreuse-- any sort of liqueur or brandy is excellent, too.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
26. Salt and Pepper
Sun May 18, 2014, 08:30 PM
May 2014

That's how we eat them. In Mexico, a lot of fresh fruit is eaten with chili powder sprinkled on it.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
25. Kids started getting these damn "fruit snacks"
Sun May 18, 2014, 07:47 PM
May 2014

Otherwise known as gummi candy masquerading as fruit. My older daughter was given it for snack at preschool all the time, and guess what - she doesn't like fruit. We parents revolted and now the younger one doesn't get them. The school now has them banned as snacks.

But they expected fruit to taste like this gummi candy.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
30. I dunno. Think I must just be strange or something.
Sun May 18, 2014, 08:40 PM
May 2014

In most instances, I'd really prefer almost any fruit in its natural state, even the less-tasty fruits that can be had in grocery stores. And this in spite of the fact that I grew up with many sweetened varieties.

Of course, there are a few exceptions. Cranberries and rhubarb (yes.......I know it's really a vegetable) are almost inedible to me unsweetened and I love them both with a little sweetener added.

Whatever. In the end, I feel really fortunate that my tastes are what they are in this regard. Lord knows there enough things out there that keep me in the gym and the dentist's office. LOL!!

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
27. You can rinse canned fruits to wash off the sugary syrup
Sun May 18, 2014, 08:35 PM
May 2014

I used to work with a non-profit that had a meal program for seniors. We were getting surplus food from the government and the canned fruit was packed in sugary syrup. The nutritionist who oversaw the food program and menus told the food workers to just rinse the canned fruit with water and it could be served to diabetics.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. I've NEVER like fruit with syrup
Sun May 18, 2014, 08:46 PM
May 2014

Or god forbid jello with fruit cocktail suspended in it (or worse, both with mayonnaise !!!? Who the hell thought of that joyless concoction?).

I don't even drink my iced tea with any sweetener in it, nor my coffee (which I actually quit a few years ago altogether since decaf tea does the job without the caffeine).


I had strawberries and blackberries yesterday that I cut up in a bowl ... washed and as they are. Ugh. Sweetening things for the sake of sweetening them .

 

RAAVAN

(31 posts)
39. Fruit substitutes....
Mon May 19, 2014, 01:32 AM
May 2014

Some fruits are the best sugar substitutes. ... like orange, mango, banana...............

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