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Democratic House members negotiated the new legislation to restrain massive surveillance.
Then House GOP met with the WH and negotiated a weakened bill.
What the hell is going on?
The WH works to weaken the oversight legislation hammered out by the Democrats? To the satisfaction of House GOP?
What the holy hell is going on? That almost approaches a constitutional crisis.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014809083
msongs
(67,441 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,242 posts)Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)that you eventually get to?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Good business. The war business. It's why all the secret government business.
It's the most un-democratic business there is, but, hey! Somebody's gotta do it. Amiright?
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)details means something. Do you want a half-assed bill or something that actually addresses the issue at hand?
Lawmaker Opposition
In particular, language was added to the bill that would allow the government to collect records that identify a person, entity, account, address or device, which critics say is too broad.
The House Rules Committee wont allow any amendments to the bill when it comes to the House floor today.
Im going to be against it, Representative Jared Polis, a Colorado Democrat, said in an interview. The danger is that it potentially offers a window dressing of a solution thats not a real solution and its better to keep the issue on the table and fight for real privacy rights.
Representative Zoe Lofgren, a California Democrat, said changes made are seriously a step backwards, and that she hadnt made up her mind how she will vote....quite possibly opens up the door to bulk collections again, even though were saying were not going to do bulk collections, Lofgren said in an interview.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)law of unintended consequences? I am.
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)....our elected Democrats are just chopped liver. There appears to be collusion between House Republicans and the WH to circumvent the will of the people who elected Dems.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Yes, that describes our corrupt, corporate-purchased government that is building surveillance machines and impoverishing millions.
We have had a Constitutional crisis for some time now.
Oh, and propaganda machines, too. The president handed a little girl a flower today, or something.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Obama is a progressive.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)That's my schtick
1000words
(7,051 posts)You will be remembered fondly.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)I am not sure what to think.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)....by the WH and GOP collaboration.