"If you are a feminist, then you are a hater; you are just as bad as those in the KKK."

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I've compiled a short list of various anti-feminist websites which have presented a list of quotes from feminists and radical feminists that is now being pushed on DU...

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1032041/

Shows how women have become sexist, which make sense since most woman support feminism. Feminism is notoriously anti-white male establishment that has advocated in the past for white male taxes, etc, etc.

Here are some quotes from notorious feminism:

http://markymarksthoughts.blogspot.com/2013/04/feminism-is-hate.html

Here are a few quotes from leading feminazis. To anyone saying that feminism isn't a hate movement, you're full of you know what! Feminism=hatred of men; it always has, and it always will. If you are a feminist, then you are a hater; you are just as bad as those in the KKK.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Feminism&defid=4837583

Feminism is the radical notion that men are not people.

Feminism dehumanizes men for political gain. Here are some examples from leading feminists in their own words:

http://darkproxy.hubpages.com/hub/The-true-reason-feminism-is-a-bad-word

In modern time we have women and men working together; however, this isn't because women are doing all they can to work hard and prove their equality to men. Feminists have the common attitude that women shouldn't have to fight for everything they accomplish in life, this is of course the way men get around in the work place. Most women are psychologically unfit to handle the rigors of the work place.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Quotations_about_Feminism

Conservapedia is a clean and concise resource for those seeking the truth. We do not allow liberal bias to deceive and distort here.

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1. This isn't dying, by the way. It won't be sinking like a brick even if some here want it to.

[stranger81]

2. Could we please NOT link to Stormfront on DU?

Thank you.

[Squinch]

5. In this case it's instructive of how radical the ideas being pushed on DU are and it is appropriate.

[stranger81]

10. I must disagree. Particularly with all the other links here, the point can be adequately made

without giving Stormfront any traffic.

Boy has this place changed.

[alp227]

16. OR if anything, link the site thru "Do Not Link"

to avoid giving the site any traffic
http://www.donotlink.com/jJm

[TDale313]

3. K&R

[AverageJoe90]

4. Well, I'm a guy who happens to be from TX, and "white" and "cis", and I say no. *I Am A Feminist*.

For every person like Andrea Dworkin, or Mikki Kendall(yes, I'll admit it: #solidarityforwhitewomen was NOT a good idea. Though to be fair, she hasn't done anything quite as bad, at all, as either of the other two), or Flavia Dzodan, who might do or say something screwy every so often(I'd have also mentioned Hugo Schwyzer, though I don't consider him a real feminist at all), there's a hundred others(at least!), like Laurie Penny, Amanda Marcotte, Dave Futrelle, bell hooks(yes, I can forgive her for being too hard on Beyonce), etc. who have done some good work over the years educating people about women's issues in the modern era. And they deserve credit for that.

And then we can look at historical figures such as Sojourner Truth, Ida B. Wells, Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and the Pankhurst Sisters(for all the Britons out there), who were working for equality in past eras. Without them.....where would feminism even be?

So yes, I may be a guy, but I'm still a feminist. Feminism stands for equality(no matter how much MRAs may moan and groan about how bad they think it is.) I stand for equality. Therefore, I am a feminist.....

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7. You can't condense the entirety of Dworkin's work into one or two quotes without context.

Yes, some of what she said was terribly untrue. But you'd be ignoring an immense body of work by dismissing her because of a few of the quotes MRA types latch onto.

[nomorenomore08]

12. +1

Thank you for saying that. And I am hardly a Dworkin "fan" - though I do acknowledge her intelligence, and her talent as a prose stylist. Have you by any chance read either of her two novels? I haven't, but I am somewhat interested.

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21. I have not read any of her novels. I've stuck to her essays.

It's interesting reading her and other fringe feminists in an academic haven. Before we were given her work, and the work of people like Valerie Solanas, there was a miniature lecture which discussed these individuals as controversial characters. We were told how it was okay to read and agree with much of what they wrote while, at the same time, disagreeing with the more absurd claims. We were not told they were perfect by any measure. But that's what the establishment wants to believe. That we worship at the alter of Dworkin and Solanas and we thirst for the blood of men.

They were more complex than that. We are more complex than that.

Was SCUM Manifesto meant to be satire or was it totally sincere? I am friends with a biographer of Solanas and even she isn't entirely sure. But the important point is that we can read these writings in more than one way. I can admit, for instance, that Solanas was a violent schizophrenic. But I can also say just as easily that in her lucidity, or even her madness, existed a massive genius.

[nomorenomore08]

22. "They were more complex than that. We are more complex than that."

Well said. And I can certainly disagree with someone on certain points without dismissing them entirely. But apparently that's a little too complex for the extreme binary thinkers out there (and on DU).

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30. What we are ultimately confronting is a way of thinking and not just an "ideology..."

They exist on different wavelengths. Our wavelength is set for the application of critical and feminist theory. We are highly analytical. We have a propensity for doubting the status quo at every turn. We understand that the entire schema of life revolving around humanity has immense complexity and digs deeply into the natural prejudices of human beings and, more importantly, dominant groups.

It's a way of life. We have ours and they have theirs. And that is why it is so difficult to affect any change in their minds. Because, for them, agreeing with us on a fundamental level means doubting and, eventually, abandoning their entire way of life.

I had to go through this process in my late teens and it was insane and fraught with uncertainty and shame and fear. In a way, I'm still going through it because it will be a lifelong battle to fight off what I "learned" from society.

People aren't prepared to go through that. They just are not.

[nomorenomore08]

34. Very true. Individual progress tends to be just as difficult and haphazard as collective progress.

[Xipe Totec]

8. There are those on DU that claim you can't be a male and a feminist

Two balls and a dick means three strikes. You're out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125514945

[AAO]

36. Unfortunately for them, I have a dictionary.

A feminist is a person that is supportive of feminism. Not just women. Persons. Changing that definition is not going to happen. Period.

[Comrade Grumpy]

6. What is your point?

Anybody could compile a list of what they consider crazy feminist quotations if they wanted to, just as anybody could compile a list of those lists. Most of us have better things to do.

[nomorenomore08]

18. Pointing out the reactionary nature of anti-feminist insinuations.

Linking to Stormfront, of all sites, certainly helps prove his point.

[awoke_in_2003]

9. These wimps wouldn't have survived 5 minutes...

around either of my grandmas, mother, or wife.

[Shandris]

11. The Urban Dictionary is an anti-feminist site?

I guess you learn something new every day.

[nomorenomore08]

14. Not necessarily. But there's plenty of anti-feminist material there, if you look for it. n/t

[Shandris]

15. Oh I'm sure of that, make no mistake.

But if we're going to classify open-use sites as anti-feminist because people have the audacity to think mainstream feminism isn't something desirable (and a HUGE portion of the population doesn't, including women and celebrities), then we might as well simply list anti-feminist sites as 'any non-liberal website that allows people to post'. I mean by that metric, cracked.com -- often a good outlet for equality in treatment -- is an anti-feminist site because of people who post in the comments.

Like many things, it's the labelling that gets me. I know we as humans are prone to it but darn it, that's how we got so many problems in the first place.

[nomorenomore08]

19. I more or less agree with you. n/t

[NuclearDem]

13. Not letting this sink either.

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. Kickety.

[treestar]

20. Ever notice that to them, equality is anti-male?

Just proves they believe the male should be superior, period. Asking for equality changes that and is therefore anti-male.

[rrneck]

23. Why should we care what any of those assholes say about anything? nt

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24. When your debate partners are white supremacists, you should worry about your position.

[rrneck]

25. I'll keep that in mind. I guess.

Since I don't make a habit of lurking in places like that, I guess I'll have to take your word for it. I guess.

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26. I did a Google search for the context of the Dworkin quote...

And found amongst the top of the results that the list was circulating at various right-wing hate sites. I don't hang out at Storm Front.

[rrneck]

27. It's really pretty easy to find an extremist in any politial, social, or cultural movement.

It's just what people do. If you are a member of a group that denies that extremism is possible, that's pretty good sign you are one.

[itsrobert]

28. Please don't link to Stormfront

Please don't bring that racists site here and give them hits.

[G_j]

29. agreed

just delete the link, thank you!

[ismnotwasm]

31. Love the disingenuous comments on this thread-- they crack me up

But then then, I'm easily amused.

I could add to your list easily from DU itself.

[struggle4progress]

32. urp

There's sure a lot of vomit-inducing stuff out there

[Sissyk]

33. I can agree with you on

the fact that there are a bunch of anti-feminist websites out there.

But, you do realize by posting a link to stormfront, a White Supremacist Website started in support of David Duke, that you are trading one minority group for another minority group? Is that your point?

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Please delete the link to it.

[Agschmid]

35. +1