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Auggie

(31,188 posts)
Sat May 31, 2014, 11:21 AM May 2014

San Francisco woman breeds rats, releases them in public parks

San Francisco Chronicle / 5-31-14

KTVU’s David Stevenson reports that a troubled San Francisco woman has been “breeding” rats and letting them loose into the city for years.

Identified only as 43-year-old Erica J., the woman first came to the attention of the city in 2011 when Animal Care and Control discovered she had bred “hundreds” of rats out of her room at a Minna Street residential hotel in the South of Market neighborhood.

By the end of that May, public health officials had exterminated ”thousands” of rats from the surrounding area.

Later, KTVU reported, Animal Care and Control reported finding Erica living under a Japantown pedestrian bridge with rats living off of her cart. Not surprisingly, several of the rats had escaped and infested the nearby area.

LINK: http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2014/05/30/s-f-at-loss-over-rat-girls-rodent-hoarding-video/

Sounds as if officials are powerless to stop her given unless certrain laws can be enacted. This is a serious public health issue.

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pinto

(106,886 posts)
20. Plague - Diagnosis & Treatment (Centers for Disease Control)
Sat May 31, 2014, 04:20 PM
May 2014
http://www.cdc.gov/plague/diagnosis/index.html

Diagnosis & Treatment

Diagnosis

Plague is a plausible diagnosis for people who are sick and live in, or have recently traveled to, the western United States or any other plague-endemic area. The most common sign of bubonic plague is the rapid development of a swollen and painful lymph gland called a bubo. A known flea bite or the presence of a bubo may help a doctor to consider plague as a cause of the illness.

In many cases, particularly in septicemic and pneumonic plague, there are no obvious signs that indicate plague. Diagnosis is made by taking samples from the patient, especially blood or part of a swollen lymph gland, and submitting them for laboratory testing. Once plague has been identified as a possible cause of the illness, appropriate treatment should begin immediately.

Treatment

Plague is a very serious illness, but is treatable with commonly available antibiotics. The earlier a patient seeks medical care and receives treatment that is appropriate for plague, the better their chances are of a full recovery.

People in close contact with very sick pneumonic plague patients may be evaluated and possibly placed under observation. Preventive antibiotic therapy may also be given, depending on the type and timing of personal contact.

If you live or have recently traveled to the western U.S. or any other plague endemic area and have symptoms suggestive of plague, seek health care immediately.


 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
14. I think so, there was a small outbreak in NYC about 15 years ago...
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:45 PM
May 2014

And there were no fatalities and using a fancy name for it, so the people that had it mostly didn't know that is what it was.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
12. .
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:04 PM
May 2014
Identified only as 43-year-old Erica J., the woman first came to the attention of the city in 2011 when Animal Care and Control discovered she had bred “hundreds” of rats out of her room at a Minna Street residential hotel in the South of Market neighborhood.

Auggie

(31,188 posts)
13. Maybe there will be more public outcry this time
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:41 PM
May 2014

Rats have been in the news a lot lately. Construction of the Chinatown subway have dislodged many into city streets.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
7. Exactly.
Sat May 31, 2014, 11:47 AM
May 2014

With all of the abandoned commercial buildings all over the country that are sitting there in ruins from the big box stores putting them out of business, it looks like they could be converted into homes for people.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
5. I'm trying to find the right literary and psychological descriptions for a society that allows a
Sat May 31, 2014, 11:44 AM
May 2014

woman to live on the streets, with said woman then allowing hordes of rats to live on the same streets.

You know what I mean? Like there's a huge metaphor here that deserves a Kafka.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
17. The word you are searching for is civil rights.
Sat May 31, 2014, 01:17 PM
May 2014

Here's the problem....people cannot, under current law, be forced to be treated against their will for whatever condition they have that is a public problem
UNLESS
said person is an immediate danger to self and/or others.
And even the length of involuntary treatment is limited.
Animal hoarding has just recently become recognized as a mental health issue, but not to the degree that one can be treated involuntarily for it.

the whole issue of treating mentally ill or addicted people runs into a conflict of gov't control versus individual rights.

another point to consider: I worked in Mental Health for years, with the power to have people locked up for at least 72 hours for evaluation, so they could be seen by a psychiatrist and later by a judge.
One pen stroke and the cops would haul somebody off to a locked facility..boom, just like that.
No appeal, no questions, just my word, backed by the law that said I could.
Having that kind of power made me very uneasy, all the time.

Society could address this woman's problems.
What if we wrote a law that society could grab this woman, lock her up, force her to take medications for the rest of her life, keep her confined to prevent her from returning to her former life style?
And gave that power to people at the city/state level who had no problem at all with prolonged treatment by force?

















bobduca

(1,763 posts)
8. she needs medical help, not just public housing
Sat May 31, 2014, 11:51 AM
May 2014

I hope with her new found celebrity that Erica J. can be helped, but she needs serious help with addiction and mental illness.

I used to see this woman every day in SOMA. She's obviously very sick, and probably a meth addict. She needs treatment. She's a prime candidate for involuntary mental health care, but SF just doesn't do that.

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