Tagg "Trust Fund" Romney's brutal, scathing, ass-spankin', jaw-breakin' Tweet against the lib media

[Amerigo Vespucci]

F.U.T.R.

It's a fucking TV SHOW! Put on the big boy pants.

Tagg Romney Defends Grandpa on Twitter

Sunday night’s episode of Mad Men included a reference to George Romney in which Henry Francis, a political P.R. guy, doesn’t want his boss going to Michigan “because Romney’s a clown, and I don’t want him standing next to him.” That Romney, father of current presidential candidate Mitt, was governor of Michigan in 1966, the year in which the show’s current season takes place. Mitt’s son Tagg was not pleased with the shout-out, taking to Twitter to exclaim, “Seriously, lib media mocking my dead grandpa?” and clarify, “George Romney was as good a man I’ve ever known. Inspirational leader, worked for civil rights, promoted freedom. We need more like him.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/04/02/tagg-romney-defends-grandpa-on-twitter.html

[BumRushDaShow]

1. So Tagg

partakes of "lib media"? Is this his own guilty pleasure?

Am sure they are laughing all the way to the bank, being the media is owned by rethugs.

[pscot]

2. George Romney was a decent guy

By today's standards, he's probably qualified for sainthood. He got in trouble for admitting he believed the military's lies about the mess in Viet Nam.

[RZM]

3. Was George Romney regarded this way in his lifetime?

I don't know that much about him. Was he widely regarded as a 'clown' by insiders or anybody else? If that's the case, then I see nothing wrong with this. From what I know, he was fairly popular, at least in Michigan. But my knowledge here is quite limited.

But if he wasn't generally regarded this way, I do see it as a bit of a cheap shot. There's nothing wrong with going after Mitt or anybody else in the race on television. They are public figures and thus fair game. But it does seem a bit disingenuous to mischaracterize his father as a way to get at him, especially since much of the appeal of 'Mad Men' is centered around its attention to detail and accuracy in its depiction of life in the 1960s.

That is, of course, if that is what they did. If they have evidence that people thought of George this way, fine. But if they don't are are just trying to find a way to comment about the 2012 race in a show about the 1960s, this seems like kind of a dishonest way to do it.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

4. No one is "universally revered."

He was a public figure. When an individual opts for life as a public figure...whether it is fair or not...the first thing they learn is that everybody has an opinion.

A few moments ago, Andrea Mitchell interviewed Hillary Clinton, and reminded her of daughter Chelsea's recent remarks regarding Limbaugh's attack on Sandra Fluke ("He attacked you at 30. He attacked me at 13.&quot

That sucked too...trying to see if Tagg Tweeted his outrage over Ms. Fluke or Ms. Clinton. So far I'm coming up empty-handed.

Also, the fictional TV show "Mad Men" and the AMC Network are not the "lib media." Tagg may have an agenda, and he may be pissed off about what a fictional TV show had to say about his granddad, but dragging the "lib media" only exposes him as the sliver spoon dweeb that he actually is.

[RZM]

5. Of coure nobody is 'universally revered'

I never said he or anybody else was. Maybe there were people who regarded George Romney as a 'clown.' He was a politician so of course he had to have some enemies. But this smacks of trying to use him to get at Mitt. While shows (and books, for that matter) about the past should have some contemporary relevance, I see no need to shoehorn Mitt Romney into 'Mad Men.' But hey, you'd have to ask the writers what they meant by that. I can only speculate.

And the producers and writers that give all of these movies and TV shows are indeed often liberal. Hollywood's a pretty liberal place. I don't think that's much disputed.

[aquart]

8. So history is irrelevant?

Mad Men takes place in a very specific period of time. It's first episode had characters working on a political campaign.

Now me, I actually remember the political activism of that era and I took part in some of it.

You want a show from that time to IGNORE that time? Because it might be LIBERAL? Well, honey, plenty of us WERE liberal back then. And despite the blacklisting of the fifties, we still weren't ashamed to admit it.

BECAUSE BEING LIBERAL IS A GOOD THING.

[RZM]

10. What?

You're not really addressing what I was saying.

Yeah I know, there were liberals in the 1960s, some of whom post here . Some of them probably didn't much like George Romney either. It's possible that they just picked his name at random. But IMO, it's more likely that they chose him because he just happens to have a son who is running for president this year and will likely face Obama in the fall.

When you're referencing an historical figure in a period piece like this, usually you rely upon what consensus opinions were of that person, because that is the most accurate way to portray how they were seen at the time.

Let's say they make 'Mad Men: The Next Generation' in 25 years. And let's say they get pitched the 1980 Reagan presidential campaign. A character might say:

'Reagan? That lame actor and anti-Communist zealot? I don't know about him. Maybe he was ok for California, but president?'

That would be fairly accurate. I think that's how many people saw Reagan at the time.

But if they said:

'Reagan? Man, that guy is really smart, but he's not nearly anti-Communist enough for me.'

There were probably people out there who thought like that. But not a whole lot. Limiting your characterization of Reagan to that line would probably give the audience the wrong impression of how he was seen at the time.

And I'm not even arguing that's what they are doing here, I am only speculating. I wasn't alive in 1966 and I'm not an expert on George Romney. If he was widely seen as a 'clown,' then fine. The writers nailed it. But if he wasn't, they might be giving the wrong impression of how the man was viewed in 1966.

[LanternWaste]

21. Albert Schweitzer to Theodore Roosevelt to Pancho Villa doing the exact opposite of your admonition.

"When you're referencing an historical figure in a period piece like this, usually you rely upon what consensus opinions were of that person, because that is the most accurate way to portray how they were seen at the time...."

Odd that-- three seasons of Young Indiana Jones referencing and portraying historical figures from Albert Schweitzer to Theodore Roosevelt to Pancho Villa-- while doing so in a way which is the exact opposite of your admonition.

I guess Lucas is either part of the Vast Liberal Conspiracy or just a story teller (I'm going with the latter guess).

[RZM]

25. I'm not familiar with 'Young Indiana Jones'

So I can't quite tell what you're talking about. I remember that it existed, but that's about it.

I'm not saying it's some vast conspiracy. Just wondering why they did it, that's all.

BTW, Lucas is a solid Democrat, apparently:

http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/George_Lucas.php

[Amerigo Vespucci]

9. Well, if a librul Hollywood writer scripted a line that offended Tagg Romney...

...I'll have to consider it later, when I give a shit. It will probably be a while.

[RZM]

11. Nobody gives two shits about Tagg Romney

He's neither here nor there in this discussion, as far as I'm concerned. Yes I realize the OP was about his tweet, but for me, it more encouraged thought about the broader issue of the reference.

I don't care who the writers offend, I'm just wondering why they chose the reference, that's all.

Could be it's a mountain out of a molehill and they wanted a line there that dissed a politician and they picked Romney just because that name is in the news now.

[hughee99]

12. Limbaugh attacked Chelsea when she was 13, I don't think they had twitter back then. n/t

[Amerigo Vespucci]

17. I was speaking "figuratively," not "literally"

It will be interesting to see if Tagg's future Twitter fatwas center exclusively on the cross the Romney family must bear, or if he will reach out to other downtrodden public figures.

[bongbong]

7. Romney

You can find out more about what a clown Romney was by searching for "romney brainwashed vietnam" This happened in the 1960s

[EC]

18. Yes, he was considered a clown then.

The establishment made him look that way because he said he had been brain-washed into believing in the war. Of course he could have been just like Mitty here, where his views change with the polls since he was for the war before he was against it. The "brainwashing" remark was after the war lost favor and he wanted to appear anti-war and for civil rights in 1967.

But yes, he was for civil rights, that made the general public think he was crazy. That was the real way people actually reacted back then to people that were supportive of civil rights, so no, it wasn't a liberal slur, yes, it was demonstrative of those times. You'll also notice characters criticizing the black picketers outside too.

[RZM]

19. Thanks

Didn't know that.

Didn't watch the episode last night either. I'm still on season 1!

[Enrique]

23. I was thinking that too

I wonder if they were really saying something or just taking a cheap shot.

And I wonder, in the story, where is the criticism coming from, the left or the right? As I understand it, conservatives had the same kind of problems they have with Romney's Mormonism, and they also didn't like his Civil Rights stance.

[broiles]

24. I heard George Romney speak

at my college in 1968. I was impressed. He was about the only repub that has impressed me. I am severely liberal.

[aquart]

6. The Romneys used the same baby name book as the Palins?

[BumRushDaShow]

13. I thought their's were Tripp and Trig?

[aquart]

15. And you don't see a resemblance?

[Lucy Goosey]

14. Note to Tagg - it was fiction.

Mad Men is a (very good, in my opinion) work of ficiton. Henry Francis is a fictional character who works for Nelson Rockefeller, who was a rival of your grandfather's in the '64 and '68 Republican primaries. It's Francis's job, in this fictional version of 1966, to say bad things about Rocky's rivals. Perhaps you would be more comfortable watching Fox News's fictional version of 2012 than Matt Weiner's fictional 1966?

Seriously, grow up, Tagg, and quit whining.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

16. He's another Sarah Palin with a penis.

He thought he saw a window of opportunity for attacking the "lib media."

I give him bonus points for not calling it the "lamestream media" or saying "you betcha" at the end of his Tweet.

[MagickMuffin]

20. Their religion mocks the dead ALL the time with their posthumous baptism

Which would you consider more of a mockery, actual dead people being baptised by a religious sect; or a made for tv show that is fictional???

[slampoet]

22. I must have missed the part where Romney marched at Selma.