Gunman opens fire at East Oakland (CA) college, many shot, some fatally

[marmar]

from the SF Chronicle:


Several people were shot and apparently some were killed when a gunman opened fire inside a classroom at an East Oakland private university, authorities said.

The shooting happened at Oikos University at 7850 Edgewater Road about 10:40 a.m. Four bodies outside the school were covered by tarps, and rescue workers removed at least four bodies on stretchers.

Highland Hospital reported that it was treating four victims from the shooting. Students continued evacuating the building more than an hour after the shooting. ...............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/02/BABJ1NTM3Q.DTL

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Christian school

according to MSNBC.

Ah guns...we love some iron and the mythical old west. The real one had gun control laws.

[gratuitous]

4. Greek word oikos, generally meaning inhabited abode

In the Christian testament, often refers to the House of God, or temple. Not sure what this particular college might teach, and how it might run afoul of someone with a gun.

[malaise]

28. Was he

Standing his ground for Jebus?

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. I have no idea

Fyi California does not have SYG laws....

[Union Scribe]

31. What a stupid fucking post. nt

[msongs]

2. he must have felt threatened when someone accidentally looked at him too long nt

[Plucketeer]

3. This is sad.....

Yet ONE MORE instance where a poor innocent gun has been forced to do something it wasn't designed to.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. I know...there is a great toon on that.

[xchrom]

10. +2

[KG]

16. word.

[Chorophyll]

39. Indeed. nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

6. Meanwhile, federal agents were busy raiding another Oakland university.

Oaksterdam University was raided by DEA, US mashals, and IRS agents this morning. They were on the premises there when the shooting went down at Oikos.

They'll save us from weed, but not from gun violence.

[orwell]

8. That's because natural plants are evil liberal subversive elements...

...while guns are god-given.

[KG]

20. well said.

[pinboy3niner]

7. BREAKING, CNN: Suspect now in custody

Reported to be "Korean man in his 40s."

[KamaAina]

9. Probably someone associated with the school

which offers its website in Korean.

http://oikosuniversity.org/

Note that the website has a .org suffix rather than .edu, which leads me to believe it is a phony, unaccredited diploma/student visa mill.

[HangOnKids]

11. The school is not accredited according to the full story

The alleged shooter was a nursing student one of the wounded said. Apparently the dude was a bit off but nobody realized how much.

[southernyankeebelle]

12. Wonder how Fox News is going to play it? Somehow it will be a liberal god hating crazy. Watch

[bluestate10]

34. Republicans will claim.

That if one of the people walking around campus was packing the shooter would not have killed as many, if anyone at all. Typical republican BS.

[southernyankeebelle]

35. I wouldn't be surprised.

[Arugula Latte]

13. Carnage: That's what people in the United States Under Guns want and have chosen.

The gun humpers have the power and have bought the politicians, so we can only expect more of this. It's almost becoming a daily occurrence. Ho hum. Just hope next time it's not you or your family member.

[slackmaster]

14. You may not be aware of it, but California has some of the strictest gun control laws in the USA

[slackmaster]

19. Let me know when you have some evidence that the gun or guns used in this incident...

...were smuggled in from another state.

[slackmaster]

23. What kind of federal law would have with certainty prevented this incident?

TIA for your thoughtful answer.

[Plucketeer]

27. Of course, you're right

Cause if it weren't for guns, the perp would've used a bow 'n arrows, a sword or throwing stars. It's not the guns that facilitate multiple casualties - it's the looney bent on causing them.

[Riftaxe]

36. Why go inefficent?

let's assume that he lacked the high school chemistry skills to make rudimentary explosives.

Gasoline and chain/lock would be a much better killer if your looking for mass casualties in a class room.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. Second Possibility

Gun show loophole. We have them by the truckload!

[hack89]

32. No such thing.

you could shut down every gun show and there would still be millions of private sales. Where do you think guns are bought and sold the 29 or 30 days of the month there are no gun shows in town?

[KG]

18. quite so.

[Lizzie Poppet]

21. The facts disagree.

Violent crime (gun related and otherwise) has been on the decline for a good few years. There is no statistical evidence to indicate that multiple shooting incidents are not following that same trend of decline.

[fascisthunter]

25. you are right... we just keep reading about gun violence

[fascisthunter]

24. Praise be to Guns-zuh!

We need less restrictions, the obvious problem here!

[helloimustbegoing]

26. The Illuminati strikes again!

During Obama's reign, we have had all these domestic shootings and religious nutcases because that is done during Democrats' adminstrations. For instance, during Clinton we had Waco, Ruby Ridge, Columbine, Unibomber, Oklahoma City, a bunch of school shootings. The Repubes specialize in wars and fake terrorist attacks to justify war. The Dems want gun control and to make spiritual people look whack and Repubes want to CONtrol the rest of the world and justify MonSATAN, etc.

Problem. Reaction. Solution:

[Art_from_Ark]

40. Ruby Ridge occurred in August 1992, before Clinton was elected President

The Unabomber's activities spanned a period of 17 years, including 2 Republican and 2 Democratic administrations

[HiPointDem]

37. Oikos University: Private religious college. Pastor Korean, Chair of Board Korean, President Korean

School founded in 2004. I would bet to take advantage of new laws which allowed more private competition for federal higher-ed dollars and student loans.

Now why is this religious school run by Koreans?

My immediate knee-jerk thought is: The Rev. Moon.

Like that other recipient of federal education money, the guru Gulen, Moon has intelligence connections.

To what extent is the deregulation of education a scam to launder money and funnel federal dollars to shady actors?


"The school is affiliated with Praise God Korean Church in Oakland and Shepherd University of San Francisco, but little is known about either institution."

Shepherd U also founded in 2004. Doesn't seem to have a proper website, but seems to also be Korean-run:

7850 Edgewater Drive
% Jongin Kim
Oakland
California 94621

But they accept foreign students!! And you can get a student visa through them!!

Shepherd U has the same address as Praise God Church! And the same address as OIKOS U!!

Organization Name: Praise God Korean Church

Function, Activity: Christian

Assets: $0 Income: $0

Contact Info:

Rev Inho Choi
7850 Edgewater Dr
Oakland, CA 94621

Does this so-called "university" feel a little shady? Check it out with google maps.


Not real thrilled about a "university" (Oaksterdam U, in another story today) to teach people the cannibis business, either -- not if it gets federal education funding.

[Chorophyll]

38. Something like this happens once a week now.

And I for one am sick of it.

I'll just wait for the gun people to tell us how we can have all the guns we want and still keep this from happening. Go to it, gun people.