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DavidDvorkin

(19,475 posts)
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:45 PM Apr 2012

Scientists find evidence that human ancestors used fire one million years ago

An international team led by the University of Toronto and Hebrew University has identified the earliest known evidence of the use of fire by human ancestors. Microscopic traces of wood ash, alongside animal bones and stone tools, were found in a layer dated to one million years ago at the Wonderwerk Cave in South Africa.


http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-04/uot-sfe_1032812.php


So it wasn't the Neanderthals, after all.
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Scientists find evidence that human ancestors used fire one million years ago (Original Post) DavidDvorkin Apr 2012 OP
Fire to cook meat, cooked meat lasts longer, good for brain development snooper2 Apr 2012 #1
Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2012 #2
I've heard this kind of argument before RZM Apr 2012 #3
It seems only reasonable that some of our ancestors such as Homo Erectus would have used Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #5
Yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at RZM Apr 2012 #9
Well hominids were making tools for much longer than that. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #12
I can see them keeping fire anyway RZM Apr 2012 #19
but, but the earth is only 6,000 years old IcyPeas Apr 2012 #4
Oh, that God! gratuitous Apr 2012 #8
the devil has nothing better to do... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2012 #16
Someday they will prove my theory of sea travel as well.. Kalidurga Apr 2012 #6
Scandinavia is not Asia. dipsydoodle Apr 2012 #7
Yes I know this. Kalidurga Apr 2012 #13
That's a lot of nesias. randome Apr 2012 #15
Why do you say "it wasn't the Neanderthals, after all"? nt greyl Apr 2012 #10
I thought that they were credited with discovering fire. DavidDvorkin Apr 2012 #17
The Reich Wing has been pissy ever since. Fire is communist! TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #11
The three most important inventions wilt the stilt Apr 2012 #14
What about drugs and rock 'n' roll? DavidDvorkin Apr 2012 #18
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
1. Fire to cook meat, cooked meat lasts longer, good for brain development
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:48 PM
Apr 2012

Brain development gave us Intertubes

now we can make fun of Justin Bieber globally--



I thank my human ancestors

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
3. I've heard this kind of argument before
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:52 PM
Apr 2012

I think people have long speculated that some archaic species knew how to use fire. Being able to make fire is a different story.

It makes sense that a species could learn the benefits of fire long before they possessed ability to actually make it from scratch.

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
5. It seems only reasonable that some of our ancestors such as Homo Erectus would have used
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:57 PM
Apr 2012

"found" fires before they figured out how to make it own their own.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
9. Yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:06 PM
Apr 2012

Fires occur naturally all the time. So it makes sense that sooner or later they would have stumbled up the fact that they can use it.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
12. Well hominids were making tools for much longer than that.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:46 PM
Apr 2012

So why would they not figure out how to make and keep fires? The tool evidence is rather compelling and goes back at least 1.8my. I think it is likely that the use of fire will also get pushed further back. Using and making (or at least keeping) fire are not huge leaps.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
19. I can see them keeping fire anyway
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:18 PM
Apr 2012

Figuring out that throwing shit on it keeps it going until it rains. I think I've heard that before - that for a while they might have kept natural fires going 24/7 for as long as possible

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Oh, that God!
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:03 PM
Apr 2012

What a trickster. Making it look like something happened a million years ago (or a million billion brazillion), just to confuse those pagan scientists! Those egghead scientists are going to feel awful damn foolish when they meet Jesus riding on a T-Rex when they get up to Heaven only to be told they're going to h-e-double hockey sticks!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
16. the devil has nothing better to do...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 08:26 PM
Apr 2012

than to plant fossils and other such "evidence" to confuse our little minds

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
6. Someday they will prove my theory of sea travel as well..
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:59 PM
Apr 2012

I think that people came from Micronesia, Melanesia, and Polynesia, also the Southern East Coast of Africa, long before they have been given credit for. It would not surprise me if the Kennewick Man is from this area. Some would say he is possibly Ainu, but I am not so sure, I don't think it would have been as possible for the more northern Asians to make the trip to Washington State, but I would not be in total shock if they had.

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