The Narrative on Global Warming will Change Faster than "We've Always Been at War with East Asia"

[Junkdrawer]

The minute any tipping point is reached, the plans for Geo-Engineering will be revealed and all opposed will be labeled as "Weak Minded Liberals Who Hate Human Progress."

Yep, we'll be power hungry ones who want to take their NASCAR away and they will be the adults with the monopoly on Science.

Same as it ever was.

[Odin2005]

1. What's wrong with geo-Engineering?

Other than that it pisses off the "humans are evil" crowd?

[Junkdrawer]

2. I rest my case. n/t

[Eddie Haskell]

5. Insanity:

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein

Technology got us into this fix, technology can fix it.

[Odin2005]

10. Societal inertia got is into this mess, not technology.

[enough]

6. +1 (nt)

[Warren Stupidity]

3. well lets see

1) it will be a vast corrupt boondoggle
2) we really dont have a clue what we are doing or what the side effects are going to be
3) it is a solution for the 1% of the planet. The 99% can just go fucking die off.
4) it will increase the consolidation of political and economic power
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[Junkdrawer]

13. Right there with you....

Show us the data. What IS the plan?

[TheMadMonk]

14. Um, we're already doing it. Been doing it for tens of thousands of years.

The singular difference, is that we are finally aquiring enough knowledge to practice geo-engineering with some hope of a directed outcome.

[Warren Stupidity]

15. Eh? The track record for humans deploying first gen complex tech is fucking awful.

So this geo engineering tech will have unintended planetary wide consequences. But dream on.

[Johonny]

4. depends who gets to engineer

climate change IS geo-engineering. All guesses is it won't work out great for every country. The problems with geo-engineering is the fear that any plan will have winners and losers. Which organization gets to decide these winners and losers? The UN or say some private billionaire say Bill Gates. It is on the radar of those interested in geo-politics.

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. Large-scale attempts to push the environment in one direction usually have unforeseen consequences

like releasing non-indigenous organisms. Some of the geo-engineering 'options' have foreseeable consequences, such as trying to induce 'global dimming' with aerosols. This might keep the temperature down, but it won't help ocean acidification by the increasing carbon dioxide. The best solutions will involve stopping the production of carbon dioxide, not ameliorating some of the effects of it.

[Odin2005]

9. I see Geo-Engineering as a solution of last resort.

If, say, the US and China keeps pumping out CO2 like crazy other countries may have no other choice than getting together and do geo-engineering.

[IDemo]

8. If it were shown to reduce CO2 and/or temps

It would be used as an excuse to increase, or at least continue with carbon-intensive behaviors. Kind of a Jevon's Paradox variation.

[Junkdrawer]

11. Good Stuff.

Thanks for the link...

That's the thrust of my angst. All the time when behaviors could have changed and more sensible solutions were being suppressed, geo-engineering sat in the background as "the solution" for those who profit from the status quo.

We may or may not have reached a tipping point, yet. But let's bring geo-engineering from the shadows and debate it instead of keeping it as a secret solution which may or may not work.

[fascisthunter]

12. oh-ok